Jumping January 2011 Chat Thread - Page 13

[tanyalynn]

I've missed tons of stuff to respond to.  I'll be out of the house for most of the middle of tomorrow, so count me out for the conf call.  And I am low-tech, I don't have video stuff set up at all--don't know if anything audio/visual is possible with all of DH's game stuff.  Another day would be good for a call.  Guess I could put a few more pictures of myself on FB--I think I have about 3 pictures and 2 are of Diego's reaction rash (partly to vent, partly so people IRL know what that face rash means--cause DS isn't the only kid I see it on).  My schedule is in a bit of flux, sometimes I don't know where I'll be in 2 days.  Picture a confused me, cause I cut back on activities. 

[changingseasons]

blood sugar (are you thinking high or low?) tends to show up with real, obvious symptoms or else nothing at all. My first thought would be either weird neurotransmitters (low serotonin can cause carb cravings, so can low cortisol. which isn't a neurotransmitter but pshaw). Or the tummy ache thing. Maybe she's going through a growth spurt? Combined with not-great absorption? Dd's been on the sugar wagon for too long now, but I'm having trouble breaking the cycle. I need to get myself under control first, but right now ds's teeth have priority even over me. Grrr...

Well, my blood sugar is really high, and I'm not having any obvious symptoms.... I'm leaning toward tummy ache. Maybe she's having some silent reflux or something and the extra saliva from the lollipop is helping soothe it. I'm thinking we may need to do the pH probe to see if she's got some reflux going on. With the number of eosinophils she had in her esophagus, it's almost definitely EE, but you're technically *supposed* to rule out GERD first. And rarely, you can have both. blah.

Yeah- DP makes her glazed carrots every so often. He's more creative that way.

[DevaMajka]

Wow deditus! That's a pretty big reaction. Have you done an allergy test? That would be my next step, if it were me.

CS- bummer. It's really hard to see our kids react and not know how to fix it. And the stress of possibly losing more foods- it stresses me out! I can't imagine what it's like for you!

eta- I added some pics of us to my album on here :)

[deditus]

Has anyone done the Genova DetoxiGenomics test? Am I missing something or is it just a test for SNPs? Wouldn't 23andme tell you the same things?

Here's a sample report (PDF):

http://www.genovadiagnostics.com/files/profile_assets/sample_report/DetoxiGenomics_Report.pdf

I'm mainly thinking my phase II detox is stalled. Ran out of too many supps at once, but sure would be nice if I knew which ones were actually helping!

[Theloose]

Originally Posted by changingseasons 

blood sugar (are you thinking high or low?) tends to show up with real, obvious symptoms or else nothing at all. My first thought would be either weird neurotransmitters (low serotonin can cause carb cravings, so can low cortisol. which isn't a neurotransmitter but pshaw). Or the tummy ache thing. Maybe she's going through a growth spurt? Combined with not-great absorption? Dd's been on the sugar wagon for too long now, but I'm having trouble breaking the cycle. I need to get myself under control first, but right now ds's teeth have priority even over me. Grrr...

Well, my blood sugar is really high, and I'm not having any obvious symptoms.... I'm leaning toward tummy ache. Maybe she's having some silent reflux or something and the extra saliva from the lollipop is helping soothe it. I'm thinking we may need to do the pH probe to see if she's got some reflux going on. With the number of eosinophils she had in her esophagus, it's almost definitely EE, but you're technically *supposed* to rule out GERD first. And rarely, you can have both. blah.

Yeah- DP makes her glazed carrots every so often. He's more creative that way.

What about something simpler, like she just wants something to suck on cause she misses nursing?

Dd is a poop machine today, but in mostly good spirits. Not sure what to make of the dairy yesterday.

For Skype tomorrow... Do we know how to find each other? Should we hash out the details on fb first?

[Theloose]

Hmmm... Skype group video requires skype premium, which is $8/mo or $5/day. With a 7 day free trial. Do we want to do that or voice only?

[kjbrown92]

The new quote thing is bugging me. I liked the way you could break them up before.
 

Jessica/CS - your mom is a pastor? My dad was a minister, so I know how that goes. I agree with whoever said maybe the lollipop is a missing nursing thing. And kids can have environmental allergies at 2yo, so why would they say she's too young to have them? (and I know kids who have had cat type allergies even younger than that)

Theloose/FireWithin: I have always worried about DS (my second born) more than the other two. I don't know why. I have always worried about his health. I don't know if it was because he broke his collarbone on his way into the world so I think he's more fragile or what, but I don't worry about the girls as much. And DS has my blood type and my constitution, where the girls both have DH's blood type. I wonder if that means I worry about myself too. hmmmm...

Skype - I only have the regular one. And I'm home at 3pm but the kids get home at 3:10 from school and it becomes chaos. It would be nice to see everybody but then I'd have to do my hair....

My foobs are actually spasming so much this morning (fill yesterday) that I can see them moving. Quite disconcerting and painful. I had to take a painkiller this morning to get out of bed. And it's -2F here today. Yikes. That's cold. I have to do the 4-store grocery shopping today. DH finally apologized last night and made me promise not to discuss marital spats on FB (again, he didn't say here) because he thought it was disrespectful. He also said that his company had plants in VA and WI and what did I think about moving. I said let's go. He said, what? I thought you'd say no way. I said, why not. Could still go to the lake for the summer, etc. And I found a job that seemed like a good fit yesterday and looked where it was - and it's 2 miles down the street. Didn't even know there was a company in town! So I may go down there or send in my resume or something: Editorial Assistant.

[chlobo]

If the skype things happen, please post the details.  I'll join if I can.  I've got one kid down sick & a chiro appointment this afternoon.

Has anyone heard of erosive gastritis?  My SIL supposedly has this.  So, of course, they gave his acid inhibitors.  I'm thinking that's bad right?  Think maybe she should try digestive enzymes or maybe HCL?

[Theloose]

11 here is 2 there. Is that better? Should we change the time? (I'm not expecting this one to go that smoothly anyway, more of a work out the kinks sort of thing. Let's do audio only. Shall we do it through skype or the phone in thing? Or should I just decide?

[FireWithin]

I think you should decide TheLoose

I am available at that time but can be available later

[changingseasons]

Originally Posted by Theloose 





What about something simpler, like she just wants something to suck on cause she misses nursing?Dd is a poop machine today, but in mostly good spirits. Not sure what to make of the dairy yesterday.For Skype tomorrow... Do we know how to find each other? Should we hash out the details on fb first?

That would make sense, except that it's really all of a sudden. She's also suddenly asking to nurse and forcibly trying to get my shirt off, and then crying when I say no. This is all new in the past couple weeks. And she's definitely reacting to something this week.... and I have no clue what. She's got random small hives popping up every so often, and her belly looks like she's been scratching.

Originally Posted by Theloose 

Hmmm... Skype group video requires skype premium, which is $8/mo or $5/day. With a 7 day free trial. Do we want to do that or voice only?

Really? That sucks. So everyone can voice conference on there though, right? I've never really used Skype.

Originally Posted by kjbrown92 

The new quote thing is bugging me. I liked the way you could break them up before.
 

Jessica/CS - your mom is a pastor? My dad was a minister, so I know how that goes. I agree with whoever said maybe the lollipop is a missing nursing thing. And kids can have environmental allergies at 2yo, so why would they say she's too young to have them? (and I know kids who have had cat type allergies even younger than that)

Yep. Just as of a few years ago, although most of my childhood was spent in church.

I have no idea. But the allergist has said it to me at least 3 times, that she WILL (for sure) develop environmental allergies in the future, but she won't have them yet. Which seems strange, since she had a slight positive to feathers when we tested that (when I was considering getting chickens.) Maybe the allergist we see next week will test her for some environmental stuff too.

Sorry about the boobs. That doesn't sound fun at.all.

[changingseasons]

Ok, glucose smart mamas (cough*Shannon*cough)- HELP!

What does it mean if my blood glucose goes *down* after a meal? Admittedly, it wasn't a very carby meal, but I did have a big glass of juice with it (Odwalla Superfood, ~25g sugar/30g carb.). I tested 1 hour after eating. My fasting test this morning was 104 (slightly out of the healthy 'normal' range), and after breakfast it was 96/93 (I tested twice).

And then I tested DD, which was a little more than an hour after she ate. She had eaten some honey about 10 minutes before, but from what I've read that shouldn't affect blood sugar so quickly. Her first reading was a 147, so I retested and got 167!

wth?

[Lady Lilya]

CS, that is what happens to me.  If i eat starches or sugars, I end up with LOWER blood sugar than if I hadn't eaten at all.  It is called Reactive Hypoglycemia.  That is why I have to start meals with proteins, and finish them up with anything starchy or sweet.  

[changingseasons]

Originally Posted by Lady Lilya 

CS, that is what happens to me.  If i eat starches or sugars, I end up with LOWER blood sugar than if I hadn't eaten at all.  It is called Reactive Hypoglycemia.  That is why I have to start meals with proteins, and finish them up with anything starchy or sweet.  

Huh. But the reason that I'm testing now is because the random blood glucose draw that my midwife did came back at 147. I'm guessing that your numbers don't get high with hypoglycemia, right?

[DevaMajka]

Kathy- sorry about the boobs, but yay on your dh apoligizing. That has to ease at least some of the stress for you.

Dp pointed out something last night- J has a little potbelly, which I knew and just assumed it was because he was gaining weight. But he also pointed out that you can see J's ribs when he stands up straight, which I hadn't noticed (he very rarely stands still!)

Does this stand out to anyone as a "symptom" of anything? My mind goes straight to wheat, but I have no idea why. It's not anything we've suspected thus far, but most of our detective work has been in relation to his eczema, not his digestive stuff.

And J's tantrums and fits were off the charts yesterday. Every little thing. Man, I gotta figure this stuff out.

K has an allergist appt today- wish us luck that we have a good allergist! If I like him, I'll get J referred to him too, instead of waiting a year for his appt at Children's.

[Theloose]

k, i'm not reading and replying, just posting.  conference call ON for right now.  here's the number:

1 [phone]

and access code:

746-1317

and we'll work out the kinks on fb

[kjbrown92]

Hope you have a good allergist appt Becky.

I should know more about blood sugar, considering all the kids I know with juvenile diabetes, but the only thing I remember is the number 60. And I can't remember if that's the target or what. With our friend's daughter, she had her stomach was bothering her a couple weeks before she had the excessive thirst/urination thing.

I got red quinoa today. Is it the same thing as the regular quinoa, or do I have to do another food trial with it? Of course I couldn't find my skype password so I couldn't log in at the right time. Maybe next time. Since it's so cold outside, I figure it's a refrigerator, and I'm leaving all the groceries out there until the kids come home, and they can bring it all in.

Jessica - I still think it's odd about the environmental allergies, because ours said they usually started around age 2. And I think it was DS who was exactly 2yo when his started. DD1 was like 5yo. Because is there was something environmental, then maybe they haven't all been food reactions (recently) and you'd have some foods back. Wouldn't that be nice?

[changingseasons]

HA- I really doubt we would get any foods back, because I've been careful to trial things multiple times before pulling them for good. But it could maybe explain some of the mystery reactions lately. Although she doesn't have any *typical* enviro symptoms.... who knows.

60 is way low for blood sugar I think. But of course I'm just learning too, so I could be wrong.

[Sandrine]

I was gone yesterday and am trying to catchup with all the post i missed.   I went out of town to see a urologist for my referal. It went well. The roads were clear(I live north where the roads can be full of snow and hard to pass.)

The appt went well. I'm to have a u/s once the baby is here and then I will have a tele/video conference with him at the beginning of April to discuss what the next steps will be. I'm taking this as a sign that I need to start taking care of me better and that's what I will do. I was on the right path when I got pg but then got sidetracked. So for the next 2mths at least, I will relax, care for me and the girls and maybe take the time to clean and declutter my house. ;) but if that's not done, I won't panic. LOL

Sounds like everyone is having a bit of a hard time with a few things. I hope you all can find the prob and be able to fix it.

Sorry i missed the conference call, I wouldn't have been much help but I would have learn alot. :) We have skype and OoooVooo(or something like that. They are both the same. Dh uses it more than me but I can use it too. We only have it on his laptop and he's gone with it this wkend. i do know that you can do conference type calls on skype and not have to pay.

Originally Posted by DevaMajka 

Dp pointed out something last night- J has a little potbelly, which I knew and just assumed it was because he was gaining weight. But he also pointed out that you can see J's ribs when he stands up straight, which I hadn't noticed (he very rarely stands still!)

Does this stand out to anyone as a "symptom" of anything? My mind goes straight to wheat, but I have no idea why. It's not anything we've suspected thus far, but most of our detective work has been in relation to his eczema, not his digestive stuff.

And J's tantrums and fits were off the charts yesterday. Every little thing. Man, I gotta figure this stuff out.

K has an allergist appt today- wish us luck that we have a good allergist! If I like him, I'll get J referred to him too, instead of waiting a year for his appt at Children's.

DD3 has a pot belly when she is really gassy. Not sure what she is reacting to but when she does fart it really makes her belly look better. I think for her it could be a combinaison(sp) of too much carbs, which dh is good at giving her too much and not enough veggies, proteins and fruits, which I'm good at giving all the girls. So during the wk, her belly looks good and during the wkend, it doesn't. lol He gets up with the girls on wkends and takes over most meals too.( yes, I'm lucky)

Good luck at the allergist!

[Theloose]

Originally Posted by changingseasons 

Ok, glucose smart mamas (cough*Shannon*cough)- HELP!

What does it mean if my blood glucose goes *down* after a meal? Admittedly, it wasn't a very carby meal, but I did have a big glass of juice with it (Odwalla Superfood, ~25g sugar/30g carb.). I tested 1 hour after eating. My fasting test this morning was 104 (slightly out of the healthy 'normal' range), and after breakfast it was 96/93 (I tested twice).

And then I tested DD, which was a little more than an hour after she ate. She had eaten some honey about 10 minutes before, but from what I've read that shouldn't affect blood sugar so quickly. Her first reading was a 147, so I retested and got 167!

wth?

When was the 147?  In the morning/evening?  after eating or on an empty stomach?  were you stressed?  eating food triggers?  try taking your blood sugar for a few days, fasting in the morning, and after various meals, and you'll get a feel for what it's doing.  You can also play with when you take it after a meal, 45 minutes, an hour, two hours after.

I'd blame the honey and retest dd later.

Originally Posted by DevaMajka 

Kathy- sorry about the boobs, but yay on your dh apoligizing. That has to ease at least some of the stress for you.

Dp pointed out something last night- J has a little potbelly, which I knew and just assumed it was because he was gaining weight. But he also pointed out that you can see J's ribs when he stands up straight, which I hadn't noticed (he very rarely stands still!)

Does this stand out to anyone as a "symptom" of anything? My mind goes straight to wheat, but I have no idea why. It's not anything we've suspected thus far, but most of our detective work has been in relation to his eczema, not his digestive stuff.

And J's tantrums and fits were off the charts yesterday. Every little thing. Man, I gotta figure this stuff out.

K has an allergist appt today- wish us luck that we have a good allergist! If I like him, I'll get J referred to him too, instead of waiting a year for his appt at Children's.

You're not off gluten yet? 

Originally Posted by changingseasons 

HA- I really doubt we would get any foods back, because I've been careful to trial things multiple times before pulling them for good. But it could maybe explain some of the mystery reactions lately. Although she doesn't have any *typical* enviro symptoms.... who knows.

60 is way low for blood sugar I think. But of course I'm just learning too, so I could be wrong.

I bet 60 is the hypoglycemic cutoff of taking action with a diabetic.

Had a fun chat with amy and carren and lisa :)  For the next one, someone who couldn't make it this time choose the time.  And let's try voice only on skype to compare the two.