Originally Posted by Mommay
If he's reading well, then I don't think it's a tracking issue.
I'm learning how individual and specific disorders can be. I'm very certain though that the place my son goes to can test for the things your talking about. I remember ds taking a bunch of tests that had to do with interpreting images. We go to a University optometry center that is equipped with the latest technological advances, and insurance covers the eval and therapy. I highly recommend that route. I'm amazed how many ways that sight can malfunction and how accurately they can test for them.
Yes, I suspect if it is a learning issue (not sure it is yet), that is quite specific and not generalized. We live close to a major teaching hospital. I'll have to see if they do that sort of testing if it's an issue. I think I'm in "wait and see mode" right now.
Originally Posted by mrsfru
Yes, there are visual processing problems. A developmental opthalmologist AND an occupational therapist can both help with these issues. We had our son evaluated by a developmental opthalmologist, and it only cost us $50 for the eval! There is vision therapy available through these professionals.
The doc we saw has a small website, but I think there were helpful links on there: www.instituteforvision.com
Thanks for the link -- I've got it bookmarked now and will look into it more. Right now the testimonials they're talking about don't really sound like ds, so I'm back in "is it really a problem?" territory.
Originally Posted by LaurieG
NLD is tricky because it can manifest itself in so many ways. Many times kids do really well right up until about 3rd grade and then hit a wall where the visual processing required has gotten too complex, so you might not have to wait until high school to find out. The things you have mentioned sound very NLD-like to me but I think it is possible to have a visual processing disorder than doesn't meet criteria for NLD so maybe that is really what's going on. In any case, if you have the resources to have an OT do an eval it will likely give you the information to decide if it is something worth pursuing or not.
Ds was in OT for 2 years, and when he started he had significantly below average Visual-Motor Integration scores. When he exited, they were on target. Do you have a good list of NLD symptoms? I've been through several on-line and while he's got maybe one symptom per category, it's not a lot. He's good at verbal stuff, and he's got physical delays. He's a bit delayed in social skills, but from what I've seen, he's actually not out of the realm of his peers. It's hard to judge because he's verbal, tall and also among the youngest in his class. Does he 'look' worse than other kids because of that?
For example, from the website: http://www.nldontheweb.org/nldentrylevelreading/nldcharacteristics.html, I've highted the ones in red that apply, ones in orange that might or did but were resolved with OT. There just aren't enough of them to make me say NLD.
TRUE WISC Verbal IQ is often higher than the Performance IQ.
TRUE Strong to exceptional vocabulary and more than typical verbal expression.
NOT TRUE Strong to exceptional auditory rote memory skills.
NOT TRUE Excellent attention to detail, but not so for the big picture.
NOT TRUE The individual may be an early reader, OR may have early reading difficulties. NOT TRUE Common difficulty with reading comprehension beginning in the upper elementary grades, especially for novel material.
NOT TRUE Difficulties in math are common, especially in the areas of word problems and abstract applications.
NOT TRUE Concept formation and abstract reasoning may be significantly impaired.
NOT TRUE Significant difficulty generalizing information - e. g. applying learned information to new or novel situations.
NOT TRUE Generally they are auditory, unimodal learners (may not look or write while processing).
NOT TRUE Process at a very concrete level and interpret information quite literally.
MAYBE TRUE - "significant"? No. Some weakness, yes. Significant weakess processing nonverbal communication such as body language, facial expressions, or tone of voice.
NOT TRUE Unable to intuit what is not specifically stated.
NOT TRUE May present as uncooperative.
NOT TRUE Tremendous difficulty with fluid or difficult social interactions.
MAYBE TRUE - he's gullible. Lack "street smarts" - can be incredibly naive.
WAS TRUE -- is doing well in baseball, OK in soccer Appear to lack coordination - do better in individual rather than team sports.
TRUE Impaired fine motor skills - handwriting may be poor and/or laborious.
TRUE Significant problems with spatial perception are common.
WAS TRUE Difficulty learning to ride a bicycle, catch and/or kick a ball, hop and/or skip.
NOT TRUE (moderate, but resolving) Anxiety and/or depression may be quite severe, especially during adolescence.
NOT TRUE – opposite happening, he's getting less withdrawn and more social. Individuals tend to be withdrawn by middle school, and may actually become agoraphobic.
NOT TRUE Cannot readily adapt to new situations, or changes to routine.
NOT TRUE Self-esteem problems are common. Increased incidence of suicide within the NLD population.