my 5 year old daughter is still pooping her pants please help me out? - Page 2

[Niki Rose]

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[rabbitmum]

I posted this about six months ago... well, now we are back to square one for about the hundreth time. We have bought a child toilet seat for home, too, apart from that we are no further. I am glad to see that we are not the only ones who have tried "everything" and feel this frustration.

Originally Posted by rabbitmum 

We had the same problem with our DS until very recently. He is almost five. For over two years he would use the toilet if he wasn't wearing trousers, but poop in them if he was wearing any. He didn't seem to believe that it was possible for him to change this. We finally figured out that he found the toilet uncomfortable to sit on, and bought him a comfy potty chair, and also a child toilet seat for using at kindergarten, where they only have an ordinary grown-up toilet. This led to a break-through.

Before that we tried everything we could think of, including rewards (which we were not happy with, but willing to try out of desperation), letting him sit on the toilet at specific times of the day (after meals), making sure he drank lots, giving him lots of smoothies with crushed linseeds... trying not to let him notice how desperate and sick of it we were getting!

Btw my sister's daughter refused to use the toilet until she was five, when suddenly she was ok with it and started using it without any problems.

Good luck! :)

[gnutter]

I went through this with my middle son. I really thought it was just something I had done wrong in the potty trining phase. He was the hardest of my boys to potty train. With him it just came down to being to busy with whatever he was doing to go to the bathroom. I finally purchased a video game player that could only be used while pooping on the potty. It could not leave the bathroom at all. It was a L max educational toy-suddenly pooping was a lot more interesting. Especially since it was the only video game he ever got to play LOL. He wa salmost 6 before it was totally under control though. Happy news is that he is 11 now and those days are long gone. So just remember that it will end. I second the idea to use a liner in the underwear to make clean up easier-and have her help with the clean up. she can take her pants outside and rinse them with the hose-or something. I also purchased some flushable wipes for a while-it seemed his poop stuck to him a lot and toilet paper was uncomfortable for him until he really got to where he was getting on the potty before he pooped at all.

[jtbuko]

Just popping back in to let folks know it really can get better! DD is on a pooping where she's supposed to roll :) No wisdom or advice to with the encouragement - it just seems she finally learned to listen to her body's signals. Good luck to all. I know it is hard on kids and parents.

[aschmied]

My almost 4 year old DS is in this too!  Man, is it frustrating.  I lot of people were suggesting the potty sits.  I tried this for a couple of months with DS, but even if we sat there for 30 minutes, he almost NEVER pooped.  He tends to poop when bent over - hands and knees, bent over the tire swing, chest on a chair, I have tried a couple of times to hold a potty under him in that position, but he doesn't like it.   It's clear that we are likely in for a long haul. 

Those of you that use diapers as an occasional backup for the older child, what do you use? DS is a big kid, he's in 5T clothes, and diapers are usually too small.  They rip getting them up him!

[jtbuko]

At one point we got DD a Nature's Platform. I don't know if it really helped or not, but the concept sounds good and at the time we were ready to try anything. We were able to find a used on through a local crunchy yahoo group.

For bigger kid cloth we tried Drymids and a few other things, but none really did the job.

As for disposable diaper option for someone that size, you could try Goodnights (like pullups for overnight sold at big box stores, grocery stores etc, size M goes up to 65lbs).

[Sarah Sharpe]

Hi.. my dear daughter has been doing the very same thing for 3 years now.. it has been known that she does poo on the toilet but 98% of the time she poos her pants, had enough of the clearing up as it happens in the evening or when in bed!!! I`ve been to hospital and they found nothing wrong but presribed MOVICOL and said she`d grow out of it!!! she did for a while and i`ve stopped the movicol as she was always having VERY loose stools!!!...... is there ever gonna be an end to this?

[frugalmama]

wow I had no idea others were dealing with this too - dd turned 5 a few months ago and I can count on 1 hand the number of times she has gone on the potty. She goes in her pants until it is out, then runs to the potty to wiggle it loose. I thought it was just her aspergers - floored there is a name for this and that others are dealing with the same thing! Anyone else also dealing with lack of nighttime waking up to go #1? DD simply doesn't wake up at all to go potty - so we have to use something at night to hold it. She also refuses to use any potty except hers at home as well, so we use them while out too. 

We are running into a problem thought - we use Pullups nighttime right now, but she is in the biggest size now they make. She's allergic to goodnites and the store brand, and I have no idea what we're going to do when she finally gets too big for those. I'm spending $30-$40 a month in pullups right now and I really can't afford it. 

[Sarah Sharpe]

my health visitor told me to stop the pull ups at night!! and tbh it hasn`t helped, do get some nights where she doesn`t poo....

[Peony]

Originally Posted by frugalmama 

wow I had no idea others were dealing with this too - dd turned 5 a few months ago and I can count on 1 hand the number of times she has gone on the potty. She goes in her pants until it is out, then runs to the potty to wiggle it loose. I thought it was just her aspergers - floored there is a name for this and that others are dealing with the same thing! Anyone else also dealing with lack of nighttime waking up to go #1? DD simply doesn't wake up at all to go potty - so we have to use something at night to hold it. She also refuses to use any potty except hers at home as well, so we use them while out too. 

We are running into a problem thought - we use Pullups nighttime right now, but she is in the biggest size now they make. She's allergic to goodnites and the store brand, and I have no idea what we're going to do when she finally gets too big for those. I'm spending $30-$40 a month in pullups right now and I really can't afford it. 

Are you using the Pampers  night pull ups or the UnderJams which are like GoodNights but made by Pampers? UnderJams hold more then the nighttime pull-ups. The cheapest I've found them for is through Amazon in the box and do the subscribe option that knocks a couple more dollars off. I've got a 5y DD who has to wear them at night, she does not wake at all either. 

[frugalmama]

Originally Posted by Peony 

Are you using the Pampers  night pull ups or the UnderJams which are like GoodNights but made by Pampers? UnderJams hold more then the nighttime pull-ups. The cheapest I've found them for is through Amazon in the box and do the subscribe option that knocks a couple more dollars off. I've got a 5y DD who has to wear them at night, she does not wake at all either. 

Right now we're using Huggies Pullups Nighttime but they only go to 3t-4t in nighttime ones, and DD is a solid 5t but luckily slim waisted so they just fit. She's allergic to pampers and goodnights - haven't tried Underjams as I don't think they carry those locally and I try to buy local on sale. I'll see if I can get a sample somehow and try them.  I can get the Huggies ones down to around $5-6 a pack, but there is only 21 in a pack so they don't go far since we use 1 or two a night plus 1 or two when out. 

[kimmy811979]

Hello,

             My 5yr old daugher goes poop in the potty when she is at home,  She refuese to go in the potty at school.  I send a change clothes with her,  I got her off the bus and noticed that hse wasn't wareing the clothes that I put onto her this morning.   The teacher has even wrote me notes to tell me now to even try and clean them by hand.   That it's that bad.  The teacher took her on the play ground to play and said she went and hid behind one of the toys and did it in her pants.   I just don't understand why she is doing it at school.  If she can do a poop in the potty at home.   My fiance and I have even tryed to bribe her with McDonolds, and a toys.  But that doesn't seem to work either.   I just don't know I'm at my witts end.  I get so fusterated wit her.   I tell her that a baby does that kind of stuff.  And I ask her if she wants to be a big girl.  And she tells me yes.   So I try and talk to her about it.

                                                                PLEASE HELP ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[baileycopeland]

i have a cousin who is almost  and she is still pooping in her pants and we have tried candy but it is still not working so now we r doing a calender and ever time she poops in the potty she gets to put a sticker on the day that she has pooped and if she poops twice in the same day then she gets to put 2 stickers on and what we did was she and i made a calender our selves but u can also buy 1 too.

another thing that we ha done was every time that she would poop in the potty we would buy her a little present like a barbie doll or a little ball kind of telling her that she has one a good job by pooping 

sincerly, her cousin bailey (:

[Ally Nathaniel]

First - Hugs, It's not easy to deal with.

My son used to have the same problem until he was 5. when he started using the toilet he used to hold everything in for days, and when it came out, eventually, he was suffering a lot.

My insights are - at some point I figured out I'm giving him a LOT of attention around this. even though it wasn't a good attention it still was an attention - why wouldn't he take it??

I decided to just clean him up as if nothing have happened (no attention at all). every time he did use the bathroom I praised him for that (positive attention around success).

It worked.

It's not easy, and I do encourage you to find support for yourself, where you can vent out all the anger and angst around this process, so it won't come out on the child.

Ally

[Neera]

The only thing that worked for us to get rid of dd's constipation and she had days of v. severe as well, was turning around her diet. She is 95-99% vegan now. She does ask for cheese sometimes but other than that she is on a whole foods', vegan diet. Once the fiberless foods like meat, dairy and egg were gone she has never had a difficult poop and is finally not having accidents. Like a pp said I am saying that but a relapse is possible. However, it's no big deal as I know she will never have a hard poop again and will never be discouraged unlike in the past with all the highs and lows. Dd is 5 and 2.5 yrs later (her potty training began at 2.5) she is not constipated and not having accidents any more.

Edited by Neera - 1/11/12 at 10:55am

[debbie82]

Hallo My 6 year old daughter seems to be doing the same.

She makes a Nr2 in her pants when ever where ever. And the smell and the feeling does not seem to bother her at all. We have tried speaking nicely, speaking to her in a firm tone, hidings and time out  - nothing seems to be working or helping. Why will kids her age do this? what can we do to stop it???
 

[Mom31]

We had a good week last week....

Ds is 8 and has encopresis- we use miralax and potty sits.  I just am so frustrated with it. We go thru so much underwear!  I am so worried what will happen when kids smell him at school.

BUT LAST week he went to the bathroom multiple times to poop and not when we told him- is there light at end of tunnel????

[Drummer's Wife]

Since I posted on this thread a year ago, I thought I'd update to say my DS doesn't have this issue anymore. It is such a relief! Id say it's been about 6 months now, so there really is hope and a light at the end of the tunnel, you guys. For him, I don't know if was just time needed to mature, or what. One thing different now is his dairy consumption. He very rarely drinks milk; he doesn't even usually eat cereal with milk in it. I'm not sure it's related, but if milk was making his tummy act up, I'm sure it impacted his pooping habits, yk? He's the one who decided be didn't want to drink milk anymore, so it wasn't an elimination diet or what-have-you that I had him try. Maybe he knows he doesn't tolerate it easily?

Anyhow, good luck to everyone. I do still have a kid with poop issues, but it's my 4 yo and his situation is different than his older brother's, IMO. At least I hope it's just temporary, and not to the same extent. We are potty training a puppy right now, so I am just so done with poop!

[Mom31]

DW how old was your son when it was remedied? My son is 8.5 and finally starting to take responsiblity for it!

[Mumbo]

Hi I have 2 boys aged 6 & 7.  The older boy has suffered from constipation as a baby and the younger one is in my opinion (a bit naughty or young for his age).  We have been struggling with this and seeing doctors who gave nutrition advice and lactulose for years.  Then we have seen the incontinence nurse around the 3 & 4 year time.  She gave the nutrition advice, toilet time advice, reward charts etc.  Then ages 5 & 6 we started to see the doctor who prescribed movicol. Fantastic!  cleared out the bowels (needed to wear pull ups).  But it gave my older son time for his bowels/rectum muscles to come back to normal.  They both are on a little bit of Movicol each day which softens up their poos so something comes out daily.  We have tried many things (toys, lego, scrubbing undies, etc).  The doctor said if the boys still did poos in their pants, they would have to come to hospital and stay for up to 3 weeks, with one of the parents to do a 24/7 toilet training regime.  I was not looking forward to that, because I have to work!  So during the last school holidays, we cleared out their bowels using the movicol and toilet time after breakfast & dinner.  It was the holidays from hell, a lot of poo but none in the toilet... grrr.  My husband has been getting more involved this last year of it, which has helped me.  They have this computer game they like, but in order to advance even further ahead you need game gold.  Which you have to buy with real $$.  So we used that as a bribe.  We have used multiple bribes over the years so why should this be any different.  But it has worked.  Now we have 2 boys that race to use the toilet after breakfast after school and whenever they 'FEEL LIKE IT'.  And within 30 seconds of sitting on the toilet are yelling at the top of their lungs "mum and dad, I did a poo in the toilet!".  

What I think has worked; is the medicine (so poos are not painful), the younger brother really wanted this "game gold".  The older brother (who has the real constipation problem) didnt want to be shown up by his little brother, DAD got involved more.  The younger brother who has been a bit slow in developing his speech has grown up more and become more aware of his actions.

Another thing, lately I have been doing a meal-replacement drink in the morning for my breakfast which is mainly milk.  Owweee I now have a little bit of constipation.  I wasnt aware milk could do that but now I do.  I wonder now if that was the issue for the kids.  That's all they drank as babies & toddlers, didnt like juice or water.  And I couldnt get any veges or fruit in them.

In my heart of hearts I knew they would grow out of it, I just didnt know when.  But I was fully prepared to go to the hospital to do their toilet training regime.  They were going to cleanse out their poos by a medicine given by drip which would have cleared them out in a day.  Then a nurse would come and have set times with them to use the toilet.  This could take 2-3 weeks.  But the doctor assured us that it does work.  With the medicine Im using, I can give more if we dont get any poos and less so they have daily poos.  But it has only been 3 weeks and whats happening at the moment is like a miracle.  They go on their own now.  Lets hope it continues!