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post #41 of 196
Dmitrizmom-- jaw.gif indeed! I'd rewrite it as short answer and possibly also take off 10% because it's not ok to look at the test and then decide you haven't studied enough. Once you sit down to take the test, you need to take the test or forfeit. I'd probably add a line to my syllabus along the lines of "once you start a test, you have committed to finishing the test and accepting the score you receive."

Carita--kerc is right. Just start doing your dissertation if you want it done. I'd probably say no to the conference unless it literally involves a chapter of your diss (preferably one you haven't written yet), especially considering that you sound pretty strapped for time.

I need to take kerc's advice too. I had a good week where I dedicated myself to writing 5 sentences on my article each day, and then we got hit by the snow days and the sick days (first R, then me) and more cold and it all gave me great excuses but it didn't get the article finished. I'm going to start this week with a renewed commitment.

On the student who turned in late work: I do state it, somewhere, I think. It's the online class so I don't personally write the syllabus, as we have several sections, but I think I edited mine to say something along those lines. What should help is that there's a week-long grace period on each assignment and after that it closes so students can't submit it anymore--which should signal that I'm no longer accepting assignments at that point. My classroom syllabus does state it, but won't do me any good in this situation.

At any rate, he emailed and I explained that we don't accept work that's three weeks late, and I ended up telling that to another student who tried to submit too. Haven't heard anything yet so hopefully it's done.
post #42 of 196

Dmitirizmom - I would give her a zero (i.e. grade the exam she turned back in), but I would also ask her to come talk to you about a fair way to make this up.  She needs to know that her behavior is completely unacceptable and it is completely within your rights to give her no credit.  Perhaps together you could come up with a viable solution (essay exam, etc.), but I wouldn't offer it up unless she comes to discuss it with you.  Is it possible she was headed to a funeral or something and was in some emotional distress?  There are reasons other than cheating that a student would do this, but you won't know unless she comes to talk with you about it.

 

Carita - if you need someone to "report back to" on writing every day, feel free to send me a PM.  I have writing to do, too and could use some peer pressure at times.

post #43 of 196

Dmitriz - everyone is nicer than me, I would grade what she turned in and give it back. No option to retake it.

 

Carita, I'm writing kind of. I finished a manuscript a year ago and gave it to a colleague to add what he needed. He did not add anything, it has been a full year. Last Friday I contacted an editor and asked if I could submit it. He said, yes, get it in quickly. It has been a week and I have not done anything. I need to carve some time out of my schedule to go through it and edit it to make changes in the scope since the colleague did not write what he was going to write.

post #44 of 196

kaybee - she was going with her mom to see an aunt out of state who has been ill, so there may have been some emotional issues going on.  either way, I will be waiting for her to come and see me - she needs to talk to me to let me know what her thought process was.

 

Realrellim - I do believe that I will be adding a bit in my syllabus about exam completion.  Putting it on my to do list for the next set of syllabi I am working on. :) Thanks!

post #45 of 196

I'd be totally all in for a MDC prof mom writing group.  I've been doing just well enough to decide I shouldn't do the $50/month for the writing club, but I need to do better.

 

I'm a hard a$$ about things like taking tests and being honest.  Dmitriz, what kind of school are you at?  That top-down policy is new to me.

 

And I don't think I've reported back here -- I have a letter from my dean recommending tenure to the provost.  Phew. 

 

And I need to get off my tush to get the Duluth trip scheduled....  I'm so late, and my excuses are bad.  Sigh.

post #46 of 196
Thread Starter 

Oh yeah -  so we'd have a couple mamas on board for a writing group.  IDK how this thing works, but I'll start a new thread if you think we need it.  And i figured out I can get to read MDC on tapatalk, but I can't post or sub yet. 

 

So I am thinking that the time I use the most inefficiently usually is the 45 min void between pumping after class and my lunch meeting at noon.  but teaching 3 classes back to back to back leaves my brain mush.  i could try to get in super early... ugh.  30 min/day, right?  i can do this...

post #47 of 196
I'd be in for a writing group!
post #48 of 196

Today's writing:

 

So far - rewrote Grad Student's abstract, still needs work.

 

Will do before heading home - rewrite remaining highlighted sentence in GS's introduction and tackle his discussion section, minimum of 20 minutes of focused attention on the discussion.

 

Goal:  Get paper back to GS by the end of Tuesday.

post #49 of 196
Thread Starter 

Gah:  you caught me!

 

Today's writing: nothing yet.  I did grade quizzes.

 

Goal: Input calc grades right now and squeeze in 30 min computer work. On my mark, get set..., NOW

post #50 of 196

Writing Club

post #51 of 196
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Originally Posted by Dmitrizmom View Post

I have a situation with a student that I'm not sure how I'm going to handle...  The student asked to take an exam early as she had a family obligation out of town.  I said ok. (Departmental policy says if a student asks, in advance, about a make up, they are to be allowed. If the exam is made up before the test date - no penalty.  If the student makes it up after the test day, within 5 days, a penalty may apply).  I wrote two versions of the exam (one for her, one for the rest of the class).  She went to the testing center to take the exam early, got into the testing room with the exam, spent 10 minutes with it.  She then went back out to the attendant and said that she didn't have enough time to take the exam and didn't know enough of the material to take the exam.... and that she'd come back another time to take the exam. jaw2.gif  The test center attendant took the exam and sent it back to me.  Honestly, there is a part of me that would love to just give her a zero - she had the exam in her possession for 10 minutes - long enough to read the questions, and to me it is cheating.  Part of me says let her take the exam with a 10- 20% penalty.  Part of me says to rewrite the exam as all short answer and essay, then let her take it without a percent deduction.  Option 1 probably wouldn't fly well with administration.  Option 2 and 3 would fall within acceptable limits. I'm pretty sure that even with the sneak peek and the extra days to study that she won't pass, but that's not really the point.  It is an academic dishonesty issue.  And I'd live to prevent efforts of this type in the future (even if it does give me a rep as a tough instructor).  So, what would you ladies do?


Me? I'd grade what she gave me. Why wouldn't the Option 1 fly? You sent the exam to the testing center for her to take, she spent time with it, turned it in blank and you got it back blank. That's a zero.

 

Then, look up your institutions academic honesty policy and use that to argue against the administration if they want you to do something different.

post #52 of 196

Ok.   I had the opportunity with my group lead this morning and talked with her about the student and test.  Seems that I was given faulty information about procedure from another instructor (also in department).  Student will be getting the points that she earned on the exam. No retake, no appeal.  And my group lead completely has my back on this.  thumb.gif  Lesson to me: talk to group lead first.  Oh, and the school is a community college.

post #53 of 196

WWYD?

I just found out that one of my colleagues in my dept put together a group (not including me) to study the exact same thing I have been studying for 3 years. I am angry. Yes, everyone has a right to do research on whatever but I have two graduate students focused on the topic. They don't have any funding yet. But I have been freely sharing my ideas and progress with him. He has used the data that i have painstakenly gather to put together his own group. HMMMPFF....

post #54 of 196
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WWYD?

I just found out that one of my colleagues in my dept put together a group (not including me) to study the exact same thing I have been studying for 3 years. I am angry. Yes, everyone has a right to do research on whatever but I have two graduate students focused on the topic. They don't have any funding yet. But I have been freely sharing my ideas and progress with him. He has used the data that i have painstakenly gather to put together his own group. HMMMPFF....


Wow - that is so completely beyond ethical norms, I'm not sure how I would respond.  This is just so wrong on so many levels.  Is this something you could discuss with the chair?  Or someone else in the group?  Or the bastard himself?  Are your data published already? 

 

I don't have much advice unfortunately, and my mastery of angry, irritated smilies is not so good.  

 

I have been working in a rather contentious research area recently, and it has made me much more paranoid about sharing ideas and data freely, at least on certain subjects and with certain people. 

post #55 of 196

I talked to my DH to try and figure out what to do. I think the best thing to do is to say something like

"XXXX told me that you assembled a group consisting of XXX, XXX, and XXXX. Please remember that the data from XXXXX company are proprietary and can not be shared with other members of your team or displayed at any meeting or conference. I agreed to these terms and you must also abide by these terms." That way he knows that I know and it gives him a chance to explain himself.

post #56 of 196
Thread Starter 

How rude!  I can't believe it!  I mean I can see people working on similar things, but its just so weird that he didn't include you on anything.  I admit I am paranoid too.  I worry about this all the time with DHs research in particular.  Not from within his dept but from outside. 

post #57 of 196
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Originally Posted by namaste_mom View Post

I talked to my DH to try and figure out what to do. I think the best thing to do is to say something like

"XXXX told me that you assembled a group consisting of XXX, XXX, and XXXX. Please remember that the data from XXXXX company are proprietary and can not be shared with other members of your team or displayed at any meeting or conference. I agreed to these terms and you must also abide by these terms." That way he knows that I know and it gives him a chance to explain himself.


imo good strategy.

 

post #58 of 196

crazy week here:

 

Yesterday: first day in my job (I've been here 2 years as an adjunct and 1/2 year as a tt prof) when i actually thought I might be doing it for more than the pay and benefits. That's huge. Maybe the geology mojo will follow. I did plan a very geology intensive summer vacation (first geology intensive one in about 5 years). Cross your fingers that the mojo comes back in full force. I'm pretty sure the isotope geologist is long-gone though.

 

Today: lots of running around mainly due to meeting a student at 1pm. Student didn't show. grrr. But I did get my official notice from the provost's office: I have a job for next year.

 

post #59 of 196
kerc--yay for a job next year, and fingers crossed for the mojo. If you find it, can you send me some musicology mojo? It is seriously lacking, though I blame whiny babies and screaming 6yos for that.

I am so ready for spring break. Happily, it starts next week (for me, not R, whose is the week after that).
post #60 of 196

Kerc - yea for good news about a job next year.  sorry to hear that the student didn't show - very annoying.

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