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How To Convince A Mainstream Dentist That I Can Cure My Teeth With Diet?

post #1 of 6
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I've just started eating primal; partly to improve my overall health, but also to try and heal cavities in my teeth. According to an x-ray I got at the dentist, I have decay between two teeth. In order to get fillings the dentist will need to drill through healthy tooth to get to the area, and I can also only afford mercury fillings, which I really don't want. So I plan to avoid the treatment for atleast 6 months and try to heal them myself using the methods of Weston Price and a couple of other dentists. I'm also taking a vitamin D supplement.

 

The problem is, my dentist is very mainstream. I went in today to get an appointment to talk to her next week, but how do I convince her of this without sounding like a complete nutcase? The receptionist was bad enough! She told me that the cavity can't be cured and will continue to spread no matter what I do. She obviously thought I was crazy for even suggesting I could heal them.

All I can really think of to do is give the dentist the names of people such as Weston Price, and hope she might read into them. I know the receptionist is wrong; I wouldn't want to do this if I wasn't sure they can be healed.

 

So any advice on how to approach my dentist would be great, thanks in advance for any help.

post #2 of 6

Why do you need to convince the dentist? Can't you just say you want your teeth cleaned (or whatever it is you do want from her) but not the cavities filled? 

 

But to answer your question: are there any studies that show that you *can* heal your cavities with diet? Not anecdotal internet accounts, but double blind, preferably peer-reviewed, scientific method studies? That would go a long way towards winning her over, I would think. 

 

Also: how long does it take to heal your teeth? Six months? A year? What are we talking about here? If you could go in in six months with no cavities, that would be pretty compelling as well.

post #3 of 6
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The main reason I want to discuss it with her is because I want to find out what stage the decay is at. If it's advanced it won't be healed, but if it's minor it'll be possible. There are at least two proper studies which have been put online; there's a link on this page http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2010/12/dr-mellanbys-tooth-decay-reversal-diet.html to the studies it refers to, and also here is Weston Price's work; http://journeytoforever.org/farm_library/price/pricetoc.html I also read a book by this man http://www.curetoothdecay.com/about_us.htm which helped convince me. The thing is, we can heal every other part of our body, so why wouldn't we be able to heal teeth?

 

I'll certainly suggest she reads up on Weston Price and Dr Mellanby, as they have both done proper studies, but to be honest, I don't expect her to. Ideally I'd like to give it a year and then go back for an x-ray to see if there's any improvement. Apparently improvements should start to appear at around 6 months. I've also read several accounts of people on the paleo diet who have found that there teeth have improved. No more pains or sensitivities.

 

I'm always worrying about my teeth, and I wouldn't risk this if I didn't truly believe it worked.

post #4 of 6

First off, you have to understand what the dentist means when she says you can't cure them with diet and what WAP people mean when they say you can.  You cannot rebuild what has already decayed.  You can stop more decay from happening and make a protective coating on the cavities that you already have.  When you accomplish this, it will protect your teeth and your health, but it will not be pretty.  It will be black.  As you introduce more nourishing foods into your diet, the color of the cavities will get darker.  This is a good sign, but freaks a lot of people out.  When the decay has arrested, it will be black.

 

This is not what most people think of when they are talking about curing their cavities.  Your dentist wouldn't consider them "cured" when this happens, though if it does, she probably wouldn't consider your health to be at risk.  She would just push you to get the fillings done for cosmetic reasons.  In my experience, though, many mainstream dentists do know that sometimes cavities do stop growing.  My daughter's dentist seems to think that the color sometimes changes, but he doesn't know why.  Sometimes it happens when there's a drastic change in diet.

 

You have to decide what you want for your health and your body, and that is not your dentist's decision to make.  Your dentist is going to tell you that you should get them filled as soon as possible and will inform you of the risks of not doing so.  That way, if something goes wrong, you can't sue her.  She'll tell you that the cavities will get bigger, and fixing them will be even more invasive.  She'll tell you that you may need a root canal or may lose the teeth altogether if you don't do it now.  She'll tell you that you'll need antibiotics or risk a brain infection.  All of these things can happen if the cavities continue to grow, so if you want to fix them with diet, you need to be pretty dedicated.

 

Diet is certainly a treatment option.  It might not look great, but it's IMHO, it's better looking then amalgam and a whole lot safer.  We have been fighting decay in my daughter for over a year, and the progression of the cavities have been minimal.  We have not completely arrested the growth of the cavities, but they are growing very slowly.  It's harder to fight tooth decay in young children because it's hard to convince them to eat all the special foods.  In a dedicated adult, the progress should be much quicker, weeks or months.  Thankfully for us, the affected teeth are baby teeth and will fall out sometime in the next 5 or so years.

 

I would say that diet is an excellent option if you are unable to afford non-amalgam fillings at this time.  You can go on and see how things go, and if you decide later that you want to get them filled or not.  If you can't see the cavities, they may or may not actually be there.  Some dentists misdiagnose cavities, and somebody else might have a different opinion.  They will cause pain before they become a problem for your overall health.

 

As far as talking with your dentist is concerned, she is highly educated, and she certainly isn't going to believe that you are going to be successful.  You are not going to convince her because you do not have a Doctorate degree and years of successful experience treating cavities with nutrition.  The only thing that you're going to convince her is that if she wants to remain your dentist, she has to respect your right to choose your own medical care.  She'll probably leave the appointment expecting (or hoping) to see you back in a few months for a root canal.

 

The agreement that you are likely to reach is a "wait and see" approach.  You can tell her that you have been reading about slowing and maybe even stopping the progress of the decay (Don't say curing, because she'll think something different) and building secondary dentin with a nutrient-rich diet, and you want to give it a try before you do something more invasive.  She will likely want to see you sooner than you otherwise would (3 months or so).  The actual evidence of the cavities failing to live up to her doom and gloom predictions will be what convinces her that what you're doing is OK, and then she'll only believe that you were lucky, not smart.

 

In my own experience with my daughter, I know she has the cavities.  That's why I took her to a dentist when I did.  It helped to hold him off because she was under a year old at the time, and they would have to put her under GA to fix it.  He understood my concerns with GA.  He had us come in 3 months later and claimed that it had progressed significantly (almost none in my opinion) and again recommended that we put her under to fix them.  We came in 3 months later, and the entire mood changed.  He said that he couldn't see any progress, admitted that the change in color meant the decay was slowing, and recommended that we come back in 6 months instead of 3.  I think he's finally starting to realize that we've been successful... or at least lucky.  Hopefully, these teeth will last her a few more years until she gets some new ones, and if they become a problem, we'll have them pulled before putting her under.  We keep going to this dentist because he says that he can pull a baby tooth on an awake and squirming child in just a few seconds... not something he likes to do, but I'd rather have that than GA.  We'll keep up with the diet and hope that it never comes to that.

post #5 of 6

Well, maybe she'd compromise if you tried perscription strenghth toothpaste (clinpro is one brand) it has more flouride that other pastes, or one of those pro-namel pastes? Also, you need to religiously floss, floss, floss.....

post #6 of 6

The short answer is, you can't. If you want to find out how advanced the decay is, discuss that. Normally the dentist is happy to show your xrays and answer questions. There's no need to discuss nutrition just to find out how bad the cavities are. Listen to her advice, and when you get to the receptionist's desk, tell them you can't make an appointment til you take a look at your budget. They will be fine with that.

 

If you are going to stay with this dentist and want to maintain a friendly tone for future visits, don't bother trying to convince her. Just don't commit to the fillings, blame lack of funds and whatever plan she wants to go forward with, let her know you'll look at your budget and think about it.

 

Then if at any point you want to go back in for an exam or further treatment, just call and make the appt. then.

 

I hear from my dentist at every visit about him wanting to take out my wisdom teeth. I always listen and respond politely, so it's become a cliche with us to do some good natured banter about it. He works for me, and he knows I understand that. So he just jokes with me about it "so, you here to get those wisdom teeth out?" "nope, just a cleaning today, thanks!!"
 

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