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post #1 of 36
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So, my son (younger son of 2, he's 6 years old and in first grade) had an incident at school the other day.

His teacher called me during the day to tell me that, while on the playground during recess, one of the other children at the school had tied my son to the soccer goal by his wrist with a zip tie. After speaking to the school and my son, this is what I gather happened.

I will preface this by adding that the school is in a transitional location right now. They moved from thier old location over the summer and are in transitional units while they build the new school. This is a small (150 kids K-8) private school.

The first and second grade class were at recess. They have a large grassy area to play in, but no real "playground" as they are still developing the plans for a playground. They do have a soccer field and this is where the kids were playing. There were 7-10 kids playing chase, according to my son. One of the girls in the second grade found a stack of zip ties. Evidently, a few days earlier, the athletic committee was fixing the soccer goals and these were the ties used to adhere the net to the goal. The person from the athletic committee left the extra ties on the ground near the goal. So, as part of the game, this particular girl put one of the zip ties around my son's wrist and then to the soccer goal. Fairly quickly, they realized that he was stuck and someone ran to get the teacher. They ended up having to call the maintenance person, who removed the zip tie with wire cutters. He was tied there for about 15 minutes.

So, when the teacher called me, she assured me he was OK physically, he had been a little upset when he couldn't get loose, but he was OK after etc. She also let me know that the principal was going to talk to the first and second grade classes about playground safety and that a letter was going home with the little girl letting her parents know what had happened. The maintenance person was also doing a sweep of the play area to make sure there were no more zip ties etc.

I felt OK with that response. DS seemed fine that evening, we laughed about it. No big deal.

So, yesterday, I got 5 (FIVE) calls or e-mails from other parents at the school wanting to know what happened. Several of them were seemingly appauled that I was not more concerned and that I was not furious at the little girl.

So, what are your thoughts? Did I underreact?
post #2 of 36
I don't think so. Your son is fine. The girl did not appear to be acting from a place of maliciousness. She just had never used a zip tie before. Why create victimization/bullying when there is none?
post #3 of 36
I don't think you under-reacted. The school was forthright about what happened and made a plan to address the situation so it would not happen again. Your son is OK, that's the most important thing.

I imagine the parents who called/emailed just wanted to get the full scoop. Why be furious at the little girl? I don't get it. You sound like the kind of mom I would want to be friends with.
post #4 of 36
I agree with PP. YOu didn't under-react, but the other parents probably received just enough information to make them concerned.


I can so totally imagine that something like this happened in my childhood, but I can't recall the specific incident.
post #5 of 36
I agree... sounds like she'd never used a zip tie before and didn't know it wouldn't come off. Even if she had, it sounds like this was all done in fun, as part of a game, with your son as a willing participant and not as a victim. Your son is fine, the kids learned... I think your response was entirely appropriate and mature.
post #6 of 36
I don't think you under reacted. I agree with the PP. The situation was handled, no kids were harmed. It was a bunch of 6 and 7 yr olds playing and didn't realize the zip ties would get them stuck . Your son wasn't hurt and the kids got help as soon as they realized he was stuck. The school addressed the situation with the kids and is checking the playground for safety. No harm done. I'm sure most of us have been through worse in our childhoods.
post #7 of 36
I think you reacted perfectly. If the girl had done it to be cruel, that's one thing. But to be curious about these things they found and incorporate it into their games? Not a big deal, ESPECIALLY since the other kids ran *immediately* to get help when they realized that he was stuck.
post #8 of 36
I think the only way you could have under reacted would be if the little girl knew the zip tie couldn't be undone without cutting it and if none of the kids went and got help and instead thought it was hilarious that he was stuck, leaving him til an adult noticed.

I have to assume the parents only know that 'a little girl tied up your son so he was stuck!!' and not 'they were all playing a game and she tied him with a zip tie she probably had no idea needed to be cut to be undone and the kids got help immediately when they realized the mistake.'

because if they know the latter and not just the former, then THEY are OVER reacting. Being furious at a little girl for an accident is thoroughly ridiculous, especially when she tried to fix it immediately.
post #9 of 36
Most kids that age don't know about zipties. As long as your son wasn't grabbed and tied against his will, I'd just chalk it up to a stupid mistake that won't happen again. Not every mishap in life is avoidable even when you are trying hard to avoid them. Better to just laugh a bit, remind your kid not to play with things he's unsure of and move on!
post #10 of 36
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Originally Posted by delphine View Post
So, yesterday, I got 5 (FIVE) calls or e-mails from other parents at the school wanting to know what happened. Several of them were seemingly appauled that I was not more concerned and that I was not furious at the little girl.

So, what are your thoughts? Did I underreact?
Nope. The girl did not tie him up to torture him, she made an innocent mistake, got help right away, and no one was hurt.
post #11 of 36
I think you reacted just fine. I could see my one of my own kids doing the same thing to a sibling. If the other kids had left him stuck there and made fun of him and refused to get help - well, then I'd ask the school what they intended to do to teach kids about bullying, but it sounds like it was a fun game that didn't quite go as planned.
post #12 of 36
I didnt read all the replies, but I want to address this issue coming from the other side; I was the child that did wrong, but never meant any harm.

I was probably 8 or 9, we were on a school bus being shuttled from the high school back to our elementary school for swim classes (the pool was at the highschool) I had a bottle of spritz hairspray in my bag. A bunch of us were screwing around, very playfully, and I ended up squirting one of the boys in the eyes. Lord, thinking back to it all now, I still cringe and wish I could take it all back. He ended up being ok, but DAMN if I wasnt lucky as sin that I didnt permenantly ruin his eyesight. His parents were FURIOUS and threathened my parents with a lawsuit. I was in agony, i felt so horrible. It was a dumb mistake, it all happened so fast. I never meant to hurt anyone.

So op, I think you did marvelous. And as the OTHER kid who is sorry, thank you for being so understanding that accidents happen in the weirdest circumstances.
post #13 of 36
Thread Starter 
Thanks to everyone for the replies. I thought the same thing you all did. this was not something done with malice, and, in fact, I could totally see my son doing the same thing.

One of the things I like about this school is that, because they are so small, the kids in all of the classes know each other and many of the families know each other also. The negative impact of that is that sometimes they are very much into everyone's business and there seems to be a good bit of gossip that goes around.

It actually reminded me of an incident last year with my older son. He tends to be wholly oblivious to personal space and was swinging his jacket around one day and hit another boy with it. He was immediately contrite, the boy was not hurt, and it was promptly dealt with by the school. However, I got an ugly phone call from the other mother who was horrified with my "bullying" child and wanted to know what kind of discipline we were using etc.

I remember how awful that made me feel, and I would never want to subject another parent to that.

Sometimes I just feel so out of the loop with parent politics...sigh.

Thanks again!
post #14 of 36
Wow, tell your kid not to play with the kids of the parents who called you. Talk about being over-reacting types.
post #15 of 36
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Originally Posted by whatsnextmom View Post
Most kids that age don't know about zipties.
: she probably thought your ds would either be able to get free pretty quickly, or that she'd be able to undo it from the outside.

I hope you've been making it clear to the busy bodies that it'd be utterly ridiculous to get enraged over this.
post #16 of 36
It sounds like your son cooperated in the zip tie experiment. In that case it seems like both he and the girl
Quickly learned a lesson about just how zip ties work.

My only concern would be the lack of supervision that allowed the incident to take place.
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post #17 of 36
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Originally Posted by pumpkin View Post
It sounds like your son cooperated in the zip tie experiment. In that case it seems like both he and the girl
Quickly learned a lesson about just how zip ties work.

My only concern would be the lack of supervision that allowed the incident to take place.
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Yes, we talked to ds about the potential dangers and I think he definitely learned his lesson. That was one of the reasons I thought parents calling me was so bizarre. I didn't see this as an instance where my son had no culpability.

I have thought about the supervision aspect of it, but, in this case, I think it happened very quickly and was not a result of a lack of supervision. They do tend to give the kids quite a bit of free reign when it comes to recess and that's actually something I like about the school. Now, if he had been left there for an extended amount of time and noone noticed, I would be truly concerned.
post #18 of 36
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Originally Posted by Barbie64g View Post
I didnt read all the replies, but I want to address this issue coming from the other side; I was the child that did wrong, but never meant any harm.

So op, I think you did marvelous. And as the OTHER kid who is sorry, thank you for being so understanding that accidents happen in the weirdest circumstances.
Thanks for sharing this story. As I mentioned in a previous post, we had a circumstance with my older son that was similar. It says a lot to me that you still so vividly remember that incident. I would hope that we, as parents, would be able to be understanding that children as still exploring how this world works and that, indeed, sometimes accidents are just that...accidental.
post #19 of 36
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Originally Posted by delphine View Post
Thanks for sharing this story. As I mentioned in a previous post, we had a circumstance with my older son that was similar. It says a lot to me that you still so vividly remember that incident. I would hope that we, as parents, would be able to be understanding that children as still exploring how this world works and that, indeed, sometimes accidents are just that...accidental.
I often wonder if the young man it happened to remembers it as vivdly as i do. I sure hope not.
post #20 of 36
I don't think so. I think everyone learned a valuable lesson about zipties and it wasn't a big deal other than taking from class time, which really isn't that important. Your son will probably look at it as an adventure soon. It sounds like it was a fun game and the kids didn't realize that zipties are hard to undo.
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