The Walking Dead - Page 3

[Megan73]

Originally Posted by queenjane 

I think on the one hand, yes they knew what herschel was feeling, but on the other hand....they also knew what had to be done, and they did it. Rick stepped forward as the true leader of the group and made the decision that had to be made. Hopefully that will show hershel that his way is not the solution, and he'll come around to the groups way of thinking. Personally, if i were Rick and Shane, i'd just take the farm. He could join us, or not, but thats the way it would be.

That's sort of the point of the show, YK? When civilization is gone do people have to stop being civilized? Rick is trying to preserve the morality of the time before; Shane argues it's survival of the fittest. If Hershel won't let them stay, I personally think they should move on and try to set up their own place. I'm not sure I see the point of survival if your kid has seen you kill a group of innocent people - and you'd have to or face reprisals - to steal their home. I disagree with Hershel's decision to keep the walkers in the barn but it's his place and his decision about what happens on his property to people who used to be his friends and family.

[queenjane]

I see what you're saying. In some ways i agree. But in a sense this is a war, and im not totally sure things like private property should be respected if your very life is at stake. The group are reasonable people, they arent violent(except for crazy shane), they have respected Hershel and his family, they can help, they can work the farm and protect his family. I'm not sure if i were Rick, i'd be willing to risk the lives of all these people including my PREGNANT wife who may not do so well on the road and my CHILD who has already nearly died, for some now-outdated view of ownership rights. I'm not saying they should execute hershel and his family...but i think Rick should be a little more forceful in his approach. Its kind of like...if some huge disaster happened and there was no food and your family is starving, and you knew your neighbor had food, and they werent even going to use it but they said no, you can't have any...they'd rather let fruit fall from the tree and rot on the ground than share...and your kids are starving?? I'm not saying i'd put a bullet in my neighbor's head, but i'd sure walk up to his tree and take the fruit and say "sorry dude, but if you want to stop me, try." Hershel doesnt (apparently) have a gun. So what defense does he have? Personally i find him to be kind of a distasteful character, sitting there reading his bible and about to put out the group while keeping zombies in the barn. Nice.

What does Hershel think is going to happen if the next group that wanders by isnt so reasonable? At least Rick's group is more than willing to let Hershel and his family live and work together with them.

[branditopolis]

That's the point though... comandeering Hershel's farm WOULD make them a violent people.  The story is about people trying to maintain their civility and the different ways people handle the stress of survival.  In Hershel's scenario, he takes care of his own.  Rick is more about a greater good and the good of all people.  Shane takes what he wants. 

I read the books and the show doesn't really follow them at all.  I really like it though, because all the things I was anticipating are different, but it's still the same story with the same basis... how people cope with the end of the world. 

The thing with Sophia never happened in the books so that was a total shocker.  Also, I don't remember Darryl being in the books, at all.  It's interesting because he's definitely one of the best characters on the show. 

[Megan73]

Just to clarify, I wasn't referring to property rights in the legal sense - I mean the violation of having someone commandeer your home without your consent.
I assume, though, that just to keep the plot moving they will have to leave the farm by the end of the season.
We'll see what the writers come up with! I can't wait for it to come back.