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post #41 of 94

LunaLady--I couldn't read that without posting just to offer some hugs and love.  I'm so sorry for everything you've been through with food.  Have you read the book Intuitive Eating?  If not, you definitely should read it.  It sounds like, more than anything, you need to heal and recover from a lifetime of disordered eating (which is a big part of what that book is about).  Maybe try that before undertaking another diet?

 

WRT TF/EFLF, are you eating coconut oil?  I've only skimmed EFLF but I believe that's a huge part of the program.

 

I actually am not working anymore (long story, but it's for the best) so I think I'm going to tackle this program.  I have a copy coming to me from Amazon and I'm doing a huge coconut oil order from Mountain Rose Herbs (we just ran out this week!) and Tropical Traditions.  Once I have that stuff I can get started.

 

Does anyone know where to get fermented cod liver oil in Canada?

 

Re: Bonito flakes, do you have an Asian market (esp. Japanese) nearby?  That's where you get them.  They stink to high heaven but they make awesome miso!

post #42 of 94

Thank you, Astrea hug.gif

 

I haven't read Intuitive Eating, so I'll put that on my library queue; thank you!

 

A really great book I read that helped me is Full Moon Feast by Jessica Prentice. It helped me to see how being vegan was harming me and that I had a sugar addiction that was contributing to my eating disorders (and also suicidal thinking). I read this book around the time I read Nourishing Traditions and, while I haven't lost weight, it has helped me mentally. Like I said, I don't binge and purge anymore and I honestly hardly ever even think about food. I'll often forget to eat a meal. And that's quite the opposite of how I used to be; when I was deep in my eating disorders ALL I thought about was food. Just that change alone has made a huge difference in my quality of life.

 

After I read EFLF, I did try to eat the coconut oil before every meal, but I just couldn't do it. I love the smell, but I can't stomach the taste of it. I do use it almost exclusively for cooking, though, so I get a lot of it every day. 

 

post #43 of 94

 I know it would not help before a meal but coconut oil is really good in a smoothie.

post #44 of 94
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Yeah, I've got blue ice FCLO (Mediterranean flavor) and it's nasty!!  For me the best to take it is to just throw it back and then chug a bunch of water.  I try to do it fast, too, instead of standing there dreading it, lol!



Have you tried using milk as a chaser?  I just wonder if the fat in the milk would "attach" to the fat in the oil & carry it away better.  Like how when you eat something spicy, you're supposed to drink milk (or even cream!) to kill the burn, and it kills the burn by grabbing the oil molecules & washing them down your throat.  At least with the spicy stuff, drinking water apparently spreads the spiciness around!  I figure the same *might* apply to CLO, so it's something I plan to try when I get my FCLO in & thought I'd suggest it. :)  Also, I've *NEVER* found those flavors to be helpful; if anything they made it harder for me to choke the stuff down!  *LOL*  Once upon a time a friend of mine gave me an almost-full bottle of lemon-flavored CLO to "get me started", since I'd started drinking it at her place; while I had not too much trouble getting the "plain" stuff down, I couldn't choke that lemon-junk down.  It just sat in my fridge, as it sat in hers!  *giggle*

 

I don't have my own copy of EFLF in yet, but I did remember that taking a tbsp of CO before meals was supposed to be a good idea, so I'm trying to do that (and some other things from memory from back when I was reading EFLF & NT - my copy of NT is on it's way!). I made a large cup of strong tea, poured some of it into a smaller glass & stirred the CO into it & drank it. Ick, such a weird texture!  Hubby, of course, ate his off the spoon. *sigh*  I'm also starting with 1/2 tbsp to begin with, so I don't overwhelm myself; it's been a while since I've had much of anything besides Oreos & cereal. *gulp!* And boy, are my sinuses paying for it!  Can't wait to get back on track...

 

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 I know it would not help before a meal but coconut oil is really good in a smoothie.

Do you have a method so that it doesn't get clumpy, or do you just live with the clumpiness? I think I would notice the clumpiness of the re-cooled coconut oil mixed in with the milk less if I also had some shredded coconut or maybe some coconut milk/cream mixed in too.

post #45 of 94

 Usually if I am making a smoothie it is summer so the coconut oil is melty. I drizzle it into the smoothie and yes it will leave teeny little particles once it gets cold but I guess I am weird and like them. I do sometimes add a bit of real unsweetened coconut to the smoothie too and it does make the oil bits less obvious.

 

 I guess I should introduce myself. I have been sitting between 205 pounds and 230 since I had my last baby....ALMOST 8 YEARS AGO! lol I had gotten down from 235 to 199 at one point using a very unnatural diet, you know one of the ones with packaged food you order online. I gained it all back during a very stressful 3 years. Now I am trying to lose again. I am currently on weight watchers. I know how to eat healthy and I prefer to feed my a traditional foods diet. My problem is portion control. Weight Watchers is helping me address that issue but I got sucked into that low fat mind set and it is driving me nuts because I know it is WRONG. I do some tweaks that make me feel better, like counting real butter as a healthy oil, and using real full fat cheeses most of the time. But like I said on occasion for the sake of "lowering points" I will make a recipe with some fat free crap :( Anyway now my mission is to try and find a way to find a middle ground between Weight Watchers and traditional foods/EFLF type eating, if there is a middle ground to be had. I hope you all don't mind me lurking around and reading what you are doing. I picked up some coconut oil last night and I am planning to add that to my day.

 

 I was wondering if any of you ladies has noticed a positive change in your skin from upping your fat intake? I lived in humid warm Florida for two years and now we are in Alabama, it is cold and dry right now and I feel like a dried up old pair of gator skin shoes. It does not matter how much I drink or how much lotion I use. It has to be a lack of fat!

post #46 of 94

Oh, yes! When I was vegan my skin was HORRIBLE!

 

Now that I eat meat and plenty of fat, my skin is lovely. It's a tad dry right now just because of the season, so I rub some oil (almond/jojoba/rose hip blend) on my body (mostly my face gets dry) to help with that. But, it's way better now than it used to be.

 

Thanks for sharing your story :) It's hard to flip that 'fat switch' completely to keep yourself from grabbing for the fat-free stuff. It's so hard when it seems everyone else things fat is bad! My mom is the worst!!

post #47 of 94
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I'll have to try the milk as a chaser, maybe that will help!  And yes, I don't think the flavoring helps mask the nastiness at all!  Probably does just make it worse.

 

Welcome, ghostlykisses! 

 

LL, thanks for sharing your story!  grouphug.gif

 

I'm trying to stay on the wagon :)  Some friends invited us over for dinner Friday (tacos), I didn't do too bad, but it seems like once I stray a little, it becomes easier to keep straying! 

post #48 of 94

 Just checking in, I still don't have my CLO yet that will happen on Thursday.  I was taking my CO melted in a small amount of freshly squeezed grapefruit juice, but it's a pain to squeeze juice all the time and melt CO so I've been putting a spoonful of CO in my mouth and swallowing it whole with some water like a big handfull of pills, can't recommend it to anyone unless you're really good at swallowing pills, but it's working for me.  I've also cheated for a couple days and am finally back on today.  I made peanut butter cookies with my 3 year old and it was all downhill from there for 2 days.  I guess I need to learn how to make some healthy cookies anybody have any recipes?  I notice If I eat something really sweet I crave sugary foods all day.

I do have some good news though I've lost 2 lbs smile.gif

post #49 of 94
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I've also cheated for a couple days and am finally back on today.  I made peanut butter cookies with my 3 year old and it was all downhill from there for 2 days.  I guess I need to learn how to make some healthy cookies anybody have any recipes?  I notice If I eat something really sweet I crave sugary foods all day.

I do have some good news though I've lost 2 lbs smile.gif


There's a recipe for cookies, I swear it's in NT, but as my copy hasn't arrived yet I can't be exactly sure on this.  Anyway, the cookies are almond meal based and I found them to be REALLY REALLY good.  I'm a cookieFREAK (it's my biggest weakness in avoiding grains), and these cookies that are almond meal (superfinely ground almonds - you can buy almond meal if you don't want to make it) based were SPECTACULAR. They may have had a bit of arrowroot in them as well.  If someone else can't get you the recipe I'll see if I can get it to you when my copy of NT arrives. Really good alternative, I thought, and if y'all already like peanut butter cookies, almond-based cookies shouldn't be too hard of a switch. ;)  Obviously, you can play with the amount of sweetener(s) in them as well (I can't remember if it used honey, Rapadura or maple syrup - probably MS though, since that's my favorite).

 

Congrats on the weight loss!

post #50 of 94

I have a copy of NT from the Library, so thats good to know the recipe is good thanks Brendalee.  The thought of maple syrup makes my mouth water yummy.

post #51 of 94

Hey CherryBomb, thanks for blogging about your journey.  I especially appreciated the honesty in your most recent post--as I expected, it's an expensive diet, both in terms of groceries and time expendeture.  I look forward to hearing about how your tweaks work out!

post #52 of 94

herent, the almond cookie recipe is on pg 528.  I think in the past I've made them both the way SF recommends (crispy nuts whirred into flour) & with prepackaged almond meal.  I also don't always include the lemon rind (in fact, I'm not sure I've EVER included it, tbh!) & I *KNOW* I've subbed at least half the called for Rapadura with maple syrup - maybe even a full sub, I can't remember. It *DOES* call for 1c of arrowroot or sprouted bulgur flour, though. :/ I think arrowroot is supposed to be pretty benign; I wonder if coconut flour would be a decent sub?

 

Speaking of Rapadura, I went to Whole Paycheck last night ;) and it seems they no longer carry Rapadura? Did they go out of business? What companies make a good substitute; which have just plain ol' dried pressed cane juice, not processed sugar with the molasses added back in?  I know Sucanat used to be good, but they sold out (so to speak), then Rapadura was good, and now...?  I also took a peek for bottles of Agave nectar, since I seem to recall enjoying that in my tea, but it's not available on the shelf anymore either.  That's of lesser importance (honey works fine & is actually better for my allergies anyway), but I was just curious.

 

I hate restarting from scratch!  It seems SO DARN EXPENSIVE because you have to buy the staples all over again.  *sigh* I'm just doing a few new staple items every month for now; I'm so far from rich it isn't even funny!

 

~Brendalee, who has some chicken stock simmering on the stove...

post #53 of 94
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Hey CherryBomb, thanks for blogging about your journey.  I especially appreciated the honesty in your most recent post--as I expected, it's an expensive diet, both in terms of groceries and time expendeture.  I look forward to hearing about how your tweaks work out!



Thank you!  LL commented and gave some suggestions, too :)  I had a pity party yesterday, and coffee this morning, I need to just buckle down and take a deep breath and figure it out :)

post #54 of 94

Regarding Rapadura vs. Sucanat, I don't recall all the details, but I believe WAP (Weston A. Price Foundation) recommended Rapadura over Sucanat, because Sucanat was being highly processed?  Whatever the case, it is my understanding that Sucanat has "changed its ways" and that now Rapadura and Sucanat are essentially the same thing--whole cane sugar.  In fact, the last Rapadura I bought from Rapunzel doesn't even say Rapadura on it, it just says"Whole Cane Sugar".  So maybe they aren't using that brand name any more?  I believe I found this info on the WAP website.

post #55 of 94

 How is everyone doing?

 

I have been doing ok. Adding more fat into my day seems to really help with my hunger. I am still working my weight watchers points. My only slip up was some processed snack cakes my lovely DH brought home last night. My hormones made me do it ;)

 

 I am hoping going back to eating more fat and traditional foods will bring back my energy. I have been so weary all the time.

post #56 of 94

GhostlyKisses, I hear ya about the hormones!  I have screwed up quite a few times, but I keep losing weight, so I must me doin something right.  I do notice if I mess up and eat something processed it makes me sick to my stomach, and I have only been TF for a couple weeks, I guess my body really knows what it needs.  My Mom does weight watchers and I can't convince her that eating fat will help you lose weight.  She thinks all fat is the same and everything has to be weighed for portion control, I think it's killin her that I'm losing weight, ha ha.

I just started my second batch of saurkraut  a couple days ago, it is really going fast, we love it, I add cumin and mustard seeds to ours, it turns out so good and a little spicey.  I did a batch of  pickled salmon from NT, but I'm not sure about it, I'm used to the salty, ACV type :(  I wonder if I add some raw ACV if it might give it the kick I need.  I also am going to be starting a batch of Kombucha in a couple days.  I did my own this last summer and I grew my scoby from some GT's, so I will be doing that this time too.

Brendalee, I have to get some Arrowroot and maple syrup, then and try the recipe :)  I gotta go my 3 year old DS needs some attention, he's slurping down on my GT's Kombucha Gingerade, he loves the stuff, but 3 bucks a bottle yikes, I don't wanna share!

post #57 of 94

I've made the almond/arrowroot cookies from NT before.  They're yummy, but I can never get the recipe to work as written.  I always need to add an egg. 

 

If you need sweets on the EFLF diet though, I would probably go for some of the coconut based ones out of EFLF itself!  At least you get some metabolism-revving coconut in there.  :)

 

I'm not exactly following EFLF, but I'm being inspired by it lately.  And I've made a few recipes from it that are fantastic!  I made some strawberry/blueberry shrub that's really tasty in seltzer.  The coconut shrimp with sweet/sour soy dipping sauce was a huge hit, as was the baked chicken with peanut/coconut sauce.  DH declared the chicken the best I've ever made (!!!).  I just made some more stock too and next up is the chicken coconut soup.

post #58 of 94
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Yes, that chicken with the peanut coconut sauce is awesome!!  Dh devoured it!

 

I'm having a hard time.  Throwing a pity party for myself!  I need to suck it up and get back on the wagon.  Sigh.  I don't know if my period is getting ready to start or what, but my emotions are all over the place and I've totally not followed the diet the last couple days.

post #59 of 94
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Yes, that chicken with the peanut coconut sauce is awesome!!  Dh devoured it!

 

I'm having a hard time.  Throwing a pity party for myself!  I need to suck it up and get back on the wagon.  Sigh.  I don't know if my period is getting ready to start or what, but my emotions are all over the place and I've totally not followed the diet the last couple days.


 CherryBomb, I have been the same way since Friday. My hormones went wacky and I am depressed about a situation in my life that I don't know how to fix. This is the first time I have "fallen off the wagon" weight loss wise since Thanksgiving. I even behaved at Christmas! Tomorrow is a new day though, back at it. I hope you will be too :)

post #60 of 94

Wow, I'm glad I found this thread. I got this book from amazon a couple weeks ago and bought some of the foods needed. I have been doing this half hearted.  I'm not sure I can go all out yet because I stay home with my 9 month old daughter during the day and go to school in the evenings. It makes planning and cooking meals hard. I do take the CLO and CO in the mornings. I have found a good way to take them is by chasing with a little juice. Don't take a breath between gulps. The smoothies are delicious and easy. I use stevia instead of maple syrup. I am researching sources for Raw Milk right now; I have found one that is organic, but I don't think grass fed. Isn't being grass fed very important?

 

Even though I haven't lost weight yet, one difference I have noticed (sorry if TMI) is that my libido has increased. Having PCOS and insulin resistance really messes with your sex hormones and I just never seem to be that into sex, but since I started taking CO and CLO, my husband is a lot happier, lol!

 

LunaLady: I'm sorry for your struggles. I too have insulin resistance and PCOS. It was hard for me to conceive; not quite sure what did it, I had recently lost 15 lbs on South Beach Diet and just started school so we stopped trying (very cliched, I know). One thing about your weight loss struggle; perhaps you are not eating enough calories, I know on the EFLF diet it recommends like over 2000 calories (which I struggle eating that much as well).

 

herent: I have not even told my mother about this! We fight about this stuff as well. She has struggled with eating disorders and has a very strong opinion about it being all about calories in/calories out, she drinks so much diet coke because "hey, it has no calories!" And she pushes me to give my daughter cheerios or other foods I don't want her to have yet (or ever!)

 

Have you all read the chapter about the Healing Diet? It was fascinating, especially because it has a section about insulin resistance and PCOS.

 

Wow, my reply seems to be all over the place! One more question, are you ladies exercising too? Those of us with insulin resistance, I believe exercise is so important for our weight loss and I am really trying to do it more. I go twice a week now to the gym, but I would really like to go 4 times a week.

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