Teen Mom 2! - Page 2

[neetling]

I think her dad is a good guy with her best interests at heart and a huge source of support for her.  I don't however agree with the decision to fund her and her friend their own house.  He's got to know or suspect that it would bring Adam back around and I'm so nit sure about that kid.  I don't think she's learning any responsibility if Daddy is still footing all the bills and she just gets to play house.

Originally Posted by mazajo 

Does anybody else just love Chelsea's dad? I think he's doing everything absolutely right in regards to having a teenage kid with a baby. He's supportive and encouraging and not judgemental, he's not just giving her a free ride and doing everything for her, but he's enabling her to be able to take care of herself and her baby while (hopefully) building a future where she can be completely on her own. I hope she realizes how lucky she is to have him. Too bad all the teen moms can't have parents like that.

[gbailey]

I agree with the poster who said Kailyn needs to get some support and move out of Joe's house.  It seems like such an uncomfortable situation to be in. I think Joe is rude. I also think Kailyn is very young and immature. I feel bad for her because I feel like she relies on Joe's parents to give her the love she's not getting from her own mother and father. The situation is so unfortunate.

I like Leah. She seems really responsible and wants the best for her babies.

[phathui5]

I'm watching the episode from last week with the 4th of July. I know that Jenelle's mom is in a tough position, but it seems like Jenelle just can't win. She managed to get a job and showed up at the house with a big box of diapers and her mom is criticizing her for getting stuff for herself too.

[SuburbanHippie]

I don't understand the double standard with Jenelle's mom. She wants her buying stuff for Jace, but she can't take him anywhere?  If she signed over the parental rights, should she still be responsible for day to day care?  The dynamic is interesting and dysfunctional.

[Tilia]

What a sad episode.  All of the girls are making bad choices it seems.  At least very fast ones.  All the moving in, switching men, etc.

[Drummer's Wife]

I still feel bad for Jenelle.  I agree that the dynamics of her relationship with her mom are just awful.  She's pretty much stuck, and probably feels like she can't win, regardless of how she behaves.  Her mom's facial expressions while meeting Keifer were priceless. 

I'm torn about Kailyn and Jo; it was really nice of him to loan her the money for school (I assume she can't get financial aid b/c they count his family's income?), but I know they aren't happy together, and saw pics of her with that new guy taken a couple weeks ago, so I assume she has moved on, in real time. 

It does seem quick for Leah to be moving in  (I can't think of his name), but since they are happily married now, I guess it all worked out. 

Chelsea - I think Adam is a loser, but what do I know.   He is pretty young and immature, and just maybe he'll grow up and take responsibility for his daughter this time.  I haven't paid any attention to the media regarding them, so I'm not sure if he really is still around, or came back b/c of Teen Mom. 

[nola79]

I feel so bad for Jenelle. Her mother is just ridiculous. She constantly belittles her and does not give her credit for anything she does right. She also seems very manipulative. Now, I am not a huge fan of Jenelle but seeing the dynamic between her and her mom explains a lot. This show is casting her in a whole new light.

Kailyn and Jo, I don't know. He seems like a UAV but maybe it's just the cameras? And what is up with her mom? It's so sad she doesn't have any family to rely on but Jo's.

I am glad Corey and Leah moved back in together. They both seem committed to their daughters and making the relationship work.

I also don't agree with Chelsea's dad's decision to rent a house for her. It is not teaching her any responsibility, she still has not passed her high school level classes. I'm sure he's going to be pissed when he finds out Adam moved in. I also wonder about Adam's motives....not many people do a 180 degree turn around like that and are sincere about it.

[Hannah32]

But sadly, Jenelle is just like her mom, from what I can see. Just a younger version. 

[SuburbanHippie]

I agree that Chelsea's dad isn't teaching her any responsibility by letting her play house while he foots all the bills.  I really hope she gets her studies done so she can graduate, but with Adam moving in... I just don't see that in the cards.

Jenelle is also not making very good decisions.  I was pleasantly surprised when the college admissions lady told her she was a good student.  I hope she drops her unemployed, high school dropout boyfriend.  He is going to drag her down.  He doesn't seem to have much motivation.

I can't believe Kailynn doesn't qualify for financial aid.  I wonder if she even applied for FAFSA.  If she did, she could have taken out student loans to cover tuition and expenses at least.  If she did fill it out, but didn't qualify her mom must make decent money.  She has to report her parents' earnings until she is 24.  Jo's family has nothing to do with it unless they legally adopted her.  Her whole situation makes me so sad.

[stelly]

I think Jenelle and her mother would benefit from some sort of counseling on how to communicate effectively.  There is so much shouting and nagging and cursing it seems.  Jenelle's Mom doesn't seem to be able to let any issue go past without doing it to death.  Perhaps if the two of them could sit and discuss instead of shouting accusations, they might get on better and Jace might grow up in a calmer atmosphere?

I really like what I see of Leah and Corey.  I felt bad for Chelsea's Dad who clearly thinks along the same lines as me where Adam is concerned (I can't forget that text he sent her when Aubree was a newborn.).

[nola79]

Originally Posted by SuburbanHippie 

I agree that Chelsea's dad isn't teaching her any responsibility by letting her play house while he foots all the bills.  I really hope she gets her studies done so she can graduate, but with Adam moving in... I just don't see that in the cards.

Jenelle is also not making very good decisions.  I was pleasantly surprised when the college admissions lady told her she was a good student.  I hope she drops her unemployed, high school dropout boyfriend.  He is going to drag her down.  He doesn't seem to have much motivation.

I can't believe Kailynn doesn't qualify for financial aid.  I wonder if she even applied for FAFSA.  If she did, she could have taken out student loans to cover tuition and expenses at least.  If she did fill it out, but didn't qualify her mom must make decent money.  She has to report her parents' earnings until she is 24.  Jo's family has nothing to do with it unless they legally adopted her.  Her whole situation makes me so sad.

Agreed. I thought the same thing when the admissions lady said Jenelle was a good student, lol. Wasn't expecting that. Oh, and that boyfriend....he's got to go. When he was telling his "story" to her mom, I just kept thinking, BS! No job, no car, no plan or ambition. Jenelle needs to focus on school and work and be alone for awhile.

Ok, I was wondering the same thing about Kailyn not qualifying for financial aid. The way I remember it, you have to report the earning of whomever you're living with. I guess that's why, Jo's parents make too much money.
 

[phathui5]

My goodness. Jenelle's mom started in on her the second she walked in the door. What kind of a greeting is "Where the he7l were you?" And then she goes on and on about the hickeys, as if having made out with someone makes you a bad person. I understand that Jenelle isn't responsible and consistantly makes bad choices, but her mom isn't doing anything to help their communication.

[SuburbanHippie]

For financial aid, you need your parents' info until you are 24.  It doesn't matter who you live with.  My 22yo sister lives with me, but has to use call our mom every year to find out her info for FAFSA.

[CourtBChase]

Originally Posted by SuburbanHippie 

For financial aid, you need your parents' info until you are 24.  It doesn't matter who you live with.  My 22yo sister lives with me, but has to use call our mom every year to find out her info for FAFSA.

Actually, if you are a parent, you become an independent minor, and they only base your aid on your own income.  There are other exceptions as well, I believe for veterans and children who have been in foster care.

[SuburbanHippie]

Court- That makes sense, but I still can't see her part time job making her income (for 2) so much that she can't even get a student loan.  There's just something not right there.

gbailey- Interesting spoiler!  I can't wait to see how that all plays out!

[motherhendoula]

Cailyn mentioned the entire the bill was only $1500.  Plus i dont think she is enrolled in a 4 yr college or university - i think its a two yr. dental hygenist program ....i dont think i was able to get financial aid when i went to a community college for my Associates degree...i think  she doesnt need to borrow enough money to be eligible for loans - i thought i remembered a minimum of some sort - BUT, that was a while ago for me!

I LOVE Corey...im glad they are back together - Leah seems so immature, but so well meaning and sweet...and Corey was one of the only Dads that right away stepped up - got a second job, sold his big ridiculous truck etc..etc...  i was wondering what was up with not getting any more info about their daughter.

I think Jennelle and her Mom have been like this for YEARS - dont you get the feeling that Jennelle has been out 'partying' since she was very young - im sure her Mom has been at the end of her rope for a very long time - Jennelle mentioned remembering her Dad and that she loved him and he was fun to be around ...and then one day he was GONE, and she didnt want that for Jace.....I'd bet her Mom had her own burden for years - (not that she deals with it all that well!)

and Chelsea is ridiculous for even answering the phone for Adam - much less inviting him to move into the house her FATHER is paying for!  what is she thinking??

[annettemarie]

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[SuburbanHippie]

Any thoughts on this week's episode?

I was disappointed in Chelsea's dad caving so easily.  "I want him to move out" quickly turned into "well I hope he helps out."  My jaw hit the floor.

I felt a little bad for Leah.  Corey kind of reminded me of my DH at first.  He totally had no clue on what to do with a baby so I had to like teach him everything like I was his mother.  It's annoying.  Leah seemed pretty lonely.  I hope she stumbles upon a parenting forum where she can find some mommy friends.

Jo and Kailyn are certainly in a predicament.  Two homeless kids with a baby.  Not particularly ideal. 

Jenelle...  Oh, what to say about Jenelle.  Her mom really flipped her lid when Jenelle asked her for her tax info for financial aid.  I can understand her being upset if she asked her at the very last minute, but good grief.  How do you expect her to grow up if you keep holding her back?  Give her the 1040 and let her get her education.  It drives me batty that they keep saying "You're Jace's mom.  You don't take care of him."  Uh, yeah, remember that whole signing away the parental rights?  Do you want her to parent Jace or not?  So many mixed signals in that house.  I can't stand it.

[Tilia]

This show is crazy-making this year.

I'm starting to get more annoyed with Chelsea.  Why won't she finish her school work?  Yet she always has her hair and nails done.

Why can't Jenelle go to bed early one night so she can watch her son in the morning?

[hjdmom24]

I love this show too. As far a Jenelle..I feel very bad for her. Her mother is a control freak and a bully..no surprise when jenelle tries to bully her right back..it's all she knows! I don't understand why Kailynn cannot get more help. We have a great program in our community where single mothers can go to live and get help finding a job, a home and learn parenting and life skills..I so wish I could go get Kailynn and Jenelle and bring them to it. I see so many who go through the program again and again because they are to lazy to help themselves but those two girls are the type that would do really well and deserve something like that. Surely their communities have something more for them... I wish someone would point them to their resources! I really liked Chelsea in 16 and pregnant but not so much anymore. She is wrong for letting Adam move into the house her father is paying for and is starting to seem like an entitled brat. But at least she seems to take good care of her daughter. I like leah and Corey and think they will have their ups and downs but they will be alright. I hope they get some answers about ali soon(well I'm sure they have by now)..that has to be so agonizing not knowing. The only thing I dislike about these shows is that i want to take all the girls home with me and help them out..and the fact that I'm 33 and can still relate to alot of it since i am a dating single mother.