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post #41 of 43

12/20/10 at 7:21am

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Originally Posted by mitintraining

It has been my experience that once CPS investigates a claim, whether actual of fictitious the case is considered opened until proven it should be closed. That is the thing I do not like, that you are guilty until proven innocent. I also do not like the fact that the social worker gets to decide what is best for my children.

Yeah, and lack of evidence can be enough reason to close a case. Also case managers (I don't say Social Worker b/c most are NOT social workers....if they don't hold a BSW or MSW they are NOT a SW) don't get to decide. There is a whole team involved and the big decision maker is the Judge.

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Originally Posted by gossamerwindweb

OH! And I also wanted to say that I had an internet friend have her children taken away supposedly for bogus claims... that she had a UC. The truth was (and I didn't find out until much later) that her house was FILTHY.

Yup, that happens A LOT.

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Originally Posted by StrongBeliever

I *think* that is your child DOESN'T have a birth certificate, then CPS CAN'T take them. A birth certificate, as I understand it, is basically registering your child as a ward of the state, which would authorize the state to act in that child's behalf.

There are tons of undocumented kids in custody.

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Originally Posted by gossamerwindweb

CPS can take a child whether they have a birth certificate or not. However, I am now a foster mother, and I am learning that really, CPS is typically not malicious. Social workers really do want the best for the children. They work really hard to reunify them with their biological parents as well, even people who have had 7 children taken away... they still make sure they have supervised visitation, etc. So really, my viewpoint on CPS has changed a lot now that I am working with them. I am surprised sometimes at how hard they DO work to reunify, when personally, I think 'that drug using parent is a piece of crap, WHY would we try to get their kids back with them?' Anyhow, I know this won't make much difference with your fears. I had the same fears for years, and had a social worker friend tell me 'they really aren't trying to tear apart families', but it didn't matter. I do know that there are some bad social workers, just like there are some bad cops, some bad doctors, etc.

This is all true. Thanks for sharing your experience.

I agree that the judge is the decision maker, but the whole guilty until you can prove your innocence goes against not only logic but our U.S. judiciary. Sorry about the social worker label, I was speaking from experience that the social workers I have spoken to who work with CPS have the credentials, and are social workers. While I agree that yes you can prove that you are a good parent, but that should not be the way it works, especially when only 1/4 of the reports, at least in some states, are warranted. Lets not forget that there are many kids who need to be removed who slip through the cracks, the reporting system is not working, IMO. Also there are cases in which kids are taken away from parents for arbitrary reason, put into foster care and then abused! Even in best case scenarios where nothing bad happens after they are in custody, they still are going to be have emotional repercussions. I agree that in most situations of abuse of power with governmental agencies it is rare, it is still scary. I do not like that it is a judgment call based on a faulty reporting system, based again on someone's ideal about what is right for families. I think this system along with many other governmental systems need some work. But none of this is relevant to the original post. If it is legal to UC in your state than it should not be an issue, except it is. Just like it is legal to home school, they can still check you out for doing it. Same thing as signing a child out AMA from a hospital, they can check you out for that too. All in all it is pretty scary.

post #43 of 43

2/6/11 at 12:59pm