Jumping January 2011 Chat Thread - Page 18

[momofmine]

Biotin for cradle cap....Will the cradle cap just go away, or do you still need to get what's there off and then biotin will keep it from returning?  How much would I give my 45 pound child with cradle cap?  And what would you use to get it off his head that he will allow me to do???  He can't stand to let me pick it off.

[kjbrown92]

Originally Posted by DevaMajka 

Originally Posted by changingseasons 

So it looks like egg is a pass for us, unless it's a buildup reaction. Is that possible with egg?

Yes, definitely possible. I wouldn't call it a pass until you've had it for at least 4-5 days in a row.

Well, at least breakfast will be yummy for at least a few more days. lol. It's wierd though- one day that I thought he reacted to egg (in mayo) the reaction was the next day, and definitely noticable. I did read that the egg in mayo is raw, so maybe that would affect him differently? Or it wasn't the mayo at all. Which means I may have to don my detective hat...
 

I don't think the egg in commercial mayo is raw (it is in my homemade mayo though). But mayo has a lot of ingredients in it. Whenever I put a suspect food back in, I always rotate it once every 4 days. I never do the 5 days in a row, because I'm scared we'll lose it.
 

Originally Posted by momofmine 

Is that a lot of mag?  Because the vit we just started has 300 mg of mag, and it says for kids 4 and up.

My DD2 has a 120mg capsule at dinnertime (40 lbs.). DS has 120mg in the morning and 120mg at dinner (65 lbs). I keep thinking about giving him a 3rd but haven't yet. I take 6 120mg capsules a day... I can't add, where's the calculator... 720 mg/day. Our is all glycinate (Vital Nutrients).
 

[deditus]

Originally Posted by momofmine 

Speaking of mag, I just checked the GI Pro Child multi and it has 300 mg of mag!  It says magnesium glycinate chelate.

I think the GIPro is the same as the Klaire Labs multi that I tried for dd and she failed, but yes, all the mag is one reason I was so excited to try it!

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Originally Posted by DevaMajka 

So it looks like egg is a pass for us, unless it's a buildup reaction. Is that possible with egg? We both had egg 2 days ago (morning), and again yesterday. Not only is his eczema not getting worse, it's actually improving (what teeny bit was there). His elbows are clear, his bum cheeks are just dry, there's barely a bump on his knees. Just a small patch on his shoulder.

Maybe the choline?

Eggs fail after 5-7 days for us, but I am never very consistent with source and/or how it is prepared. And I am rethinking some of our fails - like eggs, and supps. How do I know it's not detox?

Originally Posted by momofmine 

Biotin for cradle cap....Will the cradle cap just go away, or do you still need to get what's there off and then biotin will keep it from returning?  How much would I give my 45 pound child with cradle cap?  And what would you use to get it off his head that he will allow me to do???  He can't stand to let me pick it off.

Dd's just went away when I removed her offending foods and got her on enxymes & probiotics. If you try biotin go slowly because it can cause some die-off/detox symptoms. For myself, I did the Pure Encapsulations biotin - I think it is 5 or 8 mg? I have heard that a mushroom or cornsilk brush works well to remove cradle cap.

[FireWithin]

Originally Posted by momofmine 

Biotin for cradle cap....Will the cradle cap just go away, or do you still need to get what's there off and then biotin will keep it from returning?  How much would I give my 45 pound child with cradle cap?  And what would you use to get it off his head that he will allow me to do???  He can't stand to let me pick it off.

DDs cradle cap starts to recede when I take biotin, so it disappears on its own.

wrt  b12 - my family doc blood tested my 7 year old and said he had never seen even an adult with half that amount of b12 in his or her blood.  He was freaked out.  To me, it shows that he is not able to use b12 and it is a good piece to our puzzle.  I am waiting for my younger son's genetic test to come back to confirm that.  For now, we have stopped b12

[Sandrine]

This thread is flying with lots of posts!!!  I can't keep up.

cradle cap~ My dd3's stop showing up when we got rid of wheat. I do recall that it was worse when she also had dairy. So once both of these were out of her diet, her scalp was clear.

[DevaMajka]

K's molar broke :( I started a thread in dental. Why does he keep having issues with his teeth? So frustrating.

[momofmine]

Thanks for the biotin info, everyone.  FireWithin, keep us posted on that, that is odd.

[ASusan]

I have to share with you - perhaps the only women who will understand.

At the daycare pick-up today, DS had a PEANUT BUTTER-pinecone birdfeeder. WTF? The director didn't know if he'd made it or touched it or...AARUGH!!

DS said he didn't make it and that he didn't want one, but, it's in a ziplock bag with his name on it.

And...

I had my first bite of ice cream in over 3 years. YUM! but my throat is all phlegm-y and full.

I'm not around much. DS is doing very well. He is peeing a ton these past few days and also, we think, asking to drink a lot. so we're trying to keep an eye on it and talk to his daycare teacher about it, because she noticed the peeing, too. But then the peanut butter thing, arugh!

[changingseasons]

I'm just going to go ahead and assume they know about his allergies... WOW. That's insane.

Yum for ice cream, but boo for phlegm.

Nobody's around here anymore... everyone is on FB. Are you?

[DevaMajka]

Major boo to the daycare. Wth were they thinking? Or I guess, they probably weren't thinking at all.

I love ice cream. ooohhh, it makes me happy. lol. Sucks that you're phlegmy from it!

[ASusan]

Yes, the daycare knows about the allergies. They said they just didn't think - the feeder was for the birds; the children weren't eating it.

Luckily, DS said he didn't want to do it, and the one with his name on it was an extra.

The strange part is that they have been so careful before -- when they did plaster of paris handprints for Christmas, the teacher asked me if it was OK for DS's hands. I said yes, his left hand, because his right hand is the one that gets eczema on it and the skin is sometimes open.

I'm fine from the ice cream, and I did 2 slices of pizza for lunch. I'm sorry, but I just don't see anything different in my body after I added wheat/flour/eggs back in. I don't overdo it, but it's not like I'm cramping up all over...maybe a TITCH of arthritis in my knee? But that comes and goes and I think it was coming and going when I wasn't eating those things.

I do have to say that DS is doing quite well, allergy-wise. However, he's been peeing frequently and with urgency  for the past 5 days, so DH is taking him in to our family doctor tomorrow.

[capsgirl08]

ASusan---WTF is right.  I can't believe that.  I'm glad your son stood up for himself.  And yay for ice cream!

As a follow-up regarding my dentist/tooth issue...They had no problem with me bringing in my own stuff.  I had a little x-ray done and they covered me up with the apron.  Said they used digital which is 80% weaker than the previous method.  Still feel bad that I went ahead and had the x-ray, but what's done is done.  Turns out I need a root canal.  I asked about pulling the tooth, and the dentist said the rest of my teeth would then start to cave in, and that eventually replacing the tooth would be more expensive than what she has in mind.  She uses no mercury and no amalgam in her office...she described it as a rubbery/tree gum substance, that she eventually crowns with porcelain.

Does all of that sound a-ok for FA, pregnancy, and nursing?  (She wants to start the root canal while I'm pg and then finish the rest after I have the baby...)

Also---DS (2.6) has been telling me he's sleepy and tired every hour or so...Then the other day he told me "Papa's phone is ringing" even though it wasn't.  I thought he was just joking with me, but then last night, DH told me that our son said the same thing in the tub, "Papa, your phone is ringing".  Does anyone have any ideas off the top of their head as to what that could be?  

I was concerned that the sleepy/tired all the time issue is due to the fact that he's still nursing and I'm about 7 months pregnant.  Is he getting my sleepy pregnant lady hormones to the degree that he feels tired, too?  

Ok, sorry for the barrage of questions.  On to make safe pizza!

[Theloose]

tinnitus, maybe?  are you on facebook?

[Panserbjorne]

Originally Posted by tanyalynn 

Originally Posted by Theloose 

For choline, egg yolks, wheat and liver are the highest sources by far (I think one of the masterjohn links in the wiki has a chart).  It seems like it's got to be closely related to this stuff, seeing as we're all cutting out major sources and it's so closely linked to folate.  Might be worth playing with?

All carotenes need to be converted to active (real) vitamin A, and your body can choose not to convert.  So the preformed A (retinol forms) is the only one you have to really worry about.  Unless you're a biochemical freak.  Like most of us are here. (I'm not that well read on the subject, but haven't heard of there ever being issues with ODing on carotenes.)

  I've read of kids turning orange plenty of times, one of the Weston Price articles mentioned it as a bad thing, but I don't remember why.  But it wasn't the small amount in a multi, it was a lot more.  So, if anyone's palms or eyeballs turn orange, stop.   

You laugh, but I've seen it.  It can be a real stress on your liver.  My ds was as orange as am oompa loompa as a child...not the best.   There are mama around here that know me IRL and can attest to it.  IT was....something.   It was active enough in his system that he never ever ever had any sensitivity to the sun though!

[WuWei]

Orange with a lot of betacarotene here. I believe JR mentioned this is more of a concern for people with thyroid issues??

Pat

[Panserbjorne]

it's certainly indicative of a low functioning thyroid, but I believe the origins are the liver (technically.)  At least from what I recall.

[lil_miss_understood]

Betacarotene conversion issues  with hypo, yes.

City day and staying off FB for the day.

eta: oh yeah, so i was installing skype yesterday and asked dh if i could use it on my computer.. he was like "probably, but you might have to decrease your tabs from 600 to 100 or so" :bag It's all biochem, homeschooling, allergies and recipes...

[DevaMajka]

Me too, off FB for the day :)

[lil_miss_understood]

for some reason, the cursor moved to the top of the page and i can't make it move back.. it says it's at the bottom but its typing at the top.so other than it being incredibly busy out today, i had a decent day (once you get past the argument with dh in Costco and the political/sociological argument in the car on the way home :\ ). looking forward to sleep though as i stayed up WAY too late (3am) at which point ds3 woke up and decided he'd stay up til 5ish.. then got up around 8-8:30ish. oh my bed.. how do i love thee..

Heavens above! Everybody was out shopping today, and I swear they broght their entire extended families!

[lil_miss_understood]

Karen,

Despite my best intentions for the day, I ended up on your FB page just now... I am now getting off of FB (again) and have decided that I'm not "allowed" to post there (despite my apparent addiction... *tremble tremble*)...

So, I will post here and hope that you read it...

I am so sorry you are unwell and hurting. I hope that you feel better soon and that this most painful time passes as you need it to do, whether that is fast or slow, loudly or quietly.. Whatever will help you heal some in order to cope best with the similar times which will come in the future. Please let me know what I can do to help you, if anything.