~*~ December Pagan Families Chat~*~ It's Yule/Midsummer!!!!! - Page 11

[Aeress]

Cari/Mamaofthree- I see posts, comments like that all the time. If someone says Merry Christmas to me I generally reply to them- Merry Christmas. I figure that if they say it, they probably celebrate it, so might as well wish them the thing they celebrate. At church, instead of saying "amen", I say blessed be. Our minister will also say blessed be, as well as amen.

Actually, I think I generally say- Merry Christmas since it is such a seculiar thing at times.

I am getting excited for Yule. The kids will get a small gift from me/Chris, which I still need to make. Better get to work on that. We are having soup/bread/salad and reading books and hopefully an evening walk by candlelight but weather will determine the last part. I might make ice candles, wich are basically a tea light place in water when it is partially frozen. If I make enough we will walk a spiral.

[redveg]

Morning all:) 

Merry Christmas, doesn't bother me.  Neither does happy Holidays.  I figure if someone is saying them to me they are just trying to be nice, spread some joy and hey I'll take it!  I will say that during the season  everyone says Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays to you assuming you celebrate it, but not one person has ever said Happy Hanukkah to me ever. 

I am so happy it's Friday.  I wish the kids were off of school for break already.

I hope everyone has a great weekend

[femme_rouge]

Super quick flyby.

Hola Mamas!  Getting ready my first kid-free weekend vacation with DP!  I'll probably sleep the whole time.   We're going to host a Soup and Solstice party when we get back.  It will be nice to fill our house with laughter and love.  Hopefully "Grumpusauras" (my nickname I use with the kids for my stressed out self) won't make an appearance during the party preparations.

Thinking of you all and sending love and light to those who'd like a little.

Aubergine~special thoughts of peace and light to you, Cole, his friends and family.  *Big breath* my DS is 5 in Feb.  I can't imagine...so I'll send love~~

[mamaofthree]

cari: i know right? i couldn't believe she asked me, i even said.. "are you sure" and she said yes. so i am gonna make some good sweet potatoes. lol and yeah on all the shopping and hanging with your gf. :) 

i am so looking forward to the end of this day. dd is off school for two weeks and dh is home for 9 days. :) he can get all his music stuff done by christmas and still have time to hang with us and we can do fun stuff together. :) happy happy! feeling the holiday happiness here today. (maybe it is all the sugar from the cookies! lol)

like i said i don't mind at all being told merry christmas, i just don't like people getting all bent out of shape if they hear happy holidays. and really i don't think the man christmas was named after would give a hoot, i think he would want people not in the stores complaining about not being told merry christmas, but out caring for the less fortunate. LOL stop sending me those blasted emails and go do something for someone else. LOL

i want some one to make me waffles. yum yum

oh and it is amazingly lovely here this morning. foggy, coolish and damp. you don't get that much here in AZ, so it is like a treat. :)

h

[_ktg_]

argh the new format is frustrating me wrt multi-quotes.  So in a nutshell - 

SweetSunshine - I'm in total agreement with Maia & Cari on this, no need for explaination until an explaination can be had about her behavior to dig in your personal life & realm! phht

Mof3 - I've heard these comments before, and typically just  but wow I just keep thinking how sad to not be respectful of others with their holidays (like hanukkah, ramadan/eid, solstice, kwanzaa etc)  which may happen during or around this season. I won't get ruffled about it if someone wishes me a Merry Christmas- as like redveg said - its about spreading the cheer!

FR - Have fun!! and hopefully sleep!!

Jade- This is my first solstice and trying to keep it simple, and around a theme in my mind - Sunshine & Snowflakes, and make some crafts around that (paper snowlflakes & paper suns and of course lots of glitter!)  We're going to have a yummy stew/soup for dinner and light 3 candles in honor of Goddess/God/Sun Child and if I can find some cool tales - read those to the kiddos for bed time.

Aubergine - The cruelty of that is making me especially since my oldest is almost 5. Cancer should not be a childhood disease and it breaks my heart - keeping Cole & his family in my thoughts and prayers this season.

[witchygrrl]

DH's health is not good. He's been coughing non-stop, and because of the kind of artwork he does, I feel that he's affected more in the lungs. So we're waiting on x-rays. Add this to the bacterial infection he had, and he's not a healthy man. That is getting better, but now the doctor says he felt a cyst down in his groin, so he has to go to a urologist to check it out. I'm freaked out. He says his body wisdom is telling him he's okay, that it's nothing, and that's great and all, but I'm still scared.

In other news, not only does this solstice have a full moon, but there is a lunar eclipse visible on the East Coast of the US between the 20/21. My best friend is having a baby soon (she was technically due the 16th), but babe is just hanging out. Her aunt just died last week, her grandmother went down to FL to see this aunt (her daughter) one last time and to clean out her place, and any signs of impending labor vanished for my friend. Her grandmother's not ready to come back either, and I really feel that if she did, my friend would go into labor quickly. On the other hand, he might just be waiting for Solstice to make his appearance, which would be appropriate, being the Birth of the Sun and all. So any labor vibes you could send to MA would be wonderful. 

[DaughterOfKali]

After the day I've had, I'm sorry that I just don't have the energy to reply to each person who has posted.

Had a 3 1/2 hour meeting today and I'm emotionally and physically exhausted.  I will talk more about the end of next week when plans should be more solidified.  

Hugs to all.

Wishing everyone a bright and happy Solstice.

[sweetsunshine85]

Thank you, mamas! I agree that my mother shouldn't have gone nosing around and shouldn't be dancing around the issue. If she wanted to know something, she could ask me. And I really wish she would, now that I know she knows. But she doesn't know that I know she knows, I don't think... Debating going over and confronting her about it tomorrow. But then again, I might just sleep in, then go do Christmas shopping. I am still exhausted and recovering from my fainting spell Sunday......

Good night for now! <3

[redveg]

Morning:)

Aubergine thinking about Cole and his family.  I can't even imagine how I would deal with an ill child.  Just thinking about it is enough to bring me to tears. 

I would like to go to the bookstore today.  I need to get out of the house.  It feels like the only time I go out is to grocery shop and it's really getting to me.  Maybe I can convince the DH to get up and go?? 

Have a great day:)

[Aeress]

Originally Posted by DaughterOfKali 

After the day I've had, I'm sorry that I just don't have the energy to reply to each person who has posted.

Had a 3 1/2 hour meeting today and I'm emotionally and physically exhausted.  I will talk more about the end of next week when plans should be more solidified.  

Hugs to all.

Wishing everyone a bright and happy Solstice.

DOK- try to do something for yourself!
 

Originally Posted by sweetsunshine85 

Thank you, mamas! I agree that my mother shouldn't have gone nosing around and shouldn't be dancing around the issue. If she wanted to know something, she could ask me. And I really wish she would, now that I know she knows. But she doesn't know that I know she knows, I don't think... Debating going over and confronting her about it tomorrow. But then again, I might just sleep in, then go do Christmas shopping. I am still exhausted and recovering from my fainting spell Sunday......

Good night for now! <3

Maybe a witchvox article about your beliefs would help? There used to be a pamphlet that was more a faq form, it really handled the questions about what we believe well.Fainting spell? Oh no, are you ok?

Cleaning and picking up today plus winters farmers market. Well, better get going.
 

[sweetsunshine85]

Yes, I fainted at the hospital Sunday night while visiting a friend to bring some light into here life. I wound up down in the ER for hours....And I apparently hit my head good and hard when I collapsed, so I've had a headache all week. Doc said to eat enough salt and stay hydrated, to keep my blood pressure up, especially if I'm going to be in a place or situation in which I am likely to faint. I'm ok, just takes a while to fully recover from it. Plus Sunday is when I returned from Solstice weekend and as my friend called it I was "chi drained"..

[_ktg_]

ugh - we went and got a tree today.  Went to a tree farm and cut it down, which was a first for us, but really I feel more connected about this tree since we selected her for our family.  Took the kiddos with us and everyone froze their tookus off. 

Got some hot cocoa and now we will get busy to trim the tree and finish decorating the house! 

Cheers!

[NewMoonMum]

Mamas! Love and light and huge hugs to all-not sure I can put all the replies I wanted to.

Aubergine-I will continue to pray for Cole. That is heartbreaking.

sunshine-really, i think esp. since you are feeling off from passing out (first time I fainted I hit my head on a piano on the way down!), do not even stress yourself by confronting her. Her actions don't deserve your stress atm, they were so low, and it's her problem.  Easy to say I do know since it's your mom!! Maybe too easy for me, since my family never really cared about anything any of us kids did. It was a non-issue...though to this day I don't know if my father really does not GET the concept of not being Christian, or if he refuses to acknowledge it.  I can't really get how you feel-except in knowing how it can hurt, feeling your own family misunderstands you so.Sorry hun, that's not right.

ktg-reminds me that we have a program around here to rent a live tree.  Year after year you can rent the same tree that's returned to the farm to keep growing...is that only a crazy LA thing? I LOVE the idea.

witchy-I'm so sorry about your stress over DH!! But that body sense is good stuff...I will keep you all in my thoughts.  Reminds me I really need to address my carpal tunnel from my own art!

if I don't post before then, everybody have a wonderful solstice!!

[aweynsayl]

hugs and vibes and happiness! 

we made snow globes yesterday, and pipe cleaner (they call them "chenille covered wire sticks" now, or something equally absurd) snowflakes to dip in borax. i know, i said i wasnt going to do snow crafts this year, but there's still no snow on the mountains, and i'm trying to manifest it, as we plan to spend yule there, and ds really wants snow. 

we decorated the tree this morning... not the night-time-eggnog-and-cookies leisurely decorating of my childhood, but better than nothing. and now it's upright and lit and fruited. ;-) (straight, drunk, and gay? i dunno, i'm in a VERY odd mood....) 

i'm sort of blue and stressed, but that might have a tiny bit to do with not having spent any time together as a family (other than an hour this morning) since thanksgiving. dh's schedule calms considerably after tomorrow, and boy am i going to be grateful! :-) 

loads of sewing to do! hope all are well and enjoying some blessed family time. savor it!

xoxoxoxoxoxox

[aweynsayl]

oh, right! more about the 12 moons. i saw that yesterday and tried to find something, but couldnt! can i say i am not in love with the new search function? if you search by user name, you can only get threads STARTED by the user. so.not.helpful.grrr. so i can NOT find the original posts about it, (though i read thru most of last year's dec thread, which didnt really help my mood, as boy was that not a fun time for me, ha! ohhh, the memories..... gah.) nor can i find the article it came from. i'll try and search some more-- maybe i saved the article on my hard drive, but that would have been my old computer. if not, maybe aubergine and i can put our heads together and try to reconstruct it? hon, do you remember at all? i'm fairly sure it was us two who were most into the concept... maybe saphire, too. gad, i miss her! hmmmm..... sorry. rambling. very strange mood here.......

luv you all loads!!!!!!

xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxox

:-)

[aweynsayl]

found it! this isnt the exact one, but the concept is the same!

[sweetsunshine85]

My mom and I had a chat on facebook this morning. It got ugly. Then my bff from the catholic community I grew up in started messaging me saying I had turned my back on my family, my friends, and everything I know. She is someone I never thought would turn on me. All I could say was that I had thought our friendship was based on more than religion...

[Maiasaura]

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Originally Posted by CariOfOz I think her idea of 'confronting' you is preposterous and rude... what on earth does she think that is going to do?   When she does bring the subject up, my suggestion would be to say Mom I've been pagan for a reasonably long time now... nothing has changed since then, I am still the same person you knew before.  If you trusted me and thought I was a good person before, there is no reason for you not to now!

Exactly! What Cari said! (great minds think alike )

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Originally Posted by mamaofthree ok i am getting sorta sick with the emails i get from loving but clueless family members (you know aunts, cousins etc) about how everyone should be OK with people saying merry christmas. now i have NO ISSUE what so ever with someone saying merry christmas to me, i do however have an issue with people getting all bent out of shape for someone saying happy holidays.

WHICH  btw, she asked ME to bring the sweet potatoes. how wild is that? and a couple pies. and she said she was sorry for being so moody. go figure. she is like jekyll and hyde sometimes.

Yeah, I get what you mean. I hate that. I don't mind people wishing me personally a Merry Christmas, but the in-yo-face "everybody should say 'Merry Christmas'" is just another dig from certain kinds of Christians who think that Christianity is/should be the only religion on Earth. That we're all wrong otherwise. It's very passive-aggressive, IMO. Well, sometimes not always so passive!

Your mom asked you to bring the sweet potatoes? Srsly??...........wow!

Originally Posted by femme_rouge Hopefully "Grumpusauras" (my nickname I use with the kids for my stressed out self) won't make an appearance during the party preparations.

Oh, I am SO stealing that.

Originally Posted by mamaofthree i am so looking forward to the end of this day. dd is off school for two weeks and dh is home for 9 days. :) he can get all his music stuff done by christmas and still have time to hang with us and we can do fun stuff together. :) happy happy! feeling the holiday happiness here today. (maybe it is all the sugar from the cookies! lol)

i want some one to make me waffles. yum yum

oh and it is amazingly lovely here this morning. foggy, coolish and damp. you don't get that much here in AZ, so it is like a treat. :)

You sound so up! What's up with that? Not that I mind, h, actually it's really nice to hear you sounding so positive. I'd love to make you waffles. I have a pancake-brown rice waffle from Vegetarian Times that is a-ma-zing. I bet you can find it online. You have to make the rice ahead (great for leftovers!) but YUM.

Originally Posted by aweynsayl and now it's upright and lit and fruited. ;-) (straight, drunk, and gay? i dunno, i'm in a VERY odd mood....)

Holy cow, aweyn, that had me cracking up right out loud. All by myself That's hilarious!

Originally Posted by sweetsunshine85 My mom and I had a chat on facebook this morning. It got ugly. Then my bff from the catholic community I grew up in started messaging me saying I had turned my back on my family, my friends, and everything I know. She is someone I never thought would turn on me. All I could say was that I had thought our friendship was based on more than religion...

Oh, Sunshine, ugh. I'm so sorry. Srsly, people get so wrapped up in other people's business...and IMO, religion is NOBODY'S business but the practitioner. Sheesh. Great answer, though, you. I hope your friend really takes that to heart.

So...M is totally not wanting anything to do with alcohol since being back on Lithium. He says the thought of it makes him want to hurl I said, then I strongly suggest you stay on this and find the money to do so, for-bloody-EVAH. Even so, I said honey I'm NOT trying to pester, really, but don't think you're cured of alcoholism. Meetings here and there might help But, he knows this and that is the last I have to say about it. I might ask him to take me to one or two while I'm there, though

AND AND AND......mamas!!! He said he got the bracelet engraved! WOOHOO! Today! For me!  Oh, mamas...Do you have ANY idea how much this means to me. Any idea. I am just over the moon happy. I can't wait to see him, I can't wait.

And he said he is going to put it on my wrist for me and ask me to go steady, again, one more time, just like he did (twice) in high school. Is that romantic or what? Only, this time, I'm not giving it back. I'm not taking it off, ever. I'm never leaving him. We are so, so together again, forever and ever and ever. Ye Gods, am I nauseating or what? We're so in love, though

Oh, I did get the Nintendo DSi for ds for Christmas. I found one on Ebay for....Hmm, I think I paid $135 or something, including a car charger. Yay! Now ds wants...I can hardly believe this...this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/100_Classic_Book_Collection My boy! My 9yo! Wants 100 books on a video game, how utterly cool is that. OH!!! AND!!! He got picked for some Duke University gifted-kid-reader-something-or-other. He scored 98 on his MAP reading test! That's I think like 98th percentile nationwide. Yikes.

[mamaofthree]

sweetsunshine: ((hug)) i am so sorry, what a way to enter this time of year. 

aweynsayl: hey check out this book: http://www.jenniferjstewart.com/book4.html it's "the twelve days of christmas in arizona" :) i was hoping to get a copy, the author was at changing hands in tempe, but we got there late and they are sold out! lol so i am going to see if someplace else might have a copy. 

what a mood i am in today. i am so tired of not sleeping well. and i have this awful cramp running across my belly, like the stitch you get in your side after a run. dh has been so sweet, did the dishes, and the laundry and made lunch. it will be nice having him home all week. 

i got all weepy because he is going to be gone all day tomorrow helping my dad lay flooring. my dad has helped us alot in the past, so he sorta has to, but still. and the whacky thing is my brother literally lives two blocks from their house and will not be over helping. if all three did it they would get done so quickly. i mean my dad has helped my brother alot too. (plus my bro, his wife and their dd lived with my folks for YEARS!) oh well. 

h

[mamaofthree]

maia: lol i have been in a moody spot lately. i think it is the end of pregnancy thing. not that i want to give birth right now, i am feeling like i want the couple weeks to just keep going... i am just tired and sore alot! plus, i have never been this pregnant this time of the year, it is so exhausting. and there is all this weird emotional stuff going on with my family. it just seems like alot all at once.

i will have to work on being in a better spot because i just don't like being/feeling this way. 

h