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Fellow MWSBers--I read up a little more about the closing on the BabyCenter thread, since they've been freaking out about it over there. Figured I'd share what the consensus is: It looks like it's expected to last about 8 weeks and then they will re-open, hopefully in early April (although there's no date set, so who knows). Apparently if you pre-pay for vials by Monday they will still ship them out while they are closed, except between 2/21 and 3/2 because Joanne will be on vacation. Also at the moment they are out of tanks because there's a wee bit of a run on the bank. The posters over there are calling it Sperm Black Wednesday, which I think is hilarious. But if you're going to need vials later on (ie: not this week) and can prepay for them it looks like you'll still be able to get them. I, of course, will not, because I am pregnant (until proven otherwise) but if I do I'm going to be calling on Monday to order a couple for Feb. We'll be out in March anyway, so at least there's only one month to worry about.

Mami--there's some folk wisdom that eating a whole, fresh pineapple (including the core, one fifth per day) for the first 5 days or so after you insem can help with implantation. I've been doing it, mostly because every time I go to the grocery store at the beginning of the TWW there's a dollar sale on pineapple (Lisedea--do you think I could ship you one? Not that you'll need it, since it sounds like things are already at work in there! smile.gif )

Seraf--I don't know--it all sounds so refreshingly straightforward in some ways.

Library--Jeez, can't you pregnant ladies catch a break? I hope that stopping the iron helps, but that you don't get all droopy again. I liked the idea of you perking up when you started those pills, just like my philodendron...

Indigo--that was such a charming post--I didn't understand a word of it but it reminded me of sitting in a cafe listening to brazilians talking at a table nearby and only catching every fifth word...

Max, Starling, AMom--symptoms? Here's one for you: two brothers of eastern european descent are walking in the forest when a pair of grizzlies jump out of the trees. The larger, male bear quickly devours one of the men. The brother screams for help and is quickly joined by a forest ranger who says, 'which one did it?' The brother, still frazzled, points to the larger bear at which point the ranger turns and shoots the smaller female. 'What?! Why did you do that?' the brother cries. "I said it was the other one!" incredulous, the ranger says, 'I never believe anyone who says the Czech is in the male."

AFM--same ol', same ol'. Actually slightly fewer symptoms than usual, which is giving me all kinds of false hope. Had a nice chat with my insurance, though. Still on our own for the next IUI, but after that it looks like they'll pay for pretty much everything except the sperm itself (and freezing embryos, if we get to that point), so that's reassuring. The nurse who does the preapprovals for fertility stuff is such a sweetie. We even chatted for a while about the Twiblings that have been in the news. Still, I hope that the only other time I have to talk to her is when I call to tell her I'm preggo and don't need approval after all.
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So much activity, it's hard to keep up! We need a BFP, people. Someone yell BINGO!!!!

 

For all of your MWSBanker lovers, if you're choosing and shipping, I encourage you to try out the California Sperm Bank in Berkeley. They're snotty as heck but they have some awesome sperm and they are one of the first to be opened for lesbians specifically (many, many years ago). We had great numbers with the three donors that we tried when we were first doing IUIs.

 

AFM: I having a major quandry on IVF clinics. I love the one in Portland but my Fertility Support group (with TONS of IVFers) is trying to convince me to stay nearby since it's such a toll to begin with and having to travel would make it harder. But the stats are so good for the clinic up in Portland. I'm going to meet with one here in the Bay Area that comes highly recommended but...I don't know what to do! It feels like my one shot at potential success and I want to get it just right. I've heard of so many women that didn't do any research and just chose something close to home only to wind up with a lot of money out of pocket and no baby...

 

My temps keep creeping up but I feel like I can't trust anything. It looks perfectly triphasic yet I feel like I have PMS. Sticking Progesterone up my cootch certainly doesn't help the SICH-YOU-WAY-SHUN! 9DPO. AF expected Saturday or Sunday.

 

Krista

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TSBC "snotty as heck" that's hysterical!  We worked with them for a total of about 4 years and they are very, well, Berkeley.  I think (though I might be wrong) that they are also non profit and they also have lower limits on the numbers of families who can have kids with a given donor.  Which I liked.  And so many of their donors are little smarty pants college boys.  Which, I have to admit, was a little creepy when I taught at Cal!

 

Krista, if you are thinking about going out of town for IVF, which a lot of people do, definitely consider Colorado Center for Reproductive Medicine.  They have some of the highest success rates in the country.  I believe our nurse said that over half of their clients were from out of state.  I first heard about them when we lived back in the bay area on Berkeley Parents Network where people raved about them.  And I kept thinking, wow, this place must be great if people leave the bay area to go there!  So check them out and check out the recommendations on BPN.  I felt much as you do, like we didn't have much money to do this whole IVF thing, so we pretty much had to get it right the first time, thus our switiching our clinic from a university associated clinic to CCRM (because of their success rates and rave reviews.) 

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Haha, thanks Isa...but I think it is too late. Next time (if there is one!) I might take you up on that...smile.gif Thanks for the info from BabyCenter...I am also considering calling on Monday to order sperm since I plan on testing then. The only thing is that I don't have any pregnancy tests yet--and I need to order them online or go into the med center because I don't DARE buy them here at the grocery store...it would spread like wildfire!

AmandaMom...as I just said, I plan on testing Monday @ 10dpo. What about you??

Ugg...still totally upset by the fact that MWSB is closing...I wish I would have known sooner--but SO glad that I tried this cycle instead of waiting! Whew!
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Ugg...FF changed her idea of when I ovulated. So instead of 6dpo I am at 3dpo?? I am fed up with this cycle....
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Okay, I'm about to do personals, but I just had to share this because it actually made me cry this morning. So sweet.

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SharriKit~ Hooray for good timing!  Lordy, how many Ladies in Waiting do we have right now???

 

 

Gelly~ HOORAY for insurance company victories!!! I'm so glad you'll be able to move forward from here!   I'm also tickled by the fact that your phone autocorrected to say Handel. So, we have Handel and Ibsen, quite an erudite board!!  Also, I agree that your dog is adorable.

 

 

Lise~ What a crazy cycle! But do YOU feel like FF is more correct, or do you think you had the signs before you did the insem? The CM and cervical position etc kind of signs?  FF can be kind of capricious, and it's best to trust your instincts about your own body.  I still have everything crossed for you, and fully believe you're preggo until proven otherwise.

 

 

Krista~ You really are a fierce advocate, and I think really inspiring in the fight to take charge of our own bodies. Good for you! I wonder if there's something like a TTC doula, where you can really be there for women who are trying to fight against REs and insurance companies etc. You'd be awesome at that. Indeed, you already are. Thanks for being such a source of wisdom and inspiration!

 

 

AMom~ How are you feeling?  When are you testing? Have you been drinking your sangria smoothies biggrinbounce.gif?  I'm fully expecting a wave of BFPs very soon!

 

 

Isa~ I'll ask you the same questions I just asked AMom!  I hear you about just wanting the angst over with, but believe me, the angst just switches gears!!  Next thing you know, you're worrying about TOXIC MEGACOLON (sorry, but that just doesn't stop making me laugh.)

 

Mami~ Sorry if someone's already answered this, but eating fresh pineapple, especially the core, up to 5 or 6 dpo helps with implantation. It's also a yummy treat!!

 

Carmen~ Ugh about waiting for AF.  Sometimes that's the hardest part...  Still, you can look at the cutie face of your little gal, that should help!

 

 

AFM~ Not much.  Still taking my antibiotics, still not taking the iron pills. Feeling much better all around.  DP's father, who is Portuguese, called her yesterday (on skype) and talked to her for over an hour about how the list of officially recognized Portuguese names was REALLY a VERY good source of baby names, and proceeded to read much of the list to her, telling her why each name was good. He was even suggesting names that are actually in the family, like the name of DP's sister and aunt and cousin. I had to laugh because DP was getting so irritated with him she started sending me surreptitious texts about how he was driving her crazy!. Then later my mom called to ask if we'd decided on a name and to remind me that Sophie was a GREAT name for a girl, and that it doesn't matter if it's really popular because once they get out of high school, no one will even notice.  I think we'll just start telling people that we've actually decided to name her Aspidistra and that they can just lay off! 

 

 

 

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carmen, i hope af comes to visit you soon!!  dp is on her 4th pp cycle and so far they have been very steady at 31/32 days and ovulation around cd17/18.  i hope yours return like that too.  can you believe our babies are a year old now?  yikes! 

 

seriously with all the ladies in the tww now, we deserve AT LEAST one or two bfps.  come on babies!! :)

 

g

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Another little update on the MWSB drama - this was posted on baby center 2 hours ago: "I had done some research about this reorganization and it is a chapter 11 bankruptcy for small businesses.I talked with Joanne and asked her if they filed for chapter 11 and she said yes but she knew nothing about it, until the last minute and that she is just as upset as we all are. I asked her does it mean your closing your doors for good, since with chapter 11 is only for repayment of your debts and not total bankruptcy. She stated to me that they were not closing their doors for good and that she was told for sure and that it was up to the medical director and owners.  She said that it was on both companies the sperm bank and their fertility clinic.  She said the last day to sell any vials would be the 31st because after that people have to come in and work on the books and they are doing away with the donors that have not produced any pregnancies or not very many."

Someone else also posted that Joanne told them it could be 2-3 months or it could be a year - she didn't know. 

 

Library - Lincoln Square/Ravenswood is a fantastic area! I'm actually there(here) right now! I think my band, TOXIC MEGACOLON should open for your band, Artificial Ibsen - we would rock the house. Oh, and that video you posted this morning - made me cry! Too sweet!

 

Tea - WELCOME! You're in the right place!!!

 

Max - I am getting my Masters in Community Counseling - I hope to one day work with gay and lesbian couples trying to have kids. I would love to form counseling groups for those ttc and also those who are already parents to discuss the challenges and struggles. This is actually a newer development career-wise brought on by my own process as well as reading about everyone else - do you think people would take advantage of these types of groups if they had a chance? Here's another joke for you - what's brown and sticky? A stick! orngbiggrin.gif

 

Gelly - I just noticed that you're in Ottawa - that is where job #2 was located! We are now relieved because that would have been a shitty commute.So happy to hear that you got your insurance worked out!!! YAY!!! joy.gif

 

Krista - you are amazing! I agree with everyone else, you should totally do this as a career!

 

Lisedea - my DP is from MI - we go there all the time! Got married in Saugatuck :) UGH fertility friend is not being a friend - but you're pregnant so what does she know.

 

AMF - Well this whole Midwest debacle really got me down yesterday. I feel like I have wasted so much time! I was definitely an anger ball for awhile but then just had to let it go - we'll just switch - it's really not that big of a deal in the long run, right? Nicki sent me a very sweet text in the middle of my wallowing which said "everything happens for a reason, right? We are going to get a perfect baby and he/she will be worth all of the BS we have to go through along the way". So true. She's a good one. Still waiting to hear about the other job - should be today actually - I'm really, really nervous. Unfortunately if this one doesn't work out we may have to push our ttc timeline back which would break my heart. This job market really, really sucks for brand new attorneys. 

 

Can't wait to hear about all the BFP's that are headed this way - so exciting!!!!

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I use MWSB too and I'm really upset about this.  I'm bummed they didn't send letters to their clients and handle this more appropriately. It won't matter because I'm totally PUPO.  Someone asked about my chart: it is http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/307e81.

 

In general I'm SUPER irritable.  I am usually not like this so I don't know what to do with it.  af.gif

 

I am crappy at personals (since I'm so new and don't know you all yet) but I did want to say GL to all those in 2ww and thanks for supporting this newbie.  

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Library--I actually don't feel like either date that FF gave me was accurate smile.gif...I think it was in between (around day 17...) WIth this being my first cycle after the m/c, I am not surprised that it is a messed up as it is...but it is still frustrating.

MrsPP--Where in Michigan? Is your DP from Saugatuck? I went to college in Holland so I would visit there all the time...grew up in Shelby (the one on the west side of the state) and lived in Grand Rapids and Kalamazoo (where I met Danielle!) for awhile. Now I live way, way up north.

Kit--Thanks for the link to your chart! Do you want it linked on the page? I don't know how to do it...but Isa does! smile.gif And....I am so upset about this Midwest thing too...I can't wait a year and am unwilling to switch...well, at least until I get desperate. Hopefully I am already pregnant so this doesn't matter...but realistically know that my timing was way off. (Anyone heard of frozen sperm living for 2 days??? wink1.gif) Boo!

Ok...so I guess I am moving backwards and going to go with the 3DPO like FF says (for testing purposes only! smile.gif) I've been wearing my fertility necklace all week...in replace of the pineapples. smile.gif

 

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Originally Posted by indigoscot View Post

carmen, i hope af comes to visit you soon!!  dp is on her 4th pp cycle and so far they have been very steady at 31/32 days and ovulation around cd17/18.  i hope yours return like that too.  can you believe our babies are a year old now?  yikes! 

 

seriously with all the ladies in the tww now, we deserve AT LEAST one or two bfps.  come on babies!! :)

 

g


I hope so! Thanks for the encouragement :) I really don't think it will come back until I nightwean or go back to work. And I don't go back to work until July now (I extended my leave) and nightweaning scares me quite honestly...I'm assuming it will NOT go well.

 

Happy Birthday to your little one :D

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Lise—I’m hoping this is it for all of us and we can just relax! I have a fertility necklace, too—but if it doesn’t work this time I’m giving up on it. It’s boring to wear the same one every day, even if I do love it.

Library—you have to name her Alice now because of the shower. Surely everyone will understand. Also, I have a Brazilian friend named Alice (A-lise-eh) and she gets on just fine.

Sharri—I added your chart to the front page—it’s looking good so far!

Carmen—my friend is weaning now and for some reason with them the night feedings were the easiest to go. Her DD screams like a banshee all day long when she doesn’t get to nurse, though. Good luck—it’s totally a rollercoaster! I always feel bad because when I show up she’s always in this instantly great mood (friends! Visitors!) so my friend feels like no one believes her. But we can hear her through the floor when we’re upstairs…

AFM—still totally bummed about this Midwest thing. I don’t know if I should A. hope I’m pregnant so I can skip it (but then what about getting vials for possible siblings?), B. test so I can find out that I’m not so we can get in an order before Monday for our #2 donor (see issue with choice A.) or C. give up on them entirely and get started with a different bank, which sucks because of the cost/stress factor. Ugh. I guess there was never any guarantee that we’d be able to get multiple babies with the same donor anyway, but I would still really prefer it.
So, a highly selfish QOTD: should I test tomorrow and be able to buy more vials for another round, or is that jinxing it?
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Isa - Highly selfish answer to your QOTD: yes, by all means you should test! Inquiring minds want to know! winky.gif But really, I say do what you feel. After our freak out we decided to just switch to another bank because of the whole possible siblings thing - and what if something like this happens again, you know? Nicki said that chapter 11 literally does mean "reorganization" of funds. We think when/if they do reopen the prices will be higher. If you're interested we've been looking at Northwest Cryo and I already found a guy that I fell into a deep, deep like with. They seem really friendly, there are not too many forms to fill out, they will ship to your house and they don't require a doctors signature (which was a total plus for us!). It's just a crappy situation all around - BUT you're pregnant so you shouldn't worry too much orngbiggrin.gif

 

Lisedea - she's from Grand Rapids! We chose Saugatuck 1) for the gay factor and 2) because it is *kind of* in between GR and Chicago. The Chicago folks had a bit of a longer drive but everyone loved it and thought it was just the cutest little town - which it is! The city people really loved the quaintness of it all. 

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Pretty how long has it been sense you O , could you get a blood test it would show a postive way sooner

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MrsP~ We will ROCK SUPREME!! And anyone who can show us a peed-on OPK gets in free!!!  Any news about the job? Everything crossed for you!

 

SharriKat~ That's a great looking chart!!!  Here's hoping you've been successful this time 'round.

 

 

Lise~ Hugs for a frustrating cycle.  Still, it only takes one swimmer, I'm hoping someone obeyed orders and made it up there do do their job!

 

 

Isa~ I'm really leaning towards Alice anyway, it's true. And that's on the Portuguese list, so maybe Carlos will approve!  As for testing, will the closing sperm bank give you refunds if you pre-order and then don't need it?  I'm sorry to everyone who's going through trouble with this place. I can't imagine what a nightmare it must be!!

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Hi Everyone,

MWSB Folks: I'm sorry you're all having to deal with that! This process is hard enough without dealing with difficult banks. hug.gif

Isa: I would say test. It could be useful to know if you need to order more sperm. Although if you get a negative, you won't really know for sure yet, since it is still early. Hmm...

Carmen: I'm envious that you were able to take a year and a half off in maternity leave! I hope AF shows up for you soon.

Lisedea: I'm sorry that FF is giving you a hard time. I hope your fertility necklace does the trick!

SharriKitColorado: I'm sorry you're feeling so irritable. I hope you feel better soon!

MrsPP: Any job news? fingersx.gif The first sperm bank I tried didn't work out for me either (it is tiny, and basically closing down), and now I am VERY happy that I ended up at TSBC instead.

Library: I'm glad you're feeling ok without the iron. It's exciting that you have so many people who care about what you name the baby!

Cejae: I'm with you on loving that TSBC is the only non-profit bank in the country AND that they have lower family limits than just about anyone else. AND they give more information than many banks in terms of counts and such. I'm a fan.

Krista: Temps creeping up sounds like a great sign! fingersx.gif

Graceie: I'm glad that you're feeling positive about waiting for next month. Hopefully your timing will be perfect then!

AmandaMom: I have everything crossed for you! fingersx.gif

Seraf: Always good to remember why we're glad not to be cows. orngtongue.gif

Max: I'm so glad that the progesterone isn't giving you a hard time so far. I'm keeping my fingers and toes firmly crossed! fingersx.gif

Mami: I'm glad the insems went well!

Teamusery: Welcome! It sounds like you've gotten a lot of good advice already.

Starling: It sounds like you're having good symptoms. I'm keeping my fingers and toes firmly crossed for you. What else can I cross? My eyes? My legs? I'll do it! fingersx.gif

Wishin: Still sending you big hugs. hug.gif Why the wait until June?

AFM: I had a snow day today--my first of the season! It was EXACTLY what I needed. orngbiggrin.gif

 

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Quiet day today~ How are all our waiters feeling?  New insems? 

 

Hope everyone is fine and having some sunshine, no matter where they are x

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I think we're all a little burned out from yesterday.

AFM, I'm a little bummed. Did a test this morning and...BFN. So i sent in my forms to Northwest to get started with their swimmers, photomatching, etc. Since DP and I were ready to switch to a new donor anyway the emotional attachment isn't too strong, but I hate having to pay an extra $250/month for the same damn thing. Oh well, they do seem really nice over there and I'm excited about the possibility of getting a willing-to-be-known donor (I've been working on the theory that if our kid really wanted us to find out about an unknown one that we'll be able to track him down somehow, but this would make that step easier, for sure). We thought about going back to midwest for one more shot (they would refund the money, I think) but decided that we didn't want to do that, get pregnant, and then spend the next year worrying that they won't be open to sell us more vials for kid #2. Plus, all the young guys are moving to Washington, so they've got to have a good selection pool out there, right?

The weird thing is that I haven't really been having any PMS symptoms. My boobs are just the teeniest bit sore, but none of the bloating, cramps, or general bitchiness (not to mention despondency) that I usually get. slight temp dip this morning, but still well above the coverline. Weird. I guess I'll know by Monday for sure (today is either 12 or 13DPO depending on whether you believe me or FF). And I'm drinking on Sunday, just to show who's boss around here. So there.
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Yes...it is very slow today. Maybe everyone is feeling the same way I am today...just blah. I am feeling down about the bad timing of my insem, the closing of Midwest, and trying to figure out where our next step is (and when it will be). BUT...the sun is out and we definitely haven't seen her around in a very long time!coolshine.gif

 

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