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post #1 of 11
Thread Starter 
We have a boy next door, of course the only kid my daughter's age who lives near us. He is very aggressive and mean, and seemes to live to torture my daughter. They are both four, and my daughter, Delilah is one of those sweet, quiet, creative types. She lives in a world of fairys and elves and imaginings. I took her over to his house earlier in the week because his mom asked if we would come over to visit. Once we were there, he went outside with Delilah and for no reason squirted her with the hose. It was cold outside and she started screaming, which I expected would cause his mom to discuss with him the importance of respecting other people's comfort, ect, but she did nothing! Completely ignored it! Then he butted his chest against her in an aggressive way until she was trapped in a corner, and still his mother did nothing. Then he blocked her way when she tried to pass by, again trapping her while discreetly smashing her leg. There was many more things like this that are too numerous to list, but basically his mom implied that because Delilah reacts to it, it causes him to do it, and then she said upon our leave that she hoped Delilah would want to play soon once she has had a nap...as if a nap will make her happy about being abused!

Yesterday he came over and destroyed the beautiful chalk drawing she made that took her a half hour writing her name. It was not an innocent accident. She asked him to be careful because she worked hard on it, and immediatly he grabbed chalk and roughly skribbled it out, all while giving her a mean stare and evil laugh. He always eems to be hitting her, and his mother does absolutely nothing! I was very sick this week, and he came over. I was not well enough to watch such a difficult child, so told his mom it was not a good time. She told him it was time to go, and he did not listen, so she just left him there! She did not even try to explain why they had to go-she just let him have his way and then came back 45 minuts later for him.

Does anyone know any way that I might tell his mother that if he does not stop hurting my daughter he will not be able to play with her anymore? I don't want to hurt her feelings, but I feel that she is trying to teach my daughter that the violence being commited against her is somehow her fault. I absolutely refuse to let anyone teach her that. It seems like a case of parents that don't want to see fault in their child, but don't realise that it is their own fault! I know kids are not born that way! If anyone has any advice, I would eppreciate it. I know this post has been long, but thanks for reading it anyways!
post #2 of 11

Re: Problem with violent neighbor boy

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if he does not stop hurting my daughter he will not be able to play with her anymore?
That's all you need to say. Althought I'd stay as far away from them as possible! Maybe it would do them a favor to at least know how you feel, but these don't sound like reasonable people. Definatley don't subject your daughter to him anymore, or his mother for that matter!
post #3 of 11
Also, you have an obligation and duty to protect your daughter. If the mother isn't going to, you need to step in. She will learn how to let herself be treated from you. If you let this child act aggressively and abusively toward your daughter, she might think that's how other people treat her. She's four, she doesn't have anyone else to stick up for her. That's your job.

When she sees you putting a stop to aggressive behavior, she learns how to deal with it herself, and that it is not acceptable.

It will also show the mother of this child that you don't find this behavior appropriate. Particularly if you say something to her (I second the suggestion to talk bluntly and plainly about this).


Bec
post #4 of 11
ds1 is a very VERY passive kiddo.
When he was 3, there was a boy in daycare whose mother was going through a nasty, ugly divorce and the poor kid was the center of a whole lot of custody issues.
He was very angry, which I totally understood.
What wasn't okay, was that he took it out on my kiddo, since he wouldn't fight back, like many of the other kids.

Thankfully, the daycare had a policy of telling kids to use their words and encouraging active listening.

Ds would quietly say "Stop hitting me. I don't like that."
Other kiddo would ignore it, and continue to hit.

We had to sit down and tell ds that it was okay to use ANGRY words when someone doesn't listen.
We (by we, I mean his teacher, the center director, and myself) all sat with him and had him practice YELLING angry words--
"I Want You To STOP Hitting Me NOW! That HURTS Me and I DO NOT LIKE IT"

It drew attention to the situation, when it occured, so a teacher could intervene and it forced the other kiddo to be aware that he couldn't secretly behave like that (I'm not sure secretely is the right word for it, but basically, he didn't do it when other people were paying attention, kwim?)
ht
We really never put it fully to the test--the mom pulled him out of the center shortly after that
but it did help while he was still there.

I don't know if this would help your dd, but it might be good to try? Maybe just trying out the role-playing and how she might take control of the situation?
If she doesn't have the words to tell him to stop, she might need some ideas from you....
hth
post #5 of 11
If you've ever read The Gift of Fear or Protecting the Gift, the author writes extensively about our natural ability to protect ourselves and our children from harm. Our instincts are always right b/c they are alerting us to possible danger and they have our interests first and foremost! It is our wanting to be polite or not hurt someone's feelings, etc. that ends up hurting us or our children!! If this child lives to torture your daughter, you have the ability to remove your daughter. It can be that simple. If you choose to participate in that environment, you'll need to lay the ground rules and help your dd help herself. Modeling is really important until she can do it unassisted. If the mother is that oblivious or unconcerned about her son's actions and how they're hurting others (and then blaming the victim!!!), it doesn't sound like they're a family you'd want to hang out with anyway. Also, if someone like this left their child w/me w/o asking, I would immediately go and return him---NO way am I accepting this responsibilty!

If you want to talk to the mother---I would say it just like you said it here! It's to the point---no ambiguity. If he's not able to stop hurting my daughter, we're going not going to be able to play until he can play w/o hurting her.

Or what about: I'm very upset/concerned when I see Xyz hit, kick, smash (whatever---no judgement implied---just spell out what you've seen him do) my daughter because her safety is my #1 priority. Would you be willing to speak to Xyz and help me watch them closely so that no one gets hurt when they play?

Hmmmm, I'm wondering if the Mothering Magazine article from a few years ago on protecting your child from bullies is online at mothering.com???

All the best,
post #6 of 11
Thread Starter 
Thanks for all of the advice! I definitly plan on talking to her about this. I think the main problem is that alot of the things he does are aggressive and intimidating, but he stops at outright physical violence whenever she is around. He seems to know that he can get away with aggressive behavior, so takes it as far as he can without actually outright hitting her. To me, aggression is aggression, and even if there is not actual hitting, it should not be allowed for a child to intimidate and bully, but I guess she does not think that way.

The good thing is that my daughter is VERY vocal about it, and screams for him to stop, and that she does not like it. She has very good boundaries and is good at defining them. The only problem with it is that his mom sees it as my daughter constantly screaming, and refuses to see the reason behind it. I never thought I'd feel this way because I love all children, but I really don't like this kid and don't want him in our lives. I know he can't be all bad, but he really seems evil sometimes. He is literally incapable of having fun unless he is destroying something, bullying someone, or hurting their dog. (the thing that bothers me most after his treatment of my daughter is how they let him hurt their little sweet dog. What is wrong with these people????)
post #7 of 11
I agree with the other lady's but I strongly encourage you to read

The Wonder of Boys by Michael Gurian. This boy seems more than just "boy" but I find parents of only girls don't get the difference between boys and girls.

I am not trying to justify bad behavior nor bad parenting (which I think this is) but sometimes boys normal bump and touch behaviors are misunderstood as being bad aggressive.
post #8 of 11
sounds like that kid is angry and in a lot of pain calling out for attention?
post #9 of 11
It really concerned me that she left him with you for 45 min. I wouold have been pushing him out the door right after her, saying "You don't behave like this in MY home. You're mother said it's time to go, so GO!"


-Haether
post #10 of 11
When she left him, I would have walked him home immediately no matter how sick I was. The mom does not seem respectful of you or your dd. I also would stop the behavior myself. Because the mom isn't doing it. When he does something mean to your dd tell him not to. Don't wait for his mom to handle it, because she has already proven to be unconcerned.

Frankly, I wouldn't get together with them at all, but if you are those things are what I'd do.
post #11 of 11
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Originally posted by Arwen
I think the main problem is that alot of the things he does are aggressive and intimidating, but he stops at outright physical violence whenever she is around. He seems to know that he can get away with aggressive behavior, so takes it as far as he can without actually outright hitting her.

It doesn't matter. You and your daughter don't like the way he is acting towards her. His mother has proved that she will not stop him. That means it falls to you to stop him in order to protect your daughter.

The other option is to not be around them.


Bec
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