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post #141 of 148
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Originally Posted by velochic View Post

First of all, Russia now is not NOT Russia during the upheaval and the beginning of democracy.  It's a completely different country.  Your dd had it EASY compared to the way life was when Yeltsin became president.  The months around the fall of the Soviet Union (August 1991) were nothing like most anyone here has ever experienced.  The few years following were the most painful the country has every experienced.  Thrown into democracy with no experience being democratic turned the country on its ear.  Also, I was there as a working adult, supporting myself.  I was not a student.  Another huge difference.

 

Secondly, I *didn't* adjust well.  It took a year and I became anemic and was undernourished from a lack of variety.  I lived off of bread and cheese for the first year.  Food was still government issued for a while after 1991.  I didn't have access to the foods you mention above.  Everything was new to me.  Eventually things like pasta became available, but not at first.  I was lucky to make a friend in my apartment that started to teach me how to cook.  It was cooking like I had never experienced before, and I still had to get used to the flavors.  It took a very long time.  I suffered for my lack of adaptability.

 

Nope, I did NOT adjust easily.  It was one of the most difficult things I ever did in my life.  And it wasn't just food that I had to adjust to.  I was a spoiled American.  That move really opened my eyes.  I've been back since then and Russia is completely different.  Life is easy there now.  No comparison between when I lived there in the early 90's and when your dd was there.  None.

 



I never said anything about the country being the same - that would be silly -  but you, as a working adult, had the ability to shop for and prepare the meals you wanted from the things that were available, limited though they may have been. Rain was there as a dependent child whose only option was to eat what her host family or school cafeteria prepared. Apparently you had regular access to cheese, anyway, which just for the record is something Rain rarely found where she was living last year, and when she did it was a particular kind of cheese that was like nothing she'd eaten before. It's a huge country, and what's happening today in Moscow and Petersburg isn't necessarily what's happening in the rest of it. I know she would have preferred bread and cheese to pasta and ketchup, anyway, and she did come back to me pale as a ghost (her whole group was) and unhealthy. No, she didn't have it easy, in more ways than food, but that's a whole other post.

 

It seems sort of ironic today that I took her to Tunisia for the next month and she was able to eat lots of good healthy Tunisian food and sit in the sun and get healthy again...

 

Maybe the real problem is that you went as a "spoiled American" and Rain didn't. She grew up understanding that we do what we can to help people out and make things better for them when we can, and deal with it when we can't. Being sensitive to a child's food preferences doesn't equal spoiling them.

 



Of course I'm giving our child-rearing techniques credit.  But like your ds, my dd did not even want to taste solids until she was over a year old.  She was still getting most of her nutrition from BM at nearly 2 yo and didn't wean until she was 4 (although the last 6 months were few nursings far between).  She was picky as hell her first couple of years.  You are saying your ds has a texture issue.  Therein lies the difference.  That is not what I would consider to be neurotypical.  That's a sensory integration issue.  My dd was just lazy - she has no sensory issues.  BM is sweet and was instantly available and that was her preference.  But once she started eating, I never fed her processed or fast food and the food she ate was not the same thing all the time (and she was exposed to world cuisine from the age of eating solids).  Heck yeah, I'm going to give my child raising technique credit.  I could have given her crap McDonalds all the time and she would have gotten used to the processed, salty, fatty food instead of healthy home-cooked, from scratch with lots of spices food.  She would have ended up picky.  The factor of her father's side of the family is that they live in a 3rd world country and have no luxury for pickiness.  It has nothing to do with genetics, it has to do with what's available.  And again, we're talking about kids who do NOT have sensory issues.


So, what about those of us who offered our kids a variety of foods and didn't do McDonalds and didn't wind up with 4 year olds who enjoyed new foods and would eat anything? Because I'd venture to say that a lot of us fall into that category... and I'm also throwing in a kid who was prone to meltdowns if she didn't eat, so not having a backup food that she would eat would have been basically setting her up for a crisis. I think you were lucky to end up with a kid who eats a variety of food without a fuss, but with one data point it's easy to assume that your good luck is because of something you did.

 

The thing with most kids in developing countries is that they don't eat a wide variety of foods - they generally eat the same things day after day, maybe changing a bit seasonally but basically the same, because that's what they have available. Actually, some of the aid programs have run into problems for exactly this reason - the food they've brought into countries isn't what the people are used to eating. 

post #142 of 148

I had to slightly giggle at all the refrences earlier to orange slices. I've hated those dumb strings and skins on oranges for as long as I can remember they taste super bitter to me DH says they are tasteless but I don't think so.

 SO the ONLY way I've even served an orange to my kids is by sectioning it which removes all skin and white stringy things I can section an orange in the same time it takes my DH to peel one. SO I dont do it cause I'm catering I do it cause it is how I happen to make it for ME. LOL

post #143 of 148
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Originally Posted by octobermom View Post

I had to slightly giggle at all the refrences earlier to orange slices. I've hated those dumb strings and skins on oranges for as long as I can remember they taste super bitter to me DH says they are tasteless but I don't think so.

 SO the ONLY way I've even served an orange to my kids is by sectioning it which removes all skin and white stringy things I can section an orange in the same time it takes my DH to peel one. SO I dont do it cause I'm catering I do it cause it is how I happen to make it for ME. LOL


lol.gif  They are super bitter!  I happen to like bitter, however.  Ds... not so much.  So I understand what he is tasting and that he doesn't like it.  It surprised me how many fruits have a bitter undertone once I started paying attention.  Plus some of them have tough parts and he doesn't like trying to swallow a glob of fiber.  It's really a multifactor thing with the taste, the gag reflex, and possibly teeth issues since he has had a lot of dental work and recently broke a tooth while eating (though maybe I should use the word concern, rather than "issue" since that seems to be loaded with extra connotations of diagnoses when I merely mean this definition: "a misgiving, objection, or complaint").  Running into a hard bit, like a small seed, is disturbing.  If it was just texture, he'd happily eat canned mandarin oranges, or those "cup of fruit" things.  But he thinks they have a strange flavor and I have to agree with him.

post #144 of 148

my rule is : eat it or don't.

 

 DSD wont eat anything with a vegetable in it on it or near it (and I'm a vegetarian) so we had this fight a lot. in the end i ended up pretty much cutting out all snacks and very rarely is their desert at all because i didn't like how it turned out to be a tit for tat with the veggies eaten but only if there was desert.

 

 if you don't eat what i make you can wait until the next meal. 

 

 I do always offer cereal for breakfast because i know she will eat that so at least she eats once a day but often she chooses to skip lunch and dinner. I just repeat to my self "eat it or don't"  & "she'll grow out of it"

post #145 of 148

If the kids won't eat what's for dinner, they can have an apple and a peanut butter sandwich.

post #146 of 148

My kids are EXTREMELY picky, to the point you would all be shaking your heads and clucking your tongues.

 

The alternatives we offer cannot require much, or any, effort from me if I have already cooked. 

 

cereal with milk (rice krispies, cheerioes, corn flakes, nothing ultra sweetened)

plain homemade (white) bread that is always on hand

slice of cheese

piece of fruit

any non-dessert leftover that is lying around (I might heat up homemade pizza after I am done eating)

when we had a working toaster-- toast

veggies (most don't eat them)

 

We tend to always have homemade dessert on hand so there are times they sneak that in, instead of something non-dessert, if I am not paying attention.

 

crackers, apples, yogurt all day doesn't sound bad.

 

I am a very picky eater too and I regress during times of stress-- right now I have eaten the same thing for every meal for nearly a month and it doesn't look like I'm going to change any time soon.  It's fairly healthy with the exception of including the homemade white bread. 

post #147 of 148

Our recent alternative has been a sandwich or cereal that my stepdaughter makes herself. I work more than full time, my husband's running for office, and we have a 6-month-old. We do not have time to cater to her pickiness (which, she is neurotypical and does not have textural issues--I think it's mostly peer pressure and control issues), nor do we want to be eating nothing but pizza and macaroni all weekend and all summer.

 

And what happened this weekend? She refused to eat anything we served (we made a shrimp stir fry, rice, and pineapple, and she didn't even touch the rice or pineapple), AND she refused to make anything herself. (She's 8, not sick, injured, or otherwise disabled. She's capable.) So, she went hungry, and started demanding her dad make her macaroni and cheese right before bedtime. He refused, told her she could get herself a small bowl of cereal if she was hungry, and she grumbled about liking Mom better and decided to moan about starving to death. This repeated all weekend. I'm not sure what else we could have done.

 

We're down, pretty much, to white carbs, ground beef, and tomato sauce, but not if there are any chunks in it. "Pick them out." "No, YOU pick them out. I didn't ask for them in the first place."

post #148 of 148

I used to be a short order cook for my family, but now..I tell them if they want something different, they have to make it themselves..meaning PBJ sandwich or bowl of cereal.

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