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post #21 of 118
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I'm totally with you all regarding the emotion and the nausea.  I'm CD13 here... took 40mg soy on CDs 5-9.  I've been an emotional wreck ever since and have had nausea for at least a couple of hours every day.  Yesterday I had lots of cramping and there were 3 days straight where I had a bit of pink in my CM.  I really hope all of this means that it's working!!

 

A2E - Yikes!  Have you tried maybe scaling it back to 40mg?  Then if that doesn't work you could up the dose.  I don't know much about how the varying dosages work, but I have heard that less is more.  The 40mg is making me weird enough... can't imagine what 4x that would do!  Keep us posted.

 

Anyone testing soon? 

 

I'm still waiting to O.  I'm going to be apart from my hubby until Monday (CD15) so I'm hoping that O holds off until after that.

post #22 of 118


 

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Originally Posted by MommyMatsumoto View Post

I'm totally with you all regarding the emotion and the nausea.  I'm CD13 here... took 40mg soy on CDs 5-9.  I've been an emotional wreck ever since and have had nausea for at least a couple of hours every day.  Yesterday I had lots of cramping and there were 3 days straight where I had a bit of pink in my CM.  I really hope all of this means that it's working!!

 

A2E - Yikes!  Have you tried maybe scaling it back to 40mg?  Then if that doesn't work you could up the dose.  I don't know much about how the varying dosages work, but I have heard that less is more.  The 40mg is making me weird enough... can't imagine what 4x that would do!  Keep us posted.

 

Anyone testing soon? 

 

I'm still waiting to O.  I'm going to be apart from my hubby until Monday (CD15) so I'm hoping that O holds off until after that.


Well, I did 120mg last month (the recommended starting doses on my other infertility boards) and it didn't do squat. Didn't move my O date at all, didn't get me pregnant (obviously) and just gave me more noticeable O symptoms without really doing anything... girls on my other boards have had great success with larger doses (up to 200mg) ... but the side effects were just too much for me. I don't really think soy is going to do crap for me. I'm going to stick with the 80mg for now... I didn't have any side effects at all last night with it so think I'm good with this dose... I'll probably be done with soy after this cycle. I don't have much faith in it.

post #23 of 118
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Originally Posted by MommyMatsumoto View Post

I'm totally with you all regarding the emotion and the nausea.  I'm CD13 here... took 40mg soy on CDs 5-9.  I've been an emotional wreck ever since and have had nausea for at least a couple of hours every day.  Yesterday I had lots of cramping and there were 3 days straight where I had a bit of pink in my CM.  I really hope all of this means that it's working!!

 

A2E - Yikes!  Have you tried maybe scaling it back to 40mg?  Then if that doesn't work you could up the dose.  I don't know much about how the varying dosages work, but I have heard that less is more.  The 40mg is making me weird enough... can't imagine what 4x that would do!  Keep us posted.

 

Anyone testing soon? 

 

I'm still waiting to O.  I'm going to be apart from my hubby until Monday (CD15) so I'm hoping that O holds off until after that.



I really didn't have much in the way of bad symptoms. My temp was lower and I had stronger O pains and that was pretty much it.

 

I'm trying to hold off testing. AF is due Thursday, and since my temp hasn't crept up to the high 98s yet I'm not holding out much hope. I know there's still time plus I don't know what my temp this morning was, but I just don't feel it, IYKWIM. I forgot my thermometer at home, and my mother's thermometer must be broken. It said my temp was 91.5 which I'm having a really hard time believing. lol.gif

 

So anyway, I suppose I may have had a spike today. Guess I'll know tomorrow. If AF doesn't show up on Thursday I will test Friday morning. I graduate Friday afternoon, and it would be nice to know before I go out and celebrate next weekend (if I even do).

post #24 of 118

Okay, I went to go buy this soy stuff at two different stores.  At walmart and the grocery store.  I didn't find it in either.  They sell them in canada right?  Is there any reason they wouldn't?  I didn't want to ask the pharmacist. . . .  lol  

 

I am going to keep my eye open and try to get some for next cycle, but I am already CD5 so I can't this cycle.

post #25 of 118

I had a hard time finding it too.  I went to Whole Foods, and their natural supplement section is gigantic.  I finallllyyyy found it (1 brand, 2 bottles left, on the bottom shelf), but it wasn't marked as soy isoflavones.  It was called Menopause-Help, or something along those lines.  Basically try looking in the hormone replacement area, if they have one, and read the back of the labels.  Good luck!

post #26 of 118
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I found it in the menopause section at Walmart.  It wasn't in alphabetical order so it was kind of hard to find.  I got 60 40mg tablets for $6.00.

 

Update for me:  CD16 now with no O in sight.  I haven't been crabby, but just mainly emotional.  I did experience some cramping a couple of days ago which I hope means that this stuff is working.  Overall, I'm having a good experience with the soy.  I will probably give it another couple tries before giving up on it. 

post #27 of 118
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A2E - ((HUGS))  This TTC journey can be so hard sometimes.  I pray that you get your BFP soon!

post #28 of 118

Just to update - I'm CD 1 today. An average cycle for me is 31 days, with O on CD 17. Two cycles ago I had my longest cycle ever - 34 days. No clue why. Cycle after that I had a 31 day cycle, but O was on CD 14. (I actually think that would have been a 28 day cycle, but I was very possibly pregnant. Had two faint BFPs.) This past cycle (first soy cycle) was 29 days with O on CD 17 (possibly CD 15).

 

I'm not sure if soy did much for me or not. My temps all cycle were lower than normal. My cervix ripened earlier, but I can't say I had more EWCM than usual. O pains were a little stronger than normal. I got sick around O time, so that really messed things up.

 

I'm definitely going to try the soy again this time around. Guess we'll see if the symptoms are the same. I think I'll stick with the same dosage.

post #29 of 118

Checking in as well.

 

I'm on CD 11, waiting to O in the next few days.  Keeping my fingers crossed that the soy doesn't move my O date too much!  I'm temping, checking cervical signs, and OPKing, so I shoulddd have a really good idea of when I ovulate lol.gif

 

The symptoms weren't too terrible for me.  I had a massive headache one of the days (I think day 8), and some nausea / hot flashes for the first 2 days.  But now I seem to be back to normal.  No signs of fertile CM, which kinda bums me out.  I was hoping to have a bunch this time around, especially with the soy and the fact that I've been drinking TONS of water and green tea!  We'll see as a get a little closer to O if that changes though.  Plus I bought some Preseed, sooooo it wouldn't be the end of the world if I didn't get a whole lot.  

 

And now for a completely random and unrelated comment.  Would it bug you ladies if your boyfriend's brother and sister-in-law address everything to you as "Yourfirstname Hislastname"?  At first I kinda thought it was because they didn't remember my last name lol.gif, but now I think they are trying to do it to be inclusive, I guess?  DBF comes from a very conservative, Catholic family.  I do not.  But that's one of the things I love about him!  However if / when we DO get married, I won't be changing my name.  And I'm fairly sure the kids we have will have my last, or maybe both.  

 

Should I approach them about it?  Is it even worth it?  Yeah, the implication that I will eventually change my name kinda bugs me.  But I don't think they are trying to be passive-aggressive about it or anything.  And eventually they will get the hint when, at our wedding, I do not in fact suddenly become "Mrs. Hislastname" wink1.gif

 

Any advice?

post #30 of 118

9 DPO on soy. I had a good ovulation but I am not too optimistic. Taking it on CD 2 instead CD 4 made me O on time as opposed to 3 days late.

post #31 of 118
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Update here as well:  I'm on CD18 or something like that and on my second day with the stomach flu.  I'm supposed to O pretty soon so I'm hoping things won't be too messed up.

post #32 of 118

CD 4 today. Remembered to take my soy last night, woohoo! Now if I can just remember tonight - CD 7. wink1.gif

post #33 of 118

Hi all.  I will be trying soy this cycle.  This will only be our 2nd cycle actively TTC, but I've been off BC since my 5.5yo was an infant.  We mostly did the whole P&P thing (which you know what they say about that LOL) and some cycles didn't do anything at all to try to prevent.  So 4 years of that with no "oops" have got me worried.  I've also had more than my fair share of 40+ day cycles and annovulatory cycles, so I'm hoping the soy changes that.  This cycle I'm doing 40mg on days 2-6.  Should I do 80mg on CD6?  Also, what's this about increased chance of twins? redface.gif  We wouldn't mind twins, I'm just wondering if its actually happened to anyone.

post #34 of 118
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Hi!  I'm on my first cycle of soy myself so I'm not a wealth of information yet. LOL  As for the twins thing, I think I read once that as with Clomid there is a 5% increase in the chance of having twins.  Soy isoflavones haven't really been studied like Clomid though so I would take that with a grain of salt.
 

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Hi all.  I will be trying soy this cycle.  This will only be our 2nd cycle actively TTC, but I've been off BC since my 5.5yo was an infant.  We mostly did the whole P&P thing (which you know what they say about that LOL) and some cycles didn't do anything at all to try to prevent.  So 4 years of that with no "oops" have got me worried.  I've also had more than my fair share of 40+ day cycles and annovulatory cycles, so I'm hoping the soy changes that.  This cycle I'm doing 40mg on days 2-6.  Should I do 80mg on CD6?  Also, what's this about increased chance of twins? redface.gif  We wouldn't mind twins, I'm just wondering if its actually happened to anyone.

post #35 of 118

This soy cycle was a bust. I did ovulate. I did have lots of fertile CM and a fertile CP. I did have 13 day LP. It was still a bust. I did have a suspicion that conception occurred but I never tested so I will never know. I kinda like it that way right now.

 

I dont know if I should try it again this cycle or take a break. Is it something that we should take a break from sometimes?

post #36 of 118
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I responded to you on THE ONE thread, but I'll do it here too.  I think that if you had good results and it was only your first time taking soy, that you should try it again.  Like I told you on the other thread, I'm going to do some research about the length of time it's safe to take soy (or Clomid) and I'll get back to you. I'm sorry the last cycle was a bust.  ((HUGS))
 

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This soy cycle was a bust. I did ovulate. I did have lots of fertile CM and a fertile CP. I did have 13 day LP. It was still a bust. I did have a suspicion that conception occurred but I never tested so I will never know. I kinda like it that way right now.

 

I dont know if I should try it again this cycle or take a break. Is it something that we should take a break from sometimes?

post #37 of 118

I missed the soy dose last night, so I guess I won't even consider this a soy cycle. I only managed to take 2 doses, and one of those was in the morning instead of the night before when it was supposed to be. The past few days were just too crazy. Oh well, I ovulate without it anyway, so it may not make much of a difference. If this cycle is a bust, I'll try again next time.

post #38 of 118
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I couldn't fnd anything about the length of time it's safe to take soy, but I found a variety of responses for Clomid ranging from 6 months to a year.  I think up to 6 months on soy would probably be okay, but I don't know who you could ask to verify that.  Anyone else have any information about this?

post #39 of 118


Thanks for looking into it. I think I will give it 6 months and take a 3 month break. I dont use really high doses anyway.

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Originally Posted by MommyMatsumoto View Post

I couldn't fnd anything about the length of time it's safe to take soy, but I found a variety of responses for Clomid ranging from 6 months to a year.  I think up to 6 months on soy would probably be okay, but I don't know who you could ask to verify that.  Anyone else have any information about this?

post #40 of 118

Lydiah - I think that may be what I'll do.  I'm taking low doses as well.  Hopefully it won't take us long enough to need a break though. orngbiggrin.gif

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