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post #41 of 82
Today's science lesson: if you accidentally drop a copper scrubbie into your sink disposall and turn it on, the drain pipes under your sink just might explode and flood your kitchen with water and bits of food.

So... be sure all copper scrubbies are accounted for prior to turning on your disposall...
post #42 of 82

elonwy, My little nudist kid would love that!  Feed wallabys?  Sign us up ;)  I hope that wherever you guys end up you enjoy!

Crystalyn that salad sounds awesome.  I cant wrap my mind around that much EVOO, but I never put as much oil as they call for in salads.  I love how it calls for liquifing the peppers.  Im totally going to make it.  Thanks for sharing.

And Boo for exploding pipes!  Holy moley!  Are they PVC pipes?  That just sounds like no fun at all.  Is your hubby handy?  Mine is not good with pipes, we'd have to call someone for sure.


geekgolightly,
That SUCKS.  What is an ED?  Would it be okay for you to be on medical leave, or just make other things in your life harder?  Im sorry you are going through this.  I hope your perinatologist will have some good tips for you.  Do you take fish oils or CoQ10?  My hubby is a super healthy guy but his BP is really effected by work stress.  He was borderline high where they wanted to talk about statins if it didnt go down.  He brought his BP down a crazy amount to low normal by just starting CoQ10 and fish oils.

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Im over the moon happy.  The girl I liked alot interviewed earlier and we LOVE her.  She is so sweet natured and interacted so well with DD.  She brought a whole portfolio of references, they were awesome.. and Ive called 2 so far that just gushed over her.  So So So excited.  She can hopefully be here to watch DD for the birth and she can also house sit our puppy when we are in HI.  Squee!!

post #43 of 82

Geekgolightly - it isn't a cure all, but my reference books say that omega-3's like those found in flax oil, evening primrose oil, borage oil etc can be helpful in reducing PIH.  I believe calcium & magnesium were important too, but I don't have my books handy to check dosages.

post #44 of 82

Hey wow, nutter and MamaChef thanks for the responses.

 

I already take the critical DHA and tums for calcium. I do not take extra mag, but it is in the prenatal. I can see how the right fish oils might raise HDL and lower LDL, but am surprised to hear it affects BP.

 

I say this in spite of the most recent large fish oil study... did you know they used margarine to "hide" the fish oils, and bread to spread it on for that fish oil study? Talk about the exact wrong thing to pair it with!! I think they did that three times a day and no surprises to anyone with an ounce of nutrition under their belt, the study failed. Also, the fish oils were not monitored and it was mostly omega6's with a small-ish amt of omega3's/ It appears that the study could not have been better designed to fail. i will try and find the link i read about it... http://www.webmd.com/heart-disease/news/20100830/adding-omega-3-to-margarine-doesnt-help-heart. That isn't the exact article I read but it does explain it.

 

ANYways!

 

I also am taking extra folic acid and extra vit D and take a baby aspirin a day as well. Trying really hard to do everything I can think of!

 

The ED is the emergency department.

 

Stopping work will make finances a bit harder. My husband has loans for his school, and we are living with his mom so that makes it a bit easier. We will qualify for food stamps and my DS and I will qualify for Medicaid, so all the bases are covered. By May my husband will hopefully have a nice paying job after graduation (please dear heavens!) and money issues will be no more.

 

But other than having to tighten our belts, we will be ok in terms of job loss. It does make me very nervous though, that this is happening so soon. I am especially worried after taking my BP at home and finding it to be that elevated. It's quickly going up. Two weeks ago at my appt with the midwife it was 117/70.

 

 

 

 

 

post #45 of 82

hey i found an NIH link for omega3's and BP.  very cool! i am going to up my intake based on this. thanks for the idea, ladies!

 

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8339414

 

post #46 of 82

Geekgolightly, it must be so frustrating to have a big jump in BP like that so quickly.  Did you maybe have stress over the holidays?  Family will do that.  Atleast to me ;)  Glad that it will work out if you have to take medical leave. 

 

 

One of my mentor midwives is who we got the idea for the fish oils and coq10 from.  She has a hypertension handout with a boatload of studies on the beneficial effects of high dose quality fish oils on BP, the higher the BP the more of a result if I remember correctly.  The link Critical DHA you posted, you need to take 5 or more of them daily to have any effect on BP.  The therapuetic doses are all atleast 3g.  Sucks, I know.  I do alot of technology related work the founder of a company called Metagenics so we use their high concentrate liquid now that hubby has gotten used to taking fish oil pills.. Its just cheaper and so much higher dosage.. http://www.metagenics.com/products/a-z-products-list/High-Concentrate-EPA-DHA-Liquid

ONE BIG CAVEAT TO EVERYONE TAKING HIGH DOSE FISH OILS.. STOP TAKING THEM AT 36 weeks.  There are studies linking fish oils to increased gestational lengths.  In a society where the clock is ticking, going 4-8 days longer can be a really big problem.  Plus, you dont need to grow that baby noggin too big ;)

All I have bookmarked is
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/478882_3

Hubby is a vegetarian so he really really didnt want to do fish oils.  We tried a low sodium diet, Flax, hemp and borage (flax in the am and then he did hemp for awhile and then borage when it ran out) with really little effect.  We also added a good potassium supplement and tried hawthorn berry at first too.  Then I finally talked him into fish oils and a digestive enzyme to stop the fish burps ..and coq10.  We also upped his D3 to 5000iui.. he stopped the diet, hawthorn berry and veggie oils but kept the potassium.. He had always taken cal mag, C and a b complex.  For him that was really helpful.  I know his upper number was in the high 140s, low 150s, and want to say his lower was 90-100.  It was really concerning for a 27 year old vegetarian.. LOL.  We woulda tried standing him on his head every night if we thought it might help.  I know everyone has things that work for them.  Maybe because he is a vegetarian the balance was off in a way that would be different then a nonvegetarian would be... or who knows.  

I really hope you find a way to lower yours.  Maybe it's dark chocolate!  http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/06/100628075746.htm

post #47 of 82

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post #48 of 82
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Ditto...

 

RE: fish oils, I get cod liver oil from seven seas.  It's a british company and they harvest cold water cod making sure to get the highest quality of the oils.  This stuff was highly recommended by a very trusted professional.

 

However, it sounds like you're doing what you can and no one supplement will turn things around in a week or two.

 

Having to sneak food or breaks sounds awful.  My greatest sympathies - your health is so important.  Hoping for the best for you.

post #49 of 82

I still haven't felt movement. The next appointment is the 17th (16 weeks) and I will be dopplering again if I don't feel it by then.

post #50 of 82

movement has slowed down a lot over here. i am freaking myself out over nothing.

i can feel the baby moving pretty low but it is more like pressure than anything else....no kicks or anything.

the baby was super active between 8-10:30 at night but last night pretty quiet...i even drove to the midwives to make them check the heartbeat this morning!! whistling.gif

they weren't open yet though :P 

i'll stop by there on my way to school maybe. hehe. 

post #51 of 82
Geekgolightly - hug.gif So sorry you're having to deal with all that. I hope things work out to where you can get more rest and hopefully get that bp down. That sounds like a long stressful work day even for someone not pregnant! I've read cucumbers are supposed to be good for lowering bp.

Crystalyn - Yikes! Were you able to get everything fixed? That sounds like quite a mess!

MamaChef - Yeah for finding a good babysitter!


I finally started feeling movement again after not feeling much at all over the last several days. I was starting to get kind of worried, because I'd been feeling slight flutters almost daily and then last week nothing much at all. I know from past pregnancies that feeling movement this early can be very sporadic, but it still plays tricks with your mind when it's absent.

Evergreen & Rylee - Hope you both get some good kicks soon!
post #52 of 82

Same story with the movement here.  I actually got the doppler out for the first time since 10 w the other day.  Baby was sooo active a couple weeks ago but the last week has been really sporadic, some days nothing.  Even if I drink a glass of cold cold orange juice.  The last few days Ive felt more thumps but nothing like before.  I didnt have this experience with DD.  Once I started feeling her I felt her every day till she was here so it is realy bugging me.  I know logically there is nothing that cane be done at this stage but trust and have faith.  Its just hard telling my head that.

 

On the subject of cucumbers!  ibusymom, you totally activated a craving.  http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/aaron-sanchez/agua-fresca-de-pepino-cold-cucumber-drink-recipe/index.html  Aqua Pepino!  I love that stuff.  I really like mixing half watermelon or cantalope, half cukes.  Its so good.  Im going to have to go see what state the cucumbers are in at the grocery store.  Ive already been wanting a big salad with yogurt ranch dressing, red red tomatoes and cukes.

post #53 of 82

I had my appt today. I am 17 weeks 1 day. I got blood drawn for my quad test and everything is going great. I've gained 2 pounds. All that Holiday food lol We are hopefully getting our u/s Dec 23rd and we will know what it is! She didn't know if the u/s tech was going to be working or not so I've got to call a week before to find out and if she's off we'll have to reschedule our appt for the week after Christmas. I still haven't felt anything in there. I thought I might have once or twice but it's my first so who knows. She said I should start to feel it within the next week or two.

post #54 of 82
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Same story with the movement here.  I actually got the doppler out for the first time since 10 w the other day.  Baby was sooo active a couple weeks ago but the last week has been really sporadic, some days nothing.  Even if I drink a glass of cold cold orange juice.  The last few days Ive felt more thumps but nothing like before.  I didnt have this experience with DD.  Once I started feeling her I felt her every day till she was here so it is realy bugging me.  I know logically there is nothing that cane be done at this stage but trust and have faith.  Its just hard telling my head that.

 

On the subject of cucumbers!  ibusymom, you totally activated a craving.  http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/aaron-sanchez/agua-fresca-de-pepino-cold-cucumber-drink-recipe/index.html  Aqua Pepino!  I love that stuff.  I really like mixing half watermelon or cantalope, half cukes.  Its so good.  Im going to have to go see what state the cucumbers are in at the grocery store.  Ive already been wanting a big salad with yogurt ranch dressing, red red tomatoes and cukes.


That's an interesting sounding drink. Sounds cool and refreshing. I like to eat cukes by themselves, cold and raw. Around here they've been very fresh tasting lately. I just ate a whole one after I had typed the previous post.orngbiggrin.gif
post #55 of 82

Same situation here with the sporadic movement.  It's been really quiet the last couple of days, then this morning I felt some bumps, but all is quiet now and probably will be for another good while.  It is nerve-wracking having it come and go like that!  I don't remember it being that way with DS2, but definitely was with DS1.  I am hoping that means there is another mellow baby in there :lol

post #56 of 82

well i stopped by and had them do a quick heartbeat scan for me and it is all going good :) took about half a minute to find the baby (hiding out quite low) but the heartbeat was a strong 150 and they said my bloodwork has all come in really good so thank god!

post #57 of 82
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Im going to ask this question again, because Im seriously not coming up with anything and it is driving me crazy.  Anyone want to share what they are getting their partners for Christmas?  My husband is uber hard to shop for and I just dont have the energy to ferret out something by spending hours and hours looking.  LOL.



This is our first baby and my husband has a real 'thing' against one strap bags, he calls them man purses. He's always carrying around his laptop and a camera with at least two lenses (we're photographers) and really loves backpacks, but is super picky on the styles. So I decided to make him a manly diaper bag package, which I think he'll like. I got him a gray professional looking back pack with laptop area and multiple pockets for camera stuff. Inside that I've put a Skip Hop Pronto changing pad kit http://www.skiphop.com/product/202000.html, a Skip Hop single bottle bag http://www.skiphop.com/product/222000.html and two baby toys that I think he will like. So this way he can use the bag until the baby is born, and be all pimp Dad afterwards too. :)

post #58 of 82

awesome, i really like that change mat :)

are you guys planning on formula feeding?

post #59 of 82

I'm anticipating it.  I had horrible issues with low supply with DD.  I won't get into all the nitty gritty details, but it was a really bad time.  I didn't have PPD, but my breastfeeding issues put me into a deep, deep, deep depression.  This time, I'm not willing to let it get to that point.  I won't sacrifice my relationship with my baby and my self-worth just to force something that doesn't work (for ME!).  Will I give BFing my all from the start?  Absolutely!  I *want* to breastfeed.  I wanted to breastfeed DD.  But, I can't let it consume me this time.  I'm doing what I can to prepare my body, but if my breasts won't make the milk... then, the baby has to eat, kwim? 

 

So, I'm sure we'll probably have to supplement and switch over completely rather soon.  I stopped nursing DD at 3 months, 3 weeks, and 4 days.  I am hopeful that I'll be able to breastfeed for much longer, but I understand that, biologically, BFing past the first couple months probably won't happen for us.

post #60 of 82

Reelgeek,

That's a great present.  He will love it!  If we didnt still have all our stuff from DD Id totally steal your idea.  Im hoping for DH to be able to do alot more feeding of this babe so I might look into one of those bottle keepers.

 

DD had a tongue tie and I had flat nipples so it took 3 weeks to get her to the breast.  It was so emotionally devastating to me so I can totally relate to you kmb9906.  I only got her to nurse from my breast with a sheild..We did 2 weeks with the nipple shield before we were finally able to breastfeed without any apparatus.  Every LeLeche league leader in an hour radius had given up on us.  It was one of the happiest days of my life when she took the nipple without the shield.  It was my 30th birthday and the best present I could have gotten after all we had been through.  After having the Cesarean, to have a baby cry every time she came to by breast because she couldnt get the food out was horrible, horrible, horrible. 

 

Because of the difficulties I didnt dare risk introing the bottle back until she was 6 months and by then she would have nothing to do with it.  She would only drink from the tap. :)  Even if I wasnt here for hours she wouldnt touch it.  She actually started eating solids the one time we tried it, sure that when she was really hungry she would take the bottle.  Hubby wanted to let me finish a 3 hour spa day so he mushed up some avocado and banana and she loved it.  He was smart enough to mix a little breastmilk in..

 

This time Im introducing a bottle at 1 month if we dont have any additional problems.  Im hoping we wont.  I can dx a tongue tie now myself and my nipples are definitely ok after 2 years of sucking.  What pissed me off is that I asked my midwife during my 3rd trimester if they were flat and she assured me they werent.  I knew they were.  Ugh.  I really dislike my old midwife's ignorance on so many things.

 

 

 

Sara, so glad you had a good appt!

 

Rylee, glad you got to hear the baby!

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