Traditional Catholic Moms Advent/Christmas chat - Page 6

[PatienceAndLove]

Originally Posted by lavatea 

Thanks for the further info regarding the MagnifiKid. I will order a sample copy and see, but I bet I'm going to have P&L's problem with the interruptions for help. I bought My Little Missal and stopped taking it b/c of the interruptions I got. Maybe we should re-read through that and see if she can read it better now.

Def read-thru it together.  DD benefited a lot form a read-thru, and I was able to answer more questions for her without worrying I would be disrupting others.

You might start a new tradition of reading the Sunday readings together as a family before Mass, perhaps Saturday night?

When I was at Franciscan, we celebrated "Lord's Day" on Saturday evenings- it consisted of singing hymns/praise and worship songs, reading Sunday's readings, and then reflecting on the readings together.  It made Sundays even better for me, because I had already read the readings, and was able to listen and open my heart.
 

[PatienceAndLove]

Originally Posted by theboysmama 

I think I am going to request the sample copy of that magazine. It sounds great. Ds1 is an excellent reader at 8 yrs old and might enjoy something like that.

I think Magnifikid! would be great for your DS!

Like Magnificat, they have the prayers of the day, as well. 

[JMJ]

Originally Posted by theboysmama 

Dh met with a priest today. He meets him bi-weekly. I didn't ask how it went but he seems a little less angry. I think  is a positive thing that he didn't cancel his regular appt with the priest.

What a blessing that he has such a connection with your priest.  You must have an amazing priest if he can call it like it is and keep the trust of your husband when he's struggling so much with the Church.  God bless him!

[theboysmama]

he is actually a retired priest that is occasionally at another parish in town. About 6 months ago dh went in for a confession bcs he was in the area. He like the guy a lot and they started meeting bi-weekly. It has been really good for him and the priest is very non -jugmental. I am glad dh didn't cancel.I was concerned that he would with how upset he was. this at least gives him a connection to God and the church for now.

[AnnieA]

TBM, I've been thinking about you the last couple of days. I saw on your chart that you had gotten a BFP but I wasn't sure if you had announced it on here yet. I'm sorry that your DH is having such a tough time with this. I'm glad that he kept his meeting with the priest. With all the PAL issues that can arise, I hope the situation between you and DH resolves itself quickly so it will be one less thing on your mind.

Regarding whether it was an NFP issue or a condom failure, I think by looking at your chart that it was DTD on CD 21 that created this baby. Why did you discard the temp on CD 23? Sometimes babies are just meant to be here for whatever reason. The director of our NFP program at my parish conceived twin boys on a dry day. It just happens sometimes just like there are failures with artificial birth control.

[Trigger]

Originally Posted by theboysmama 

he is actually a retired priest that is occasionally at another parish in town. About 6 months ago dh went in for a confession bcs he was in the area. He like the guy a lot and they started meeting bi-weekly. It has been really good for him and the priest is very non -jugmental. I am glad dh didn't cancel.I was concerned that he would with how upset he was. this at least gives him a connection to God and the church for now.

That's awesome.
 

[theboysmama]

Annie- I forget I have chart stalkers, LOL.

I was wondering about the 21st but I had absoluetly no cm (i hadn't had any yet that cycle) the only possible sign that I was becoming fertile was my cervix felt a little softer (but I have a really hard time telling the firmness of my cervix so that isn't a reliable symptom) My cervix was full closed and I had no cm...

I threw out the temp on cd23 as it was really really hot in my bedroom and my temp was unusually high then back down the next day. I didn't move it until i clearly had a real temp shift and my temps stayed high. Did I do it wrong? I really thought I had this down, uggg.

Thanks everyone for all of your prayers. They are much needed and really appreciated.

[JMJ]

Nicole, I would agree with Annie that it was probably day 21, but it could have also been a condom failure on day 26 (peak day) or even day 28 since you don't technically have a phase III rule until day 29. The last dry day rule is the least effective of all the phase I rules and accounts for almost all of the method failure unplanned pregnancies in NFP. For anyone with a history of mucus patches lasting only a few days, I would recommend using a different phase I rule. Here are some options:

Clinical Experience Rules:

If you have a history of cycles as short as 21 days or less within the past year, or if you are in premenopause, the last day of Phase I is day 3.

... as short as 22 days, the last day of Phase I is day 4.

... 23-25 days, day 5.

... 26 days or longer, day 6.

Most conservative is to not assume that there is ever a phase I, but I would only recommend this for people with really short cycles or people who have very serious reasons to avoid pregnancy.

21/20 Day Rule:

With 6 months experience, shortest cycle minus 21 = last day of phase 1, IF DRY.

With 12 months experience, shortest cycle minus 20 = last day of phase 1, IF DRY.

Doering Rule:

With 6 months experience, earliest day of thermal shift minus 7 = last day of phase 1, IF DRY.

When I was CTA before my daughter, I used the Doering Rule a lot because I had a lot of long cycles with delayed ovulation. I had a very hard time telling from mucus when I was going to ovulate, often having 0 days of fertile mucus, and never more than a few days, so the Doering Rule helped me out a lot.

[frugalmama]

We're still on this thread, right? Just checking.

I don't know much about charts - I charted prior to DD but only for a few months and I wasn't CTA. I just started charting again to see why my cycles are all messed up {pretty sure it's thyroid acting up again} and has a puzzling question that might be TMI. I know the cervix changes after pregnancy, especially 1st pregnancy {DD was my 1st}, - should it be half hard and half soft all the time? I haven't been able to get into my doc to ask her and thought maybe someone here might know.

On a more on-topic question - what are everyones plans for Lent? I'm trying to find something educational type that I can work through a little at a time over Lent to help me understand more of the things I don't get as a convert. But I have no idea what books or anything would be good for this - any ideas?

[lavatea]

My mom got me a surprise subscription to Magnificat! So exciting to find that in my mailbox yesterday.

Um, here are three books my sponsor gave me last year when I was Confirmed. I'm just now working my way through the devotion one, and I love it.

Devotions
Sacramentals
Mass

I think for Lent I'm going to dip my toe in the head covering waters. I'm so scared, though...

[frugalmama]

Originally Posted by lavatea 

My mom got me a surprise subscription to Magnificat! So exciting to find that in my mailbox yesterday.

Um, here are three books my sponsor gave me last year when I was Confirmed. I'm just now working my way through the devotion one, and I love it.

Devotions
Sacramentals
Mass

I think for Lent I'm going to dip my toe in the head covering waters. I'm so scared, though...

Lavatea,

I just got Magnificat too - I've gotten sample issues before and it is great. I'm also going to head covering full time for Lent, so if you decide to cover for Lent you won't be the only one. I have two out of the three books you listed - Devotions and Sacramentals. Maybe I'll get the Mass one and work through it for Lent.

[PatienceAndLove]

New thread!