UPDATE: X Mail Forwarding

[crystalface]

HE'S TRYING F-ING SET ME UP!!!!

I realized that the notice I received in the mail was actually not my X forwarding mail TO my address but forwarding it FROM my address. Note that I receive my mail at my mother's address. When I forwarded my mail, I received the same notice (given to me at original hearing by his attorney) saying that my mail is being forwarded to my moms, from X's address.

This was the same notice I received the other day with my X's name and my residential address. Which means he falsely forwarded his own mail from my house to his house, which was never coming to my house in the firstplace.

According to my old attorney, this is considered a fed offense, because he falsely filled out  USPS form. Secondly, I don't have anything to worry about because he has no proof I tried to fwd his mail, which I didn't anyway.

UGH.

[vannienicole]

I am confused.  What would he gain by that?

[yarngoddess]

That sucks! This is total manipulation :(  Hope you can get this guy out of your life soon...

[doubledutch]

if he forwarded his mail to her house, he could intercept her bills (causing her to miss payments), any checks she may have coming (causing her to suffer financially), and most importantly get letters from her lawyer, to try to gain information to his advantage.  another thing he could gain is that he may just get off on making things difficult for her.

[SoulCakes]

Originally Posted by doubledutch 

if he forwarded his mail to her house, he could intercept her bills (causing her to miss payments), any checks she may have coming (causing her to suffer financially), and most importantly get letters from her lawyer, to try to gain information to his advantage.  another thing he could gain is that he may just get off on making things difficult for her.

A good reason to get all bills put back in your own name, if possible.

[doubledutch]

lol, i mean her mail to his house.  (which is what he's doing, right?)

[crystalface]

Sorry this is so confusing. No, he is doing the reverse. He is forwarding his mail from my house to his house. He is trying to make it look like I forwarded his mail to my house. This a federal felony, which I have no reason to commit. He is trying to manipulate the system, and screw with me without violating the restraining order. However, I have not forwarded any mail except my own, and that goes to my mom's house.

A similar situation occurred when a former linebacker for the 49er's had forwarded his ex girlfriend's mail to his home. She had previously filed a TRO, and then he violated it by forwarding her mail. X is trying to make me out to be like the linebacker and claim that I am forwarding his mail to my address.

[crystalface]

P.S. Either way he is filing a false claim. If he really thought I forwarded his mail, he should have called the cops, because I'd be in violation. But obviously, I didn't. (I'm not that stupid and I would never do that in the first place). He is going to need some big fat proof in order to pass this off with the judge. I really hope he tries. Pfft. Reminds me I have to let my attorney know.

[crystalface]

Oh and, I do all my bills paperlessly. :D

[bananabee]

INSANE. Hope he doesn't get away with it.

[Theia]

So does this mean he forged your signature to do that?  It's really stupid to tamper with mail because then you are playing with the big boys, the Feds.  I hope this really backfires on him.

[crystalface]

Originally Posted by Theia 

So does this mean he forged your signature to do that?  It's really stupid to tamper with mail because then you are playing with the big boys, the Feds.  I hope this really backfires on him.

Nope. He forwarded his own mail, completely unnecessarily, so he signed it himself, or did it online himself. It most likely will backfire, as I assume he's doing it just to be a you-know-what.

[soso-lynn]

I don't get it. He forwarded his mail from your house to his. How is that problematic? Unless he is giving your address as his to pretend like he lives with you... I must be missing something.

[crystalface]

It's problematic because he's trying to say that I forwarded his mail. He's basically trying to make a false accusation. He and his attorney are trying to come up with the most ridiculous allegations, and obviously they are false. So, ultimately, it ISN'T problematic, but upsetting because he's tying to get me in trouble and potentially getting himself in trouble, without breaking the rules.

[montlake]

I guess I still don't get what the accusation would be I guess. What is the problem with his mail going to where he lives?

[Mommy2Austin]

Originally Posted by montlake 

I guess I still don't get what the accusation would be I guess. What is the problem with his mail going to where he lives?

 He forwarded his own mail to HER house and then re-forwarded it to HIS house. He's trying to make it look like SHE was trying to get his mail for whatever reason.

[surrogate]

am i missing where she said he forwarded his mail TO her house?  I only saw that he FWD mail FROM her house.

Either way, if he filled out the paper it required a signature, if you do it online they charge your CC a $1 fee so either way if he did something wrong, his name is attached
 

Originally Posted by Mommy2Austin 

Originally Posted by montlake 

I guess I still don't get what the accusation would be I guess. What is the problem with his mail going to where he lives?

 He forwarded his own mail to HER house and then re-forwarded it to HIS house. He's trying to make it look like SHE was trying to get his mail for whatever reason.

[Mommy2Austin]

I actually misread...He's forwarding mail from her house thats "his", but he never had mail going there in the first place.

[montlake]

That seems like an awfully random convoluted thing to try to set someone up for. Maybe he didn't receive a piece of mail at some point and he thought/or someone planted the thought that maybe you were forwarding his mail to you? People get paranoid and accusatory during and after rough break-ups. But maybe for whatever reason he suspected you of doing it and so he put a forwarding order in to the post office to try to reverse it? That just seems more likely than coming up with some master plan to "set you up" for some kind of mail fraud?? I am sorry if I missed another post but has he actually made some accusation about this? Or are you trying to anticipate whatever BS he might be planning?

[*MamaJen*]

Given what I know about crazy abuse guys, this kind of ridiculous game is right up Crazy Abusive Guy Alley. Don't try to understand abusive guys through the lens of normal humans -- it'll just make your brain explode.