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post #41 of 118
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I may go as long as 6 months as well.  Hopefully none of us need to for that long!  :)
 

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Thanks for looking into it. I think I will give it 6 months and take a 3 month break. I dont use really high doses anyway.

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I couldn't fnd anything about the length of time it's safe to take soy, but I found a variety of responses for Clomid ranging from 6 months to a year.  I think up to 6 months on soy would probably be okay, but I don't know who you could ask to verify that.  Anyone else have any information about this?


 
post #42 of 118

Hi everyone. I'm on my second cycle with soy. Last cycle, I took 40 mg CD 3-5 and 80 MG CD 6&7. I really like what soy has done for me. For one thing, I had a TON of EWCM, also earlier in the cycle although I am not temping so I don't know when I really O'd. I had been having some 35+ day cycles and the first one on soy was 28. Also, my period seemed lighter this time around.

Currently, I'm in the middle of my second soy cycle, CD 5 (40 mg).

I got the $6 Spring Valley 40mg pills from Walmart.

 

So I'm really hoping soy does it for me.  This is probably coming up on month 6 of trying for us. I am also happy that I haven't noticed any change in mood with soy. I am on SSRIs so maybe that catches it, but I can still have some wicked pms. I am liking the dose so far so I can't see why I'd raise it in the future.

 

Happy holidays and I look forward to sharing soy stories. :)

post #43 of 118
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Hi everyone. I'm on my second cycle with soy. Last cycle, I took 40 mg CD 3-5 and 80 MG CD 6&7. I really like what soy has done for me. For one thing, I had a TON of EWCM, also earlier in the cycle although I am not temping so I don't know when I really O'd. I had been having some 35+ day cycles and the first one on soy was 28. Also, my period seemed lighter this time around.

Currently, I'm in the middle of my second soy cycle, CD 5 (40 mg).

I got the $6 Spring Valley 40mg pills from Walmart.

 

So I'm really hoping soy does it for me.  This is probably coming up on month 6 of trying for us. I am also happy that I haven't noticed any change in mood with soy. I am on SSRIs so maybe that catches it, but I can still have some wicked pms. I am liking the dose so far so I can't see why I'd raise it in the future.

 

Happy holidays and I look forward to sharing soy stories. :)



I think mine seemed a bit lighter, too. Didn't even connect it to the soy.

 

Does anyone else have really bad breakouts? My skin has been worse in the past 6 months or so anyway, but usually it's around my period. But this week I've been waking up with a new pimple each morning it seems like. And these are very deep, cystic types. I'm wondering if the soy is making it worse?? I'm CD 10 so it's not even AF. Before this cycle I chocked up the breakouts to stress (school, TTC, money), but a lot of that stress is gone now that I've graduated. My skin is worse now than it was even when I was a teenager. And I'm not too far from 30!

post #44 of 118

Just checking in.

 

I also found this cycle to be super heavy on the acne side of things lol.  I always had great skin, but getting myself off of hormonal BC, avoiding soy like the plague during the LP, and throwing away all my wonderful (but salicyclic acid and phthalate-laden) face washes has really made my skin terrible.  I hate it!

 

Does anyone notice more progesterone-dominant symptoms in general in the TWW while on soy?  For example, my boobs started hurting WAY earlier this cycle.....like, almost immediately after I ovulated.  Also the breaking out, the moodiness, the bloating....everything seems exaggerated on this soy cycle.  Does an increase in estrogen in the follicular phase somehow boost progesterone in the luteal phase?!?  That would be awesome....and crazy lol.  

 

All I know is that I'm only 4dpo and I feel like I'm about to get AF, that's how bad the symptoms are.  

 

How is everyone enjoying Christmas Eve?  smile.gif  Hope everyone is having a good holiday season.

post #45 of 118

Hi ladies,

 

It looks like I am joining you for my January cycle since my period appears to be starting tonight. irked.gif

 

My cycles are not crazy long but I O on the late-ish side (CD 18-23) so I'd like to bump that up.  I also suffer from a short LP.  6 years ago I corrected it simply with NPC and got pregnant with DD but this time around NPC and B6 just aren't cutting it.

 

I was wondering if anyone who has taken soy isoflavones noticed that it helped lengthen their LP?  Since I have read it's like "nature's Clomid" and Clomid can help with lengthening, I was hoping soy would do the same...

 

Thanks for sharing your experiences/info!

post #46 of 118

OK, I went ahead and bought a bottle today.  It has 62 mg in it (2 capsules) so I guess I will start there...

 

Still looking for LP stories...  shy.gif

post #47 of 118
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I don't know about my LP yet, but my cycle is considerably longer this time (1st cycle on soy).  I *think* I ovulated yesterday on CD28 and before that my latest O on record was CD20.  Though, I don't know if my late O is due to having the flu for 2 days right around my usual O time.  I guess we'll find out on the next cycle if I don't get my BFP this time.

 

Anyone else have any updates?

post #48 of 118

I'll jump in and tell you my experience.  I'll took a lot of soy days 1-5 of this cycle.   

 

http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/21b89c

 

My O was one day earlier and there was a ton of EWCM.  I felt O, but only on the right side, nothing crazy.  I didn't seem to have any symptoms, so who knows.  Of course, everything works differently on different people.  Also, I just have a gut feeling (pun intended) that this cycle is a bust.  I don't know why.  So, we'll see in the next few days. 

 

I just wanted to point out that most other websites count the number of soy isoflavones that your taking, not just soy.  So, the Walmart Spring Valley Brand has 40 mg of soy at 40% isoflavones, so 16mg isoflavones per pill.  The Now brand for example has 150 mg of soy at 40% total isoflavones, so 60 mg isoflavones per pill.  (I believe that's right about the Spring Valley Brand.)  Just wanted to let you all know, so you can compare apples to apples, so to speak. 

 

post #49 of 118
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I have the Walmart one so I'll go double check.  Geez, maybe I wasn't taking enough last time!

post #50 of 118

Updating :

 

Hope everyone is enjoying their week so far.  On my front, it's just a waiting game to see if this first soy cycle was a good one or not.  

 

If I can be perfectly honest -- and insane -- with you ladies, I think that I'm pregnant.  I'm only 8 dpo, but something just feels....different.  Same early symptoms as my last pregnancy, only EARLIER, and a little stronger already.  Sore boobs, uterine "fullness", moodiness.  I'm trying not to get my hopes up, but we did really put in a great effort this month; kept up with our supplements, did soy and baby aspirin, DTD on the right days.....I just have a good feeling about this month.  I hope I'm not wrong.  praying.gif

 

I will let you ladies know whether this soy thing was a good bet to place as soon as I know.  I plan on testing on NYE.  Best of luck to everyone!

post #51 of 118
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Hopeful Mama -  I hope you're right!  :)

 

AFM, I think I'm now 2dpo.  Nothing new to report.

 

I did check my soy isoflavones from Walmart (Spring Valley brand) and they said 80mg soy isoflavones per 2 capsules.  It didn't say anything about soy and then percentage of soy isoflavones so I'm assuming that when I took one capsule per day I was getting 40mg of soy isoflavones.  Am I wrong?

post #52 of 118

I finished my soy the other day. I did CD 3-7 and I took 75, 75, 75, 90, 105 mg. It made me a little moody, but it was alright. Now I wait to O. I think DH and I are going to BD every other day until I get EWCM and then BD every night once I do.

 

post #53 of 118


That sounds right to me.

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Hopeful Mama -  I hope you're right!  :)

 

AFM, I think I'm now 2dpo.  Nothing new to report.

 

I did check my soy isoflavones from Walmart (Spring Valley brand) and they said 80mg soy isoflavones per 2 capsules.  It didn't say anything about soy and then percentage of soy isoflavones so I'm assuming that when I took one capsule per day I was getting 40mg of soy isoflavones.  Am I wrong?

post #54 of 118
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Hopeful Mama -  I hope you're right!  :)

 

AFM, I think I'm now 2dpo.  Nothing new to report.

 

I did check my soy isoflavones from Walmart (Spring Valley brand) and they said 80mg soy isoflavones per 2 capsules.  It didn't say anything about soy and then percentage of soy isoflavones so I'm assuming that when I took one capsule per day I was getting 40mg of soy isoflavones.  Am I wrong?

 

Well, if it said 40 mg soy isoflavones per capsule that must be what it is.  I had heard differently, but I'm using the Now Brand which I'm sure of.  So, best of luck! 

 

post #55 of 118
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I'm just glad I didn't goof it up! :)  I'm pretty sure this is an annovulatory cycle now (possibly my 3rd in a row).  I'm waiting for AF to start so I can do my 2nd soy cycle.  I'm hoping the next one is THE one! 

 

Good luck everybody!

post #56 of 118

Hello everyone! I am contemplating using soy iso and wanted to know what you ladies think.

This is only our first cycle TTC but I have been charting for 1 year and my cycles have never gotten back to normal after quitting bcp. My cycles in the last year have been as follows:

 

1. O on CD23

2. O on CD27

3. O on CD25

4. O on CD29

5. O on CD44

6. O after FOUR MONTHS

 

I am currently on CD24 and I've been having barely any cervical fluid, and normally I have a week of EWCF straight before O happens (and usually patches well before), so I know it's not going to be any time soon. This is getting so frustrating already. I was hoping my cycle would be more normal this time since I did finally O in my last long cycle and I've been taking maca for 2 months, but things are not looking that way. Would it be crazy to try soy right off the bat when we have just started trying? Also, would it be a bad idea to try taking soy in the middle of my cycle since it seems my body hasn't even tried to ovulate yet, or would I have to induce a bleed with progesterone first if I decided to go that route? I just don't want to be waiting another 4 months before we even have a chance at conceiving. Any thoughts? TIA

post #57 of 118
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Soy isoflavones are considered natural Clomid and as such are taken on certain days in your cycle and in certain amounts.  For example, I take soy on CD 5-9 and take 40mg per day.  Others have decided on other amounts and other days that are typical of Clomid.  If you have a period longer than 45 days, I hear that you can take something called Provera to induce your period and start another cycle.

 

As for O date, I can't help you there.  Some women it moves their O date up to a more normal time and others it makes it later or doesn't change a thing.  Since you know that you're ovulating, maybe you could try vitex and/or maca first.  Those herbs are known to help regulate a woman's cycle and there are some threads on here about those as well.
 

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Hello everyone! I am contemplating using soy iso and wanted to know what you ladies think.

This is only our first cycle TTC but I have been charting for 1 year and my cycles have never gotten back to normal after quitting bcp. My cycles in the last year have been as follows:

 

1. O on CD23

2. O on CD27

3. O on CD25

4. O on CD29

5. O on CD44

6. O after FOUR MONTHS

 

I am currently on CD24 and I've been having barely any cervical fluid, and normally I have a week of EWCF straight before O happens (and usually patches well before), so I know it's not going to be any time soon. This is getting so frustrating already. I was hoping my cycle would be more normal this time since I did finally O in my last long cycle and I've been taking maca for 2 months, but things are not looking that way. Would it be crazy to try soy right off the bat when we have just started trying? Also, would it be a bad idea to try taking soy in the middle of my cycle since it seems my body hasn't even tried to ovulate yet, or would I have to induce a bleed with progesterone first if I decided to go that route? I just don't want to be waiting another 4 months before we even have a chance at conceiving. Any thoughts? TIA

post #58 of 118

Hi ladies, just checking in.

 

CD 3-5 I took 62 mg.  Today is CD 6 so I plan to take 93 mg and then tomorrow 124 so we will see if this makes me O any earlier (and hopefully lengthen my LP)....

 

Happy New Year!

post #59 of 118

Can I join? I've been following this thread for a while, but I was waiting for AF to start to jump in!

 

I had a m/c in October. I'm now on my second post-m/c cycle. I used to O on CD11 or CD12, and last month it was CD18. I'm hoping the soy will bump that back where it belongs. I think I'm on CD3 right now...I had two days of spotting which never happens, so I was confused on when to start the soy. I counted CD1 as the first day I had real flow, and took 65mg of soy on CD2.

 

Is it ok to take soy and maca at the same time? I got my BFP with my DD on maca, so there is a soft spot in my heart for it. redface.gif It didn't work for me last month, and I'm trying to decide if I should spring for another bottle or just focus on the soy this cycle.

post #60 of 118
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First of all, I'm so sorry for your loss.  :(  I just want to caution you about taking maca with soy though.  I know that you're not supposed to take vitex and soy together, but not sure about maca so please do a bit of research before continuing on with it.  I'd hate for the maca to cancel out the soy.
 

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Can I join? I've been following this thread for a while, but I was waiting for AF to start to jump in!

 

I had a m/c in October. I'm now on my second post-m/c cycle. I used to O on CD11 or CD12, and last month it was CD18. I'm hoping the soy will bump that back where it belongs. I think I'm on CD3 right now...I had two days of spotting which never happens, so I was confused on when to start the soy. I counted CD1 as the first day I had real flow, and took 65mg of soy on CD2.

 

Is it ok to take soy and maca at the same time? I got my BFP with my DD on maca, so there is a soft spot in my heart for it. redface.gif It didn't work for me last month, and I'm trying to decide if I should spring for another bottle or just focus on the soy this cycle.

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