or Connect
Mothering › Mothering Forums › Mom › Women's Health  › Allergies › Delicious December 2010 Chat
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Delicious December 2010 Chat - Page 3

post #41 of 770

I've been keeping up with reading, and there was a lot I wanted to quote from last month's chat, but can't ;-); I will try to remember what I wanted to say (kinda hard when working through a haze of a week long headache...but at least I've been keeping up with making meals, and keeping the kitchen and house relatively clean!)

 

Tanya - I am so like you with not wanting to visit the inlaws that I might not go visit back East this summer (except for my 25th HS reunion).  My MIL so poisoned our relationship this past summer (mostly her lack of respect in regards to our food restrictions), I have no real interest in dealing/communicating with her.  Lucky? for me, there really isn't anyone  that we can stay with anyways (BIL moved in with MIL/FIL while he is going through divorce, then BIL bought MIL/FIL's house, but they still live there until their retirement home is built - this is the house we usually stay).

 

FireWithin, Jane, et al. - About spouses supporting us, especially with dealing with/healing LO's - my DH is supportive (but doesn't get into the nitty gritty details of the what, why and how), and he supports me getting a break, but it doesn't really mean much when he travels so much.  I have been at a place health-wise the last month or so (and particularly this past week) that I haven't been in a LOOOONNNGGG time, and it's just so depressing.  DH been gone since Sunday afternoon, and we won't see him until late tomorrow morning - these long weeks are killer for me, and to top it off, I haven't been able to get myself to bed early - keep catching a second wind.  But then waking up at 6 am is so hard.  And don't get me started on the hard-to-get-to-sleep (bed and naptime) bandwagon we've been on this week +, so napping hasn't been an option.  And I can't blame the difficult sleep times to adding mag, mo and b6 to their juice (I don't think) because it all started before I started supping them with these.

 

But when DH is here, he works from home, so I have a tag team member - and he also tends to be the in-the-present, loving, playful parent that I forget to be.  So I need to be appreciative for what I do have in this respect.  Jane, I'm sorry you don't have that with your ex.  But good luck finishing your move!

 

About the Vitamin D "news" from the "experts":  I tell ya, if mainstream medicine keeps it up, I may just have NO respect for anything they say or report as "research".  What I do know is that after getting my test results of 15!, over a year ago, I started supping 10,000 IU's/day, and a week later I started feeling a ton better!  And FWIW, both of my sisters have tested low (one about the same time as me, the other one only this week, and her doc only tested her because she asked)  Not sure what that says about my genetics.  I also wonder about why I still have my gallbladder and both of my sister have had theirs removed (years ago).  My oldest sister's TSH is finally out of range (not by lab's range tho'), and frankly I wouldn't be suprised if my other sister (older) will be joining us in hypothyroid land sometime soon (and probably is already there by symptoms).  Again, what does that say about my genetics?

 

CS - Hugs.  I cannot even imagine what you are going through.  I hope that the information you have now helps you find a healing path for your DD.

 

About naming kids: it's lucky that my first child was a girl.  Because she still wouldn't have a name, as DH and I COULD NOT come to an agreement about a boys name.  He wanted to name a boy after his father, and I absolutely did not want to.  DH's surname is a common and somewhat  generic, and his father's first name is common too, so I was adamant not to give the kid a common and generic name.  But with my second, who is a boy, the pressure was off, as his brother and soon to be ex wife had a boy 3 months before us, and used his father's first name.  And coming up with a boys name after that was relatively easy, and I got the name I wanted (and was a family name on both sides of the family - Owen).

 

Sorry there is so much illness/reactions/lack o' sleep going around.  Not the best time of year for it!

post #42 of 770

Checking in. I actually stayed in bed until 11am this morning, and awoke stiff, but not really that sore. Feel  much better overall. DH is sick of my mother so he's sending her home tomorrow morning. I told him he'd have to pick up the slack because I still haven't been cleared for housework like vacuuming (lucky for me). So my mother is making batches of sweet potato scones to freeze, and cutting up all sorts of veggies so I don't have to do that kind of stuff. And she's been ironing and all that stuff I hate. It'll be nice to have my "reign" back but I like being able to sleep in too. I took a percocet last night since at the hospital they weren't sure which drug I was reacting to, and no rash, so I must have been allergic just to the Keflex. Which is sort of good. At least I didn't react to 2 different drugs at the same time. But now being allergic to 4 different abx seems bad. Like what if I get some bad bug that needs one of those abx. Oh well. Made the Betty Crocker gluten free cupcakes last night because DD2 was having a pizza party and cake day today at school. It doesn't list any soy ingredients but in bold letters right under the ingredients it says "MAY CONTAN SOY INGREDIENTS". No reaction and she had one last night. So I'm wondering if it didn't have any soy or if she's not reacting to soy. I'd really like her to get a big one back and I'm ready to trial her on soy over Christmas break. I'm done shopping and wrapping. But there's not a single decoration up. That involves crawling under eaves which I am not going to do at this time. DD2 is ready to decorate. She's all wrapped up in Christmas this year. She's written 4 different letters to Santa already. And they all start with "a big bouncy ball". At least she's easy.

post #43 of 770
Soooo sleepy. sleeping.gif (didn't there used to be a yawn smilie?) I just cannot get this kid back to normal since the procedure. greensad.gif She's itchy, weird digestion, and she has been sleepy HORRIBLY. Last night, she woke up screaming that her leg hurt, so we gave her some arnica and rubbed some arnica gel on her ankle where she said it hurt, but she was tossing and turning (on top of me) and whining/crying ALL.NIGHT. And this morning, I asked her if she had an owie on her leg, and she had no clue what I was talking about. sigh.

Now I have to get ready to go to the free admission day at the orchestra kids museum thing.... so I'll be surrounded by a bunch of toddlers banging on drums, gongs, xylophones, you name it. Yay me. And tonight is free admission to another kids museum, and they only do it once a month.. so we have to go to that too. Did I mention I'm tired? blaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah.

eta: Kathy, I am SOOOO glad to hear that you're feeling better today. Now just don't follow my example and totally overdo it, thinking that you're all better now. orngtongue.gif
post #44 of 770
Thread Starter 

Interesting article on choline and SNPs that affect how much we need and choline and methylation and all sorts of interesting stuff.  Not sure what to do with it yet, but so far it's interesting reading. 

 

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2782876/

post #45 of 770

Kathy,

 

Tell me more about the sweet potato scones.

 

I'm glad you are feeling better but don't overdo it.

 

CS - sucks about the reactions that keep going.  I hope things settle down soon.

 

DSs adenoids are the size of baseballs.  Sucks.

post #46 of 770

:eyes

just checking in.

soo tired

post #47 of 770

Mmmmmmmmmmmm, I just scarfed down a Redwood Hill brand goat milk yogurt - it was really good. Wonder if I'll react...I haven't noticed anything the last few times I've tried dairy (except lactose intolerance now).

post #48 of 770
Quote:
Originally Posted by lil_miss_understood View Post

:eyes


You've just proven that it is contagious!

post #49 of 770
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady Lilya View Post



Quote:
Originally Posted by lil_miss_understood View Post

:eyes


You've just proven that it is contagious!


was gonna use the yawning smiley, but as Cs aptly pointed out, it has disappeared.

post #50 of 770

My Grandma died yesterday.  We were really close.  I feel surprisingly OK with it.  

 

I thought I would be more angry, since I was very much against the course that her medical care was taking, and felt like they were killing her.  But I guess now I just feel glad that they killed her so fast.  Up until 2 months ago, she felt great.  93.5 years of feeling great, and 0.2 years of feeling crappy.  Not a bad record.  

post #51 of 770
Quote:
Originally Posted by tanyalynn View Post

Interesting article on choline and SNPs that affect how much we need and choline and methylation and all sorts of interesting stuff.  Not sure what to do with it yet, but so far it's interesting reading. 

 

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2782876/



http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2430110/

 

Looks like another folate thing, that if you're not good at processing/using folate, you lean on choline more.  From the refs in your article:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2430110/

"Premenopausal women who were carriers of the very common 5,10-methylenetetrahydrofolate dehydrogenase-1958A (MTHFD1; rs2236225) gene allele were more than 15 times as likely as non-carriers to develop signs of choline deficiency (P < 0.0001) on the low-choline diet. Sixty-three percent of our study population had at least one allele for this SNP."  Then there are a handful more, about half of which are on my 23andme. 

 

Fun stuff, cool article!

post #52 of 770

:hug Leigh

Sorry for your loss.

post #53 of 770

food sources of choline include: soybeans and soybean products, egg yolk (the word "lecithin," comes from the Greek word lekithos meaning "egg yolk"), butter, peanuts and peanut butter, potatoes, cauliflower, tomatoes, banana, milk, oranges, lentils, oats, barley, corn, sesame seeds, flax seeds, and whole wheat bread.

 

http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=nutrient&dbid=50

 

 

Pat

post #54 of 770
Thread Starter 

Pat!  You forgot the liver!  winky.gif  (the week got crazy, I haven't made the chicken liver pate recipe yet--maybe tomorrow?  Probably Sunday).

 

hug2.gif  Leigh, I'm sorry for your loss. 

 

Shannon, I was wondering if mthfr was one of the SNPs they were referencing, I've skimmed a lot of the article but haven't gotten all the details.  My mom was diagnosed with fatty liver, I'm not certain that there's any mthfr variants in my family at all, but we clearly have methylation issues, and I'm guessing that methylation stress is what's causing it for her, when mostly she doesn't consume different amounts of choline than anyone else.  But it makes a good argument for regular egg and/or liver consumption. 

 

hug.gif  Chlobo, I wish one of the more common causes was the answer for your son's adenoids.  Well, I guess it's maybe a similar cause, but just much, much harder to fix than for most people. 

 

I haven't opened my 23andme box, the kids both napped today (even DD, she's 7!) so clearly we are feeling off.  So it doesn't seem like a good day to ask them to spit for half an hour.  But tomorrow, I hope I can do it tomorrow and get it into the mail Saturday.

post #55 of 770


 

hug2.gif  Leigh, so sorry for your loss.


 

Quote:
Originally Posted by tanyalynnView Post

  

 

Shannon, I was wondering if mthfr was one of the SNPs they were referencing, I've skimmed a lot of the article but haven't gotten all the details.  My mom was diagnosed with fatty liver, I'm not certain that there's any mthfr variants in my family at all, but we clearly have methylation issues, and I'm guessing that methylation stress is what's causing it for her, when mostly she doesn't consume different amounts of choline than anyone else.  But it makes a good argument for regular egg and/or liver consumption. 

 

 

I'm gonna admit I haven't followed all the genetic stuff that's flying around here, but Tanya, this one has my attention.  We are still off eggs - completely for the kids, and I only consume it is small quantities (in gf bread products, etc.).  Something has seriously changed for me health-wise since I a) stopped nursing and b) stopped eating eggs.  I can't place my finger on it, but I certainly don't feel better not eating eggs, and I've been concerned about the nutrients I'm missing.  And last year, my older sister was diagnosed with fatty liver (among other things).  I don't know why I haven't added eggs back in, but this just might be the kicker for me to do so.......

post #56 of 770

Tanya! I was thinking of you earlier when I made pate today. I made two versions (one for Lily & one for me). Soak the livers in water with lemon juice first!! Her pate had livers fried in EVOO, with oregano, cumin, coriander, salt and pepper, parsley, and apple cider vinegar, buzzed with palm shortening. Mine had caramelized onions & livers fried in EVOO, with cumin, coriander, salt, pepper, oregano, parsley, paprika and cayenne and a squirt of yellow mustard, apple cider vinegar, and buzzed with raw shallots and palm shortening. We used baked parsnip "chips" as dippers. Yum! 

post #57 of 770
Quote:
Originally Posted by oaksie68 View Post

I'm gonna admit I haven't followed all the genetic stuff that's flying around here, but Tanya, this one has my attention.  We are still off eggs - completely for the kids, and I only consume it is small quantities (in gf bread products, etc.).  Something has seriously changed for me health-wise since I a) stopped nursing and b) stopped eating eggs.  I can't place my finger on it, but I certainly don't feel better not eating eggs, and I've been concerned about the nutrients I'm missing.  And last year, my older sister was diagnosed with fatty liver (among other things).  I don't know why I haven't added eggs back in, but this just might be the kicker for me to do so.......

 

Eggs are the main one I feel. I can live w/o dairy (although I would like to have some, as my pp says because I am so sick of supps and I feel like it is such an easy source of protein, fat, and calcium), gluten, soy, but eggs bites. And I am no longer nursing dd but I have confirmed my own gluten issue, and I think gluten is dangerous, period, so we will always be a gf household. Soy, no biggie. The hardest part of no soy is wanting a chocolate bar but I can live w/o that! I do really truly crave eggs but my reaction has varied - and they are the only thing I remember having problems with prior to my pregnancy. I grew up eating TONS of eggs -we were poor and had chickens-but at some point I really started to dislike them and wouldn't eat them plain (preteen years, maybe early teens?). I am sure this was because I knew subconciously that they made me feel bad. I ate them throughout my pregnancy w/dd though and had no problems. After she was born I kept having abdominal pain and I finally pinpointed eggs so I stopped eating them again. They proved to be something dd reacts to, but it is really variable. I will trial some and she'll be fine but always has a build-up reeaction or we have to get eggs from another farm and she ends up reacting. BTW, there are NO farms here that have soy free feed. Even my most dedicated tf farmer, who uses field peas for protein, says that he has to use soy (local & organic) if he runs out of field peas. My reaction is variable also. I was adding yolks to my smoothies for a while w/no problem, then stopped due to dd's reactions. When we trialed them I had gallbladder pain so we stopped again. Trialed again and I had heartburn. So we're still off them. I wish I could get a steady supply of soy-free eggs to see if that is a variable. We also tried duck eggs and dd didn't react but I did upon the second ingestion so I was scared and stopped.

I think the time I was tolerating them well, my gut was in decent shape. At this point, my gut health has regressed again due to not being able to afford enzymes and Custom Probiotics CP1 (the ones I have had the best luck with!).
 

post #58 of 770

Had a postpartum mental health appointment with my new MD.  Sigh.  He is a mix of good and bad and I'm trying to figure out how much to push and how much strength I have to push. 

I am totally ok with how the focus of the appointment went. He was appropriate and we created some good solutions for my safety and mental health, although I don't plan on picking up the anti-depression meds he called into cvs. At the end I asked for a thyroid test and had to argue to have T3 T4 (free) tested.  I then asked him to tell me about Hashi's  and he kind of smiled (smirked sounds rather nasty doesn't it?) and asked if I thought I had Hashimoto's.   Thyroid tests came back fine-ish.  Not close to hypo at all, but not hyper as when I was pregnant. 

So why does the base of my neck swell when I eat trace amounts of gluten or when I take iodine (think that happens, don't quite remember)  He searched lower and deeper on my neck than where it swells.  So maybe it isn't my thyroid?  Maybe this guy is just too young?  shoot.  I want a really good doc. 

I'm trying to figure out how to broach the topic with him.  Email?  talk face to face?  I have a follow up in two weeks and the boys have their initial appointments at that time.  My goal is to have tests.  I need him for that.  I want him to help me problem solve. 

Wonder if I provide some studies  related to what I want to test, maybe that will give me some cred? 

 

also - does anyone think any of our typical mood raisers will help with pp hormone issues? or do I need to get my hormones in order.  (never got my placenta -sent to the lab after my emergency surgery)

also - can low iron be a cause of emotional stuff? my energy is pretty good but I hemmoraged pretty badly and my numbers are rather low -  not scary or anything.  My energy is quite good though. 

I felt fabulous after Jamie's reiki and I'm doing pretty well with Elisabeth's suggestions but I'm not totally ok.  I will contact Elisabeth in a couple of days. 

He gave a huge thumbs up with Elisabeth's homeopathic remedy and said that is what he would have chosen. 

He also wants me to start taking Digest Gold to help with my digestion.  thought that was good.  and was up on gluten free floradix

anyone have an opinion on the difference between high quality fish oil and vegan algae DHA supps.  He was pushing the algae supps

off to test if I need more 5-htp, and sepia

 

 

 

Chlobo - sucks about Adam's adenoids. hope you can get some ideas.

post #59 of 770
post #60 of 770
Quote:
Originally Posted by lil_miss_understood View Post

Interesting beet recipe.



mmmm looks good

New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Allergies
Mothering › Mothering Forums › Mom › Women's Health  › Allergies › Delicious December 2010 Chat