Delicious December 2010 Chat - Page 8

[tsfairy]

Originally Posted by tanyalynn 

My friend's baby is here!  You don't know her (well, you do tsfairy), I just wanted to share my happiness.  I haven't heard the details yet, she has very fast labors so I'll be interested to hear if the midwife made it in time (did with #1, didn't with #2, but 2 different cities for the older kids).  But yay! 

What's with the precipitous labors around here lately? She's the 3rd local mama I know that's had a really fast labor in the past month. All three planned HB, both of the first 2 wound up UC. Crazy!  I'm so happy for her though! I told DS and he was excited to hear that his friends have a new baby sister. :)

I mustered up the energy to take the kids to the mall today to blow off some steam. I was exhausted by the end. Something tells me I'm not getting enough sleep, and I know I'm totally slacking on nutritional support. 

I'm intrigued by the chia seeds. Was your post in this thread or elsewhere? 

[tanyalynn]

At least she knew that was likely the way it'd go, her previous two were the same.  But I didn't realize there was a local rash of them.  I wonder what causes it? 

[deditus]

Originally Posted by FireWithin 

I think I took 6 today and I am smiling.  I even laughed with the boys.  I noticed an up and down feeling though, so I need to spread them out more than I did today.

If it wasn't clear, I was referring to 5-htp.

Originally Posted by tsfairy 

I'm intrigued by the chia seeds. Was your post in this thread or elsewhere? 

Thanksgiving thread. You can use chia seeds as an egg replacer like flax goop but you have to use like half as much chia as flax. I haven't used it for doughy type things, but it sure works well for fillings & pudding type of stuff.
 

[lil_miss_understood]

Originally Posted by Theloose 

Originally Posted by FireWithin 

I think I took 6 today and I am smiling.  I even laughed with the boys.  I noticed an up and down feeling though, so I need to spread them out more than I did today.

is it the Mo or the 5htp?

welcome, Mimi :)

I'm attempting a loaf of bread.  And ignoring the evidence pointing towards a potato reaction.  Stupid reactions.  This is a bad idea, isn't it?

for the bread

I was craving sweets, so I ate a granola bar and some (commercial) vanilla yogourt.. and found them to be too sweet. Then I went and chowed down on leftover acorn squash from last night. Ah. Just right.

All I did today was sort the laundry (and of course deal with the LOs).

[Theloose]

There have been some fast labors around here, too. Not me My midwife was saying how the difference in length and painfulness of labors before and after the dot com bubble burst (remember I'm in Silicon Valley) was striking. She credited the difference in stress levels.

Bread turned out pretty good. I want to see what it does when it cools, and I wish I had a smaller loaf pan to bake it in so it can rise a bit more. I tried some even though I'm pretty sure that was a bad idea. I did remember to do some clay at the same time, though. I'm sick of reactions, is all I can say. But I'm sick of them to the point of not caring.

Since getting the tummy bug before thanksgiving, I've been blasting myself with vit A. The carlsons capsules from fish oil. There are a thousand other relevant variables too, but I swear my face is looking a bit different (less thyroid puffiness), and dd's ankles aren't turning in so much! Also, I'm getting GI reactions mostly now and I haven't been eating quite so much. I feel like the eating part is out of laziness and not wanting to prepare the food, but I bet there's a bit more to it than that. I wonder if it's the A, the gut reset, the b12, the glutathione, the drainage remedy, my imagination, or what. It *feels* like progress, even if it doesn't quite look it.

[lil_miss_understood]

Speaking of bread...

DS2's baking stuff came today. His mini loaf pan is TINY, about half what I expected it to be (incredibly cute) and the bowl is a little tiny prep bowl, which somewhat annoys me but you can't win them all right?

Going to bed.

[kjbrown92]

Originally Posted by chlobo 

Kathy,

Since you asked, prepare to be disgusted.  Shrews poop in the same spot all the time.  So the mouse poop was in a long line of "jimmies" as he called them.  All over the sills and stuff.  While the shrew poop was in "mounds" in certain places.  And those were only the places we could see.  I'm sure when they take down the insulation it will be quite disgusting.  But boy, was that estimate totally sobering.

I know the difference in mouse and chipmunk poop by size, up at the cottage, when cleaning the kitchen each spring. But I guess I've never encountered shrews.

 

Originally Posted by lil_miss_understood 

Considering Kathy's posts today elsewhere, I think the shrew poop description is mild.

I'm considering doing Christmas baking this year. I'm pondering making a huge batch of flax goop (the one which uses whole flax seeds but then discards the seeds, rather than ground flax) for those things in which I don't want the flax to be apparent (thinking white cakes or something?).

Really want to get a good sugar cookie recipe.

We had good sugar cookies the other day. I just did balls. Didn't experiment with rolling out. They probably would have needed more moisture for that. No flax, and no eggs in it. It was a recipe I got off here, probably in the recipe thread (which was may more convenient as its own link, rather than buried in resources). Jacqueline - you thought my cadaver skin comments were grosser than shrew poop? Really? Last night DH was like "oh, it looks much better. You can barely see the other stuff now". Yeah. It's a big hole. And my dad's girlfriend (yes, the one who buys my kids corn-filled bath soap and other inappropriate stuff, and who used to be a nurse but always seems clueless about medical stuff) said, oh that can't be cadaver skin. It's just your fatty tissue. Everyone has it. So then I had to explain to her that the point of a mastectomy is to take out all the tissue -- all the way up to the collarbone, and all the way down the ribcage, scraped all out. Everything they can find. What was left was my pectoral muscle which they cover up with the Alloderm (sanitized cadaver skin, in case anyone missed the FB discussion yesterday) to help hold the expander in place and then my skin on top of it. So he said that the Alloderm should hold, and so far it has, but I can still see it. And I am thinking of naming it. We keep referring them to the boobs formerly known as Prince, but then I'd have to think up some symbol to be what they are now, and that's too difficult. And to further the family along in the health dept, DH has a cyst in his testicle (he said I couldn't write about it on FB, he didn't say not on MDC - hee hee). I told him I didn't care how much it hurt, I still trumped him with a hole in my boob. So he's supposed to be on ibuprofin and ice and go back in two weeks. DS pulled some muscle in his leg (but the doctor is a flake, and I think it sounds more like shin splints), and DD1 got a new bracket on her braces so she wants soft foods for the next few days. DD2 is the only one doing really well (nothing broken, no food reactions, no lyme die-off). Knock on wood.
 

Originally Posted by lil_miss_understood 

Speaking of bread...

DS2's baking stuff came today. His mini loaf pan is TINY, about half what I expected it to be (incredibly cute) and the bowl is a little tiny prep bowl, which somewhat annoys me but you can't win them all right?

Going to bed.

Tupperware used to make a really cute baking set (I actually use the little one cup measure because it's the miniature of my batter bowl that I like of theirs) but it's probably the bad kind of plastic isn't it? Besides, after you see if they like them, then you can get bigger sizes if you need to.

 

[Lady Lilya]

Well, that settles it.  The poop that kept appearing in my car was mouse poop.  That was my original guess.

It all happened when DS fell asleep in the car.  I unbuckled him, left the door open, and went in the house.  A while later he woke up and came in the house.  I went out and closed the door.  I must have trapped a mouse inside.  For the next few days, I kept finding mouse poop on the floor, seats, even dashboard.  I vacuumed again and again.  I knew he couldn't live long in there without water in the summer heat.  So there is probably a raisin-like mouse corpses somewhere under the floor of the car.  

[kjbrown92]

Originally Posted by Lady Lilya 

Well, that settles it.  The poop that kept appearing in my car was mouse poop.  That was my original guess.

It all happened when DS fell asleep in the car.  I unbuckled him, left the door open, and went in the house.  A while later he woke up and came in the house.  I went out and closed the door.  I must have trapped a mouse inside.  For the next few days, I kept finding mouse poop on the floor, seats, even dashboard.  I vacuumed again and again.  I knew he couldn't live long in there without water in the summer heat.  So there is probably a raisin-like mouse corpses somewhere under the floor of the car.  

ewwwww. there's probably a way out. DH always finds a mousenest in the engine compartment of his truck in the spring because he doesn't use it much in the winter. Sometimes I've opened up the grill in the spring to find a mousenest inside. And last summer, I opened one of DD1's clothes drawers at the lake, and there was a mama mouse and  3 babies in there (and a lot of chewed up clothes).
 

[Sandrine]

we had a mouse probl in one of the houses that my parents and I lived in. Eeek it lived in the tile ceilings and would run across the ceiling at night and wake me up. My bedroom was downstairs. We used mouse trap for them. How I do not miss them at all. lol

If you had adrenal fatigue(which is what i am thinking is hitting me fast), would you still be working? Or just stay home and care for the kids and house(which is work too but different then getting paid)? I'm 27ish wks pg, have 3 dds and need to care for the house too. Plus my daycare kids.   I'm in a dilenma of what to do with my daycare. I am so tired and have no energy to give the best service to my daycare families but at the same time, I would miss them. You get rather attatch to the kids when they are here for a while. :( The after school kids aren't too bad as they aren't here for long. Give them a snack and time to play and they are fine. Having a f/t kid, you need to keep them busy with activities at least most of the morning and let them still have some free play.

TIA

[Lady Lilya]

I don't think it got out.  The length of time where poop was appearing was about as long as I expected it to live without water.

My parents have a summer house in the country.  They keep all the clothes and linens in plastic tupperware tubs.  They don't leave overwinter anything that mice might get into.  Every spring, we find the drawers full of nests and stored seeds.  

[True Blue]

We had rats outside and mice inside in Key West...that was awesome.  Oh and geckos in the ceilings.  Talk about poo...lol.  Oh and the palmetto bugs (giant southern cockroaches).  So we had poppyseed size bug poo, jimmies for mouse poo, something a bit bigger for geckos, plus the rats on the porch...it was gross.  I think we threw out almost everything we had stored out there, between the rats and mold.  Fun times.

Does anyone know how soon pregnancy can mess with your milk?  I'm sure I'm overanalyzing  but I feel like DD2 is sucking the crap out of me when she nurses.  It kinda hurts, like she's using her teeth.

[True Blue]

Originally Posted by Lady Lilya 

I don't think it got out.  The length of time where poop was appearing was about as long as I expected it to live without water.

My parents have a summer house in the country.  They keep all the clothes and linens in plastic tupperware tubs.  They don't leave overwinter anything that mice might get into.  Every spring, we find the drawers full of nests and stored seeds.  

I have found poor dried up treefrogs in my car here. :(  And in my house.  Poor little things, they are so darn cute.

[lil_miss_understood]

Sorry, Kathy, cadaver talk will always trump poo talk regardless of the source of said poo, in my books. And talk about gaping wounds will also trump poo talk.

A little pile of rodent poo vs a huge gaping wound filled with cadaver skin... yep. Definitely rather imagine the little pile of poo. The fact that you have a huge gaping wound filled with cadaver skin makes me very sad and I will listen if you need to talk about it any time, but it still totally gives me the heeby jeebies. The fact is, though, that I almost asked for pics along with the other person on your FB because I sometimes blow things (mental images) out of proportion in my head and the reality ends up being far less terrible when I actually see it... However, this is so not the topic I want to be proven wrong on! You can't UNsee things.
 

I hope the mouse is gone, Leigh (even if he is dead.. poor mousey). They have been known to eat the wiring in a vehicle.

[kjbrown92]

The hole is like the size of a pea. It's not like a gaping humongous wound. Okay 2 peas next to each other. And it just looks like yellowish stuff. It's just knowing that it's cadaver skin that's freaking me out. But my brother thinks that even if I have two different people's skin in my boobs now, that  I don't deserve two extra presents for Christmas. I hadn't thought that angle through. I think I'm going to name them and give them each an amazon wishlist. When it was all just talk from the plastic surgeon I was okay with it. Seeing it just grossed me the heck out Jacq. Believe me. I think that's why I was so freaked out yesterday. I was a mess. I mean, I know I only had 3 hours of sleep the night before, and I ended up getting my period last night, so that might be a part of it too, but I was crying on and off all day yesterday. Every time I drove. Every time I thought about a hold in my boob. It's just been a rough couple of days. But onward and upward. I get to drive a 40 minutes each way to the osteo today for DD2, including 3 highway changes. So far I've only driven in town with as few turns as possible because of the pain, so this will be interesting. I can't reach up to change my mirror, can't wear the shoulder belt (put it behind me), and am sooooo glad I don't have  a stick shift, since even doing things with the automatic level bothers me. But I'm better than yesterday and not wishing for painkillers. Got my Mg order yesterday and started taking that regularly again so that's probably helping (both my muscles and my mood). 

Oh, last night before I fell asleep I was watching a Christmas special on the food network, don't remember whose. But he used wonton wrappers (I know, they're wheat, but there's the tapioca papers that are round and rice papers that are round, and I'm figuring they can be used the same way). He wrapped them around the end of something - a rolling pin handle I think - and then using tongs, dipped them in oil and fried them to make his own small taco shells. And I was thinking that would be a fun experiment since I hate rolling the homemade tortillas. Haven't done it yet of course. But it's an idea I thought someone might else might want to try. 

[changingseasons]

Shouldn't have even opened my email this morning. I've already voluntarily removed myself from the group, and yet the discussion still seems to be an issue. A quote from one part of the discussion today, "This is not fair." "What if something happened and [my DD] died? How would that make [her DS] feel? That's just not fair to him." (I guess because for some reason he might feel he was responsible.) So because this topic might scare another child, we're not welcome to talk about food allergies openly (ftr- I wasn't planning on talking about death AT.ALL. I repeatedly stated that I wanted to be open about it so that it WASN'T scary or weird for people.) I guess that watching her actually have a reaction would be completely unfair to the other children too, and would be really selfish of us to want to expose other kids to that. sigh.

I don't know whether to start screaming obscenities, or bang my head on a wall, or just sit and cry all day. Probably going to choose option 3.


eta: Kathy. And I think it's an excellent idea for them each to have their own Amazon xmas wishlist.

[lil_miss_understood]

Originally Posted by kjbrown92 

The hole is like the size of a pea. It's not like a gaping humongous wound. Okay 2 peas next to each other. And it just looks like yellowish stuff. It's just knowing that it's cadaver skin that's freaking me out. But my brother thinks that even if I have two different people's skin in my boobs now, that  I don't deserve two extra presents for Christmas. I hadn't thought that angle through. I think I'm going to name them and give them each an amazon wishlist. When it was all just talk from the plastic surgeon I was okay with it. Seeing it just grossed me the heck out Jacq. Believe me. I think that's why I was so freaked out yesterday. I was a mess. I mean, I know I only had 3 hours of sleep the night before, and I ended up getting my period last night, so that might be a part of it too, but I was crying on and off all day yesterday. Every time I drove. Every time I thought about a hold in my boob. It's just been a rough couple of days. But onward and upward. I get to drive a 40 minutes each way to the osteo today for DD2, including 3 highway changes. So far I've only driven in town with as few turns as possible because of the pain, so this will be interesting. I can't reach up to change my mirror, can't wear the shoulder belt (put it behind me), and am sooooo glad I don't have  a stick shift, since even doing things with the automatic level bothers me. But I'm better than yesterday and not wishing for painkillers. Got my Mg order yesterday and started taking that regularly again so that's probably helping (both my muscles and my mood). 

Oh, last night before I fell asleep I was watching a Christmas special on the food network, don't remember whose. But he used wonton wrappers (I know, they're wheat, but there's the tapioca papers that are round and rice papers that are round, and I'm figuring they can be used the same way). He wrapped them around the end of something - a rolling pin handle I think - and then using tongs, dipped them in oil and fried them to make his own small taco shells. And I was thinking that would be a fun experiment since I hate rolling the homemade tortillas. Haven't done it yet of course. But it's an idea I thought someone might else might want to try. 

eta: And I'm totally glad to know that the incision areas are so small, not that it makes it any easier for you, and that's what was originally in my mind but then it got totally blown out of proportion in my mind and I'm sorry that prevented me from being more appropriately supportive.

Yeah, I totally get that. That's what has me on it too. Obviously not nearly as badly as you, though, and I'm sorry. You seemed to be dealing with it exceptionally well and I didn't realize how much it was freaking you out. I'm glad that your brother and others were able to lighten things up some (and hope that helped) because heaven knows I'm absolutely useless in that arena. I hope that your drive today goes better than you expect it to do.

Interesting about the taco shells... If I had a deep fryer, I might be tempted to attempt that.

CS

[chlobo]

So my SIL has these symptoms:

 My symptoms have been cyclical diarrhea/constipation, abdominal pain, nausea, bloating, fullness, hair loss, history of migraines, heart palpitations and fatigue.

 

Celiac or hypothyroid?

[kjbrown92]

Originally Posted by changingseasons 

Shouldn't have even opened my email this morning. I've already voluntarily removed myself from the group, and yet the discussion still seems to be an issue. A quote from one part of the discussion today, "This is not fair." "What if something happened and [my DD] died? How would that make [her DS] feel? That's just not fair to him." (I guess because for some reason he might feel he was responsible.) So because this topic might scare another child, we're not welcome to talk about food allergies openly (ftr- I wasn't planning on talking about death AT.ALL. I repeatedly stated that I wanted to be open about it so that it WASN'T scary or weird for people.) I guess that watching her actually have a reaction would be completely unfair to the other children too, and would be really selfish of us to want to expose other kids to that. sigh.

I don't know whether to start screaming obscenities, or bang my head on a wall, or just sit and cry all day. Probably going to choose option 3.


eta: Kathy. And I think it's an excellent idea for them each to have their own Amazon xmas wishlist.

Don't open any more emails from that group. Just totally not right. I mean, say my kid is allergic to bees. Wouldn't it be nice to say hey everybody, my child is allergic to bees. And if she gets stung, I have to give her some medicine, so can you help me be on the look out for bees? And then someone sees a bee, and they don't tell you and a bee stings your child. That child, at that age, will not have the guilt that he/she caused it unless an adult tells them they should have said something and causes that guilt. Children that age don't think that way. They cannot protect their child from everyone who might be different from their child. And they can't protect them from seeing someone get hurt. At some point in their life that child is going to cause someone else pain, and yes they'll feel guilty about it (don't you feel guilty when you accidently trip over someone's foot and hurt them?) and sure, someone might even die at some point, and maybe it will be their fault (you know, they're an architect and a building falls down or something). I know we want to protect our children from everything but it's just sooooo wrong to say that because a child is different, they shouldn't be around other children who don't have the same problem. So unfair. I'm just so irritated I'm probably not even saying it right. But I keep thinking back to Buster on Arthur, who has asthma, and finally explains to all his friends what asthma is and how it isn't catching, and why he needs medicine, and everyone is so accepting of it. And I thought it was a great program to explain that kind of thing. I'm irked for you. I cried off and on all day yesterday. It must be your turn today Jess. I'm so sorry. I hope you meet a new group of parents soon who are a better fit.

[kjbrown92]

Originally Posted by chlobo 

So my SIL has these symptoms:

 My symptoms have been cyclical diarrhea/constipation, abdominal pain, nausea, bloating, fullness, hair loss, history of migraines, heart palpitations and fatigue.

 

Celiac or hypothyroid?

 Could be hypothyroid and a food intolerance. Not necessarily celiac (or even gluten). Could be any food(s). Has she tried keeping a detailed food diary (down to ingredient level) to see if she can pinpoint a food or foods? But while she's still consuming gluten, it's not hard to test for celiac.