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hitting me and not going to bed - help!!  

post #1 of 7
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A few issues: To start, my almost 3 year old daughter is sensetive in general, is pretty independent but also has spent a lot of time on mama from the beginning. Despite recent divorce and lots of financial stresses, she's pretty well put together. As a mom, i've usually got it pretty well together too (i think). The following issues are the ones where i loose it. And i can't believe i loose it. I haven't lost it with her before the past month and i have now yelled at her and been rough with her when moving her. i can't stand this and want to do it differently. Any suggestions for following issues?

OK. It's taken a long time to get her going to bed at a regular time. (also, she's a co-sleeper and day nurser - well nurses to sleep and upon waking and during the day). It's been even harder to get to night weaning. Anyway, sometimes she decides she's not tired and instead of just telling me that she starts hitting me. The more i try to hold the limit of "it's bedtime. If you're not sleepy, you may lay quietly, or play in bed quietly", the more she tries to hurt me. And, she thinks it's funny!!! Really pushes my buttons. When this happens, i've tried leaving the room - then she follows me and continues the behavior. I've even gone to the front yard 2 different times to try to calm down (just for 1 minute). This is normally when i loose it. I've also tried gently restraining her hands from hitting me (just for about 1 minute, and mostly she thinks it's funny too). I don't like doing that and i think it only gives her the message that trying to control others physically is acceptable. I now think i should just tell her that if she isn't tired she can tell me and we'll get up to quietly play until she's sleepy, but i'm worried that she'll want to do that every night and that i'm then not creating enouch structrue and routine around bedtime. I certainly don't want her bedtime problems getting worse and i also don't want to make her feel that she controls everything and is overly powerful, or controling the family.

Please give any suggestions possible. Also, part of the issue is that I need sleep. I'm a newly single, part time working, very dedicated attachement parenting mama. I've heard of sleeping and letting kids wander around in the house until they're sleepy, but 1) she'll usually hit me, stick her finger up my nose, pull my hair so that i can't sleep and "we can play together", and 2) if she did go on her own, especially when she's in this mischeivious mood, she may not safe in the house alone. She is able to get into everything - moving the chairs around and climbing on the counters to get whatever she wants. Etc. HELP please?

Oh, and normally, she's wonderful, fun, smart, funny, so so loving and kind. And also, do you all think that this behavior is normal for a child her age? It's seems pretty aggressive and worries me a bit.

Seacat
post #2 of 7
I have no advice, sorry, but wanted to chime in that my sensitive, sweet, loving , helpful 3.5 year old dd has been hitting. So I am looking to the answers you'll get too.
post #3 of 7
Does she nap? If so, maybe she's ready to cut back.

Do you have a regular bedtime routine? (dinner, quiet play, bath, bedtime story, lullabies, etc) If not, she may need one, and if so, it may need tweaking.

Could it be something in her diet? Food dyes or an allergen?

I'm one that looks for a cause before treating the symptoms... Can you tell?
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Yes, she usually naps about 2 hours from 1:30 to 3:30. Sometimes just an hour and occasionally no nap. I tried to let go of the nap a few weeks ago, thinking this might be part of the problem, but then at 1 she'd seem cranky and even ask for a nap, or we'd lay down to nurse and she'd fall asleep, so i figuered she just needed the nap. But, i'm not sure. Maybe i should cut it out. I don't know.

Yes, she does have a bedtime routine, but sometimes i skip brushing her teeth - if she's fussy - and we go right to pj's, read a story, tell a story and nurse to sleep. I guess it may be helpful to have a more structured evening time - like doing more or less the same thing each evening (i.e., dinner, play, a walk, teeth, bed, stories, nurse).

I don't see an obvious food connection, but i don't rule it out. I know she's like her papa and loves sugar. I didn't give her any sugar other then breastmilk her first year and now she has an occasional bite of chocholate (morsal) or ice cream (baby spoonful) or honey (1/8th of a teaspoon). But i try not to give those at night and it's not even daily, but i will look more closely for a pattern.

Thanks for the questions. Just responding the them got me thinking a little differently, but if you have any other ideas please let me know.
post #5 of 7
Seacat,

Sorry you are going through this. My son is only 21 months old, so my solution ideas are all just guess, for what that's worth.

I am wondering since this is new behavior if it could be connected to the divorce and the other stresses in your life. Could be how she is dealing with how she has internalized what has gone on. If so, I don't know what you would do about it other than talk about it with her. My son understands so much - I am sure your dd has an understanding that something is up.

Have you tried asking her what is she hitting you for? Or what she is feeling? Or even what does she need? All of our actions are to get some need we have met. I don't know what her need is, and certainly hitting isn't an effective way of getting it met, but maybe you could work through that with her.

When my son is doing something that is hurtful to me (emotionally or physically) I let him know how I am feeling and what my need is.... Jacob, I am feeling hurt/sad/scared because my need for safety/connection/security isn't being met. Then, I ask him what he is feeling and what he needs. He isn't very verbal yet, so I often have to guess and he will respond with a smile and nod when I get it right.

This approach helps me be more calm, because I truly want to meet his needs and at the same time let him know that I have needs to. Sometimes it is hard to acknowledge that there is a need underneath the ineffective behavior, especially at the end of a long day!

Hang in there. I hope things get better for you and you and your daughter can find some peace at the end of your days.

Christine
post #6 of 7
Thread Starter 
Thanks Sweetc

Well, i'm definately aware that she knows so much about what's going on with the divorce. She knows more or less all. I talk with her about it a lot and ask her her feelings about things often. I've asked what she wants when she hits me and she says it's just for me to get up, or to play. I think this is right. I mean, i believe that she wants me up and to play, however, i also believe that the hitting could be internalized anger regarding her papa leaving and me being less available at times.

Your aproach reminds me of a calmer way to interact, though, when i'm beginning to resent the lack of sleep, so thanks for the input.
post #7 of 7
Seacat,

I can certainly understand resentment coming from lack of sleep! I've been there!

Take care. You seem like a wonderful, caring momma.

Christine
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