I have a question

[plantnerd]

Is the pathogens themselves or the other ingredients in vaccines you object to?

[Marnica]

Both, although moreso to the other ingredients

[chaoticzenmom]

The pathogens are a concern for me because they give the body an illness to fight when there really is none which can trigger auto-immune disorders.  If it were just that though, I would probably still do the vaccines. 

The other ingredients are known neurotoxins and poisons.  It just doesn't make sense to inject those things into the body, especially a newborn's body.

Top that with all of the conflicts of interest and creepy actions of the people who are responsible for deciding what goes into the vaccines that would be injected into my child.

[LilyRN]

I'm not sure that I am someone you are asking, since we do vax (selective/delayed), but I am concerned about several things:

a) We selectively vax because I am concerned about putting unnecessary things (pathogens or otherwise) into my DS's body. For instance, we skip the hep B and hep A series, because neither I nor DH has hepatitis, neither is DS likely to contract it.

b) We delay vax because I am concerned about the AMOUNT of pathogens and preservatives, etc., being put into my DS's body at one time. For example, there are 3 vaccines that the AAP recommends for his 12 month appointment that I want him to receive. (Hib, PCV, and MMR.) However, that is actually FIVE vaccines, since MMR contains 3. Also, I am concerned about the live virus factor of MMR. We will probably do Hib at 12 months, PCV at 15 months, and probably delay the MMR until age 2-3.

HTH.

[Marnica]

Originally Posted by LilyRN 

I'm not sure that I am someone you are asking, since we do vax (selective/delayed), but I am concerned about several things:

a) We selectively vax because I am concerned about putting unnecessary things (pathogens or otherwise) into my DS's body. For instance, we skip the hep B and hep A series, because neither I nor DH has hepatitis, neither is DS likely to contract it.

b) We delay vax because I am concerned about the AMOUNT of pathogens and preservatives, etc., being put into my DS's body at one time. For example, there are 3 vaccines that the AAP recommends for his 12 month appointment that I want him to receive. (Hib, PCV, and MMR.) However, that is actually FIVE vaccines, since MMR contains 3. Also, I am concerned about the live virus factor of MMR. We will probably do Hib at 12 months, PCV at 15 months, and probably delay the MMR until age 2-3.

HTH.

If you are looking at it like 1 pathogen = 1 vaccine, than this would be 17 vaccines since the PCV vaccine covers 13 strains of bacteria
 

[miriam]

Do you work with a pharmaceutical company?

As a lifelong nonvaxer, I object to the government coerced practice of vaccination since this practice has never been shown to work.  

TYVM.

[Otto]

Originally Posted by miriam 

Do you work with a pharmaceutical company?

I don't see where there's any basis to drag out the accusation of being a "pharma shill" against the OP.

[Marnica]

I don't see PP as an accusation, merely a question.

 

Originally Posted by Otto 

Originally Posted by miriam 

Do you work with a pharmaceutical company?

I don't see where there's any basis to drag out the accusation of being a "pharma shill" against the OP.

[plantnerd]

Originally Posted by miriam 

Do you work with a pharmaceutical company?

As a lifelong nonvaxer, I object to the government coerced practice of vaccination since this practice has never been shown to work.  

TYVM.

No, I'm not.  Just curious.  I had no idea there was also conspiracy theory involved, so thanks for that.

[kriket]

Both. I am skeptical of things made by people being totally necessary for good health. I am also skeptical of medicating of the well.

[miriam]

In three states, the CDC itself has paid nonvaxing parents money and plied them with continental breakfasts to attend all day questions sessions asking the very question and similar questions as in the opening post.  That is why I asked it.  

[Otto]

Are you referring to this?

[Edit for more general link.]

Edited by Otto - 1/6/11 at 10:16pm