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post #21 of 157

What keeps me on track is my digestive system.  I have slowly over the coarse of 13 years eliminated diary (in 97), then gluten (in 2001).  Last Xmas, a year ago I was just so tired of feeling icky I had to make a change.  I came across the GAPS diet, which is grain, diary and sugar free... once I committed a short time to it it became clear that my body does soooo much better off of grain and sugar all together.   I just pay attention.  If I go 'off diet' I really feel it in my body and in my moods.... so I just tell myself no.

 

Actually, since I quit smoking 2 years ago it seems I have accessed a part of myself that can just be satisfied to say no.  I consider sugar like an addiction for me and 1 is too many and 1000 is never enough.  I know if I eat that one piece of cake, or let that one chocolate melt in my mouth... well it could get out of hand pretty quickly.  I find a very strict adherence to not cheating works in my favor.

post #22 of 157

subbing.

 

currently working really hard on maintaining a paleo diet.

sugar free

grain free

small amounts of diary  seem to  be fine for me

trying to increase organ meats but having trouble with this.

 

reducing the alcohol (wine) in my diet too. and my only cheats area small bit of  dark chocolate and i have  maybe one meal every 2 weeks that is a full on cheat, like NYE i  drank  beer and ate a bagel.

 

i'm also working on building up to longer periods without food (intermittent fasting)

i used to graze a lot, now most nights i'm done eating by8 or 9 and  dont  eat  for at least 14 hours  and working to build it to 16-18 hours.

 some nights though, like last night i was just hungry till 11pm so i  kept snacking, i am trying to listen to my  body and gently push it.

post #23 of 157
Yellow veggie: I still find spaghetti squash. Fresh squeezed lemons, I like mine in sparkling water.
post #24 of 157


 

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i'm also working on building up to longer periods without food (intermittent fasting)

i used to graze a lot, now most nights i'm done eating by8 or 9 and  dont  eat  for at least 14 hours  and working to build it to 16-18 hours.

 some nights though, like last night i was just hungry till 11pm so i  kept snacking, i am trying to listen to my  body and gently push it.

Is there a reason you are trying to go longer periods without food?  I guess I really don't know that much about a paleo diet.  Just happened into it and is seems to be what I eat.  But is fasting a part of the diet?  or just something you feel is best for you?

 

I know in my research and experience it is not a great idea to go long periods with out eating... on purpose.  Like I might go 12 hours if I eat nothing after dinner and then sleep in, but this might happen once a month or less.
 

post #25 of 157

The thing with IF is that if you feel like you're fasting, it's not the right time to do the fast. It should be more a matter of looking at the clock after you break the fast and going "Oh, I last ate 19 hours ago, interesting."

 

For me, going quasi-paleo/primal has seriously cut down on my snacking. If I eat a really big fatty meal (like a salad with a couple hardboiled eggs, a few oz of ground meat, half and avocado, and a few oz feta (see "quasi")) for dinner I can go to noon or even later before I start thinking about food for myself. Even though I'm making food for dd and am right there in the kitchen.

 

post #26 of 157

Oh, I see.  I actually come from a place were I don't like to eat a huge meal, ever, and so need smaller ones more often.smile.gif

post #27 of 157

I'm in! My cousin got me all excited about the Paleo diet; she says her sister went on it and looks amazing. I've done whole foods/low carb before but have never been grain free. Today's day 1.

 

How do those of you with small kids deal with managing their dietary needs with your own? I don't want them to go grain-free, and I'm worried it will be hard to resist pasta and rice when I make it for them. Tips?

 

So far today I had scrambled eggs and sliced avocado for breakfast, yum, along with tea (with some soy milk). I suppose I'll need to cut out caffeine and soy eventually but I'm leaving it alone for now, I don't want to do too much all at once.

post #28 of 157
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I'm in! My cousin got me all excited about the Paleo diet; she says her sister went on it and looks amazing. I've done whole foods/low carb before but have never been grain free. Today's day 1.

 

How do those of you with small kids deal with managing their dietary needs with your own? I don't want them to go grain-free, and I'm worried it will be hard to resist pasta and rice when I make it for them. Tips?

Make sure to eat enough. If you find yourself craving the pasta you're cooking for them, eat something. For me, it has really helped to have a sweet fruit on hand. Dates for instance. After a couple days, eating more than 4-5 was too much sweetness.
post #29 of 157

I am considering doing something along these lines.

 

Problem is, I've been told it takes more than a couple weeks or a couple months or even a year to get results. I simply can't commit to going grain free for a year without having any positive feedback from my body in the meantime. If it took, say, 4 weeks - then I could commit to going 6 weeks and then seeing where I am. 6 weeks is, from past experience, the longest I can commit to something without results; if I don't have results in that time I just don't have the discipline (or the motivation or the logical common sense or something) to keep going.

 

The other problem is that I'm learning how to bake bread :) lol, so it makes me sad to consider setting aside a new skill I am gaining.

 

What are people's thoughts on brown rice?

 

Hm, the other problem I have is ethics and finances - in terms of meat. I am absolutely ethically opposed to buying factory meat. I won't do it. You may argue my health is better than that position (and I'm not so sure eating it would help my health anyway) but that's my position, I've held it for a long time, and I'm not changing it. I do eat pastured, local meat - but can afford it only rarely. So I'm thinking most people shift more of their calories onto meat, which sounds good, but I can't afford it. (Meat is maybe a monthly thing in my house, and we stretch it absolutely as far as we can).

 

Why am I considering something along the lines of grain free? I feel cruddy, and have for years. Recurring arthritis (no flareup right now, but I get periods of inflammation that last for a couple of months, and the last one lasted for a little over a YEAR). Oral inflammation as well. I'm holding on to extra weight - not gaining but just holding on to an extra 25 pounds for several years, including during a period of about 8 months where I tried really hard to drop that weight with weight lifting, running, and an attempt to get a handle on what I ate (I gained some strength but stayed stubbornly in the same size jeans and continued to have a fat belly along with fat thighs, hips and ass). I've completely stopped doing anything special to feel better for about 8 or 9 months but maybe I'm ready to try something new again.

post #30 of 157


 

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I'm in! My cousin got me all excited about the Paleo diet; she says her sister went on it and looks amazing. I've done whole foods/low carb before but have never been grain free. Today's day 1.

 

How do those of you with small kids deal with managing their dietary needs with your own? I don't want them to go grain-free, and I'm worried it will be hard to resist pasta and rice when I make it for them. Tips?

Make sure to eat enough. If you find yourself craving the pasta you're cooking for them, eat something. For me, it has really helped to have a sweet fruit on hand. Dates for instance. After a couple days, eating more than 4-5 was too much sweetness.


Ah, that sounds like a good tip, thanks! I think I need to make a run to the store to make sure I have enough stuff for me on hand. Nothing worse than being on a new diet, feeling hungry, and looking through the cupboards only to find that everything there is off-limits.

post #31 of 157


I got results quite fast from going paleo. I have chronic Lyme and I get extreme fatigue and inflammation from flare ups. I really think going grain free (and dairy free ) is a big part (like 90%+) of why I don't live in pain (also get enough sleep, control stress and all that stuff)..I have been doing this for 4 years too.

I also lost like 6 pounds in 3 days (I did not cut out other carbs like fruit and honey though)...my nutritionist lady said that is water weight droppping and usually a sign that that food for an allergen to your body. When I start up grains (even gluten free) I gain that weight back and get horrible hot pain most in my hand joints. So I would really encourage you to try it for a month if you have inflammation issues.

 

It woul be really hard to do without more meat,...do you have a good egg source? I also found raw food sites a good place to get recipes and they are meat free too and usually depend on nuts ofr protein. You could also still do lentils ect and see how it works. I have found evry [erson jhas to experiment on themselves to find the right fit.

 

Belly fat,pain, weight issues, and an overall bad feeling could be adrenal fatigue as well....have you looked into that?

 

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I am considering doing something along these lines.

 

Problem is, I've been told it takes more than a couple weeks or a couple months or even a year to get results. I simply can't commit to going grain free for a year without having any positive feedback from my body in the meantime. If it took, say, 4 weeks - then I could commit to going 6 weeks and then seeing where I am. 6 weeks is, from past experience, the longest I can commit to something without results; if I don't have results in that time I just don't have the discipline (or the motivation or the logical common sense or something) to keep going.

 

The other problem is that I'm learning how to bake bread :) lol, so it makes me sad to consider setting aside a new skill I am gaining.

 

What are people's thoughts on brown rice?

 

Hm, the other problem I have is ethics and finances - in terms of meat. I am absolutely ethically opposed to buying factory meat. I won't do it. You may argue my health is better than that position (and I'm not so sure eating it would help my health anyway) but that's my position, I've held it for a long time, and I'm not changing it. I do eat pastured, local meat - but can afford it only rarely. So I'm thinking most people shift more of their calories onto meat, which sounds good, but I can't afford it. (Meat is maybe a monthly thing in my house, and we stretch it absolutely as far as we can).

 

Why am I considering something along the lines of grain free? I feel cruddy, and have for years. Recurring arthritis (no flareup right now, but I get periods of inflammation that last for a couple of months, and the last one lasted for a little over a YEAR). Oral inflammation as well. I'm holding on to extra weight - not gaining but just holding on to an extra 25 pounds for several years, including during a period of about 8 months where I tried really hard to drop that weight with weight lifting, running, and an attempt to get a handle on what I ate (I gained some strength but stayed stubbornly in the same size jeans and continued to have a fat belly along with fat thighs, hips and ass). I've completely stopped doing anything special to feel better for about 8 or 9 months but maybe I'm ready to try something new again.

post #32 of 157
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I got results quite fast from going paleo. I have chronic Lyme and I get extreme fatigue and inflammation from flare ups. I really think going grain free (and dairy free ) is a big part (like 90%+) of why I don't live in pain (also get enough sleep, control stress and all that stuff)..I have been doing this for 4 years too.

I also lost like 6 pounds in 3 days (I did not cut out other carbs like fruit and honey though)...my nutritionist lady said that is water weight droppping and usually a sign that that food for an allergen to your body. When I start up grains (even gluten free) I gain that weight back and get horrible hot pain most in my hand joints. So I would really encourage you to try it for a month if you have inflammation issues.

 

It woul be really hard to do without more meat,...do you have a good egg source? I also found raw food sites a good place to get recipes and they are meat free too and usually depend on nuts ofr protein. You could also still do lentils ect and see how it works. I have found evry [erson jhas to experiment on themselves to find the right fit.

 

Belly fat,pain, weight issues, and an overall bad feeling could be adrenal fatigue as well....have you looked into that?

  



Eggs - yes, I have a source for pastured eggs. This time of year isn't so great for quantities, though. But I'm thinking I'm going to get tired of eating eggs very quickly. I don't think I could do more than twice a week without feeling kind of over-egged. Probably what makes it worse is that the only way I can eat eggs that aren't baked into a dish, is hard-boiled. For reasons I have not been able to sort out, omlettes and scrambled make me feel sick.

 

I use a lot of dairy in cooking - cheese, sour cream, milk, butter. Not sure if I need to cut that out, but I don't know *what* I'd do if I had no grains and no dairy.

 

Adrenal - yes, I've looked into that but never did formal testing or anything like that. I think I probably do have some adrenal fatigue issues, but have managed to move past the worst of it. In 2008, it was so bad I couldn't function. Seriously, nonfunctional. Unable to even hold a conversation on the worst days. Thankfully I haven't had that level of fatigue since, though I generally feel low energy and can be frustrated at my lack of productivity (which is not a factor of anything mental, like not caring to be productive). Exercise helps a lot but I think there is a bit more to the equation somewhere.

post #33 of 157

Hi all, haven't posted as of late.  I ate way more sugar than usual over the holidays and even had grains some days as well.  I feel so out of whack.  I want to do grains because of the pocket book but man my body doesn't like it.  I have had insomnia off and on since my diet hasn't been spot on.  No corn tortilla chip is worth not sleeping, I have too much to do!  So, this is a new week and I am trying to cut back sugar again.  I have a little problem in that I seem to be requiring a lot more calories as of late and I do not need to lose any weight.  I have been doing more fruit and such just as I seem to need it.  I have been eating a lot more nuts lately as well trying to get in extra calories easily. 

 

Oh, I made a kick butt supper last night.  I had some of those coconut aminos(which are a soy/wheat free soy sauce sub) and did a fried rice w/ grated cauliflower, grated cabbage, onions, carrots and cilantro- seasoned w/ the coco aminos, some molasses, chili pepper, sesame seeds, fish sauce and ginger- sauteed some chicken and added it as well.  Everyone LOVED it!  Not sure what we are doing tonight, I am supposed to be making a menu but I forgot- better get on that!  The Paleo Moroccan stew looks good, I might have to add that on!

 

re: meat free paleo:  I honestly don't know how one would do it with those restrictions.  I would think you would likely have results by 4 weeks, it seems for most they do, although there are those anomalies that it takes longer. 

 

re: paleo pregnancy:  I attempted this my last 2 pregnancies.  I did find it much more difficult in the beginnings but towards the end it was a lot easier.  I did eat a LOT of sweet potatoes as I felt the need for more carbs.  I did eat chocolate as well, and potatoes- mine were more grainfree/dairy/soy free than paleo to be honest.  I craved liver like crazy last time but I had an aversion to greens which I ate a ton of my 2nd pregnancy. 

 

I have been trialing some dairy as of late.  I *think* it is going ok for me and babe but heck I have been wrong before.  I am totally craving yogurt.  I have some coco yogurt right now but am about to run out.  I think I will try to make my own again with some raw milk and see how it goes- way back when I made it by the gallon I ate so much.

post #34 of 157

I have been addicted to Marks Daily Apple the last few days. the primal diet/lifestyle he describes is really appealing to me and not far off from our current diet/lifestyle. A few questions I have: what's the story on seeds-are they all indegestible? too much insoluble fiber? are shelled seeds ok? What about pseudo-grains like quinoa, amaranth and buckwheat? Do they have the same toxic anti-nutrients? the same insulin response? Also, does anyone eat blue-green algae? Do you know if it's ok to start spirulina/chlorella while nursing? 

 

I want to make the switch to grain free, we are already usually gf, but may continue with some gf grains, for now. What do you use to soak up yummy sauces/gravies? Starchy vegetables ok?

post #35 of 157

Hi ladies - gonna jump on in here.

 

As of the first, I'm back on track.  My goal is to make it to my birthday (end of December) and be able to run a half marathon, be working towards dropping 100 lbs, and be able to look back on the year and see I did it mostly grain free/sugar free.  Thankfully my DH is very supportive of this, and towards that end, I'm able to get everything out of the house.  Right now we're working on cleaning out the freezer, so I'm packing the breads in his lunchbox so I don't have to deal with them. 

 

Since Christmas, I've already dropped almost 10 lbs.  We did paleo and grain free at separate times a few years ago, and I know it's what I need to control the IR and really clear up so many symptoms.  I am not currently going dairy-free, but have accepted the fact that it may be in my future.  Once DS weans from formula, we may discover that he truly is dairy intolerant, at which point I'm going to have to work on getting it mostly out of the house.  For now I have to limit his non-formula dairy to a small (regulated) amount of cheese each day or deal with the consequences.

 

I joined a meat CSA last month, and I inventoried my freezer a couple weeks ago.  So now we're meal-planning with a vengeance.  Last night I made a sloppy joe stew with bell peppers, celery, leeks and 3 pints of home-canned tomatoes.  Plenty left over for lunches for the week, paired with some salads, I'm sure, since there was kale and lettuce in my CSA box.  We had it tonight as well, over a bed of mashed cauliflower - delish. 

 

Tomorrow night will be seafood stir-fry.  I have shrimp, some salmon and maybe some ahi in the freezer.  Then braised beef ribs, meatloaf and 13 bean soup for the weekend. 

 

Katielady - for the munchkin, I don't make or serve him grains.  If we're out somewhere (friends, restaurant, playgroup, etc.), I won't stop him from eating the healthy grain foods, but I'm not going to have them in the house for him.  I just can't deal with that. 

 

Laohaire - Some of us keep legumes.  I can tolerate them a few times a week (2-3x), but not every day.  We do eat a lot of eggs - we can go through 2-3 dozen/week just the 2 of us, even though we do also eat plenty of meat.  Bone broths are another good option, if you can get ahold of the bones necessary.  You can also use cheeses if you're keeping dairy.  How about nuts?  How do you do with fritattas/quiches?  As silly as it sounds, you can also make cheesecake with cream cheese and eggs and eat it for breakfast.  With the addition of almond meal (cheaper than flour), it becomes a "pound cake".  As silly as it sounds to eat cake for breakfast when you're going GF, all those nuts, cheese and eggs can really get you through the morning.  Don't forget that fat is a great appetite suppressant.  As for timing - I'm usually feeling better within 2-3 weeks, some people might take 6.  But if it's going to work, you're usually going to feel some change by then, even if there's more to come. 

 

Something to keep in mind is that often-times for the first week you'll feel ravenous.  Constantly eating.  Don't look at that and get scared - it's just detox, and usually passes within a few days.  Then the lovely appetite suppressing portion kicks in. 

post #36 of 157

Loahaire,  We are on a tight budget and we are managing to do this as we stick up when cod is $3 a lb.  Sometime $2 a lb what a great deal.  Cutting out grain has been so worth it for me and I am glad I did it.  Cutting out dairy actually makes a bigger difference for me, so grain and dairy free is possible to do.  .  Dh has a newisgh job working on a grass fed beef farm so he gets free meat and that helps, but if we had to pay for it we would eat more ground beef and liver as those are usually the cheapest cuts.  We also has more tahn we can imagine of beef fat.  It is amazing for frying and in baked goods it is like heaven.  It got 28 lbs for $30.  I don't do as much legumes but that is because I am following the book the 3 seasoon dit and beans a according to the author, a spring protein and meat a winter protein.

 

So I do confess here that since the family (and me) are having hard time with grain free, we do eat some kind of baked good with brown rice flour on the weekend.  During the week is off limits.  This weekend was GF blueberry muffins with beef fat unstead ofthe oil and it was the best.  Having a day of splurging makes the week easier for now.

post #37 of 157

I need more meal ideas asI get stumped or find that I am preparing a big meal every meal.  Anyone find this?

 

And what is this about not doing potatoes?  Are we not supposed to have them?  What about nuts?  I guess I have got to read more up on paleo...

post #38 of 157

re: kids: The older 2 do get some gluten free grains.  Like a few mornings a week they will have gluten free oats and corn tortilla chips from time to time.  I am not tempted by the oats ever something like that in the morning would crash me into a sugar coma.  The baby doesn't get any grains directly, although she is always looking for crumbs.  She did get ahold of some gf oats one time that little sis left down and it seemed to really bother her tummy- of course she has also eaten plenty of crayon and lipgloss as well, so who knows.  The babes diet is meat, beans, veggies, fat, nuts, butter.  I think that is it for her.  She is eating the coco yogurt I have now and if/when I get some milk to make some 24 hr dairy yogurt I am going to try her on that.

 

re: nuts and legumes.  Potatoes. Both are to be soaked before eating.  I however don't generally get around to soaking nuts and have been eating a fair amount lately, it is on my 2-Do List.  Beans or 1 or 2x a week here- I try to pair that with bone broth and some meat.  Potatoes are not considered paleo or primal but I do eat them currently.  Sweet pot are considered ok on primal.  Strict primal doesn't allow other nightshades either though.

 

re: big meals: I do simple here for me lots of scrambled eggs and bacon/homemade sausage, green juice/smoothies, coconut flour or almond flour baked goods are for the weekends usually, eggs and hashbrowns.  Lunch is leftovers a few times a week, then maybe a salad w/ hard boiled eggs- or some nitrate/hormone free turkey, or a quick veg/bone broth soup, some bean dish, deviled eggs and such.

 

Menu plan this week for me:

Mon night: Southwest Cottage Pie- topped w/ a homemade creamy chipolte dressing and mashed potatoes w/ salad

Tues night: Paleo Moroccan Soup

Wed: Southwest chicken and Chickpea

thurs: Peppersteak, asparagus, salad, delicata squash

fri: veggie curry w/ fried cauli "rice"

sat: leftovers

 

Got a good night sleep last night!  Ya!  Breakfast will be some eggs and hashbrowns.  Today is leftovers for lunch day.  I already have the chicken for my soup cooked so that should throw together pretty quick.

 

post #39 of 157

Great meal ideas.

 

Last nights dinner was soup - bone broth, lots of marrow, potatoes, chickpeas, and spinach (yes and onions and celery too)  I purees most of the spinach so it was a green broth.  My ds loved that.

 

Breakfast today was sweet potatoes, chicken sausage, and spinach cooked in the pan that had the sausage for flavor.

post #40 of 157

Checking in... oooh grain-free has been tough so far.  I'm still averaging grains for 1 meal a day and its typically dinner. While that's not great... it's certainly better than 3xday :)  Working to get back to 0 grains.  While not grain-free I am definitely staying gluten free and that makes me feel awesome!

 

I'm right now loving my Soup inspired Sundays - as that gives me typically a week of lunches (1-2 cup portions) with BIGa$$ salad to go along with it. yummy.gif

 

Cruncy_mama I'm inspired by your meal planning so I'm giving it a whirl for this week to keep on track if possible (these are all dinners)

 

Monday: Steak tacos (with corn tortillas or leaf lettuce) & black beans

Tuesday: Brinner (breakfast for dinner) I'll probably do an egg scramble with sausage & cheese

Wednedsay:  Salmon with some brussel sprouts & potatoes

Thursday: TBD - I need to look at my master monthly menu list for an idea

Friday: Homemade Pizza night (or Meatza for me!!)

Saturday: Either Roasted Chicken or Ribs night

Sunday: Split Pea & Ham Hock soup with Garam Masala

 

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