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post #41 of 134
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I couldn't believe Chelsea's dad, either. He really needs to put his foot down. As far as Chelsea, come on girl, it's only a GED. She's not even in college yet! How hard can it be??

 

Jenelle, Jenelle, Jenelle....as soon as I start to feel bad for her, she goes and does something completely irresponsible like sleep in and not show up to watch her son. I don't know, her and her mom need some serious counseling. So many issues there.

 

As far as Kailyn, I have a feeling that if she would have called Jo's parents herself, they would have let her stay. I do hope she can find some aid, she really needs it to get on her feet. The poor girl is doing everything right and just has no support system.

 

I was surprised by Corey. In the 16 and pregnant episode, I remember Leah going out and him taking care of the newborn girls. What happened? Maybe living with his parents spoiled him?

post #42 of 134

I totally agree with all of this...

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I couldn't believe Chelsea's dad, either. He really needs to put his foot down. As far as Chelsea, come on girl, it's only a GED. She's not even in college yet! How hard can it be??

 

Jenelle, Jenelle, Jenelle....as soon as I start to feel bad for her, she goes and does something completely irresponsible like sleep in and not show up to watch her son. I don't know, her and her mom need some serious counseling. So many issues there.

 

As far as Kailyn, I have a feeling that if she would have called Jo's parents herself, they would have let her stay. I do hope she can find some aid, she really needs it to get on her feet. The poor girl is doing everything right and just has no support system.

 

I was surprised by Corey. In the 16 and pregnant episode, I remember Leah going out and him taking care of the newborn girls. What happened? Maybe living with his parents spoiled him?

post #43 of 134

And I totally agree with all of this too!

 

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I love this show too. As far a Jenelle..I feel very bad for her. Her mother is a control freak and a bully..no surprise when jenelle tries to bully her right back..it's all she knows! I don't understand why Kailynn cannot get more help. We have a great program in our community where single mothers can go to live and get help finding a job, a home and learn parenting and life skills..I so wish I could go get Kailynn and Jenelle and bring them to it. I see so many who go through the program again and again because they are to lazy to help themselves but those two girls are the type that would do really well and deserve something like that. Surely their communities have something more for them... I wish someone would point them to their resources! I really liked Chelsea in 16 and pregnant but not so much anymore. She is wrong for letting Adam move into the house her father is paying for and is starting to seem like an entitled brat. But at least she seems to take good care of her daughter. I like leah and Corey and think they will have their ups and downs but they will be alright. I hope they get some answers about ali soon(well I'm sure they have by now)..that has to be so agonizing not knowing. The only thing I dislike about these shows is that i want to take all the girls home with me and help them out..and the fact that I'm 33 and can still relate to alot of it since i am a dating single mother.

post #44 of 134

Has anyone noticed how rude Kailyn is?  She never says thank you.  Whenever she left an appointment, she just got up and walked out.  When her BIL gave her a ride to school she didn't even thank him, just got out.  She seems kinda sassy.

 

 

I was super surprised to see that Jo's dad kicked him out.  Is something else going on?  The were bickering over laundry, who cares?  I cannot imagine kicking out my child, much less him, his gf and a baby!  I mean he has a job, she has a job and goes to school.  They take good care of the baby.  What is wrong with them?

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Has anyone noticed how rude Kailyn is?  She never says thank you.  Whenever she left an appointment, she just got up and walked out.  When her BIL gave her a ride to school she didn't even thank him, just got out.  She seems kinda sassy.

 

 

I was super surprised to see that Jo's dad kicked him out.  Is something else going on?  The were bickering over laundry, who cares?  I cannot imagine kicking out my child, much less him, his gf and a baby!  I mean he has a job, she has a job and goes to school.  They take good care of the baby.  What is wrong with them?



 I hadn't noticed the rudeness, I'll have to be more observant next episode.

 

To be honest, Jo seems like a total UAV and I can definitley see him and his dad getting into it....remember on the phone when he told Kailyn his dad was a "disrespectful piece of s#%&?"

Who says that about their own parent?? Who's letting you, your gf, and your baby live there rent free? I think the "disprespectful you know what" is Jo!

 

Oh, wanted to add, the kicking out happened when the dad had a talk with Jo, much like the one he had with Kailyn saying that he didn't want to hear their bickering in his house....then Jo "went off on him", and told him to mind of own business. So, to me, no wonder he got kicked out.

post #46 of 134

I have noticed that Kailyn doesn't say than k you often.  I do feel bad for her as she doesn't seem to have any real support from her mother and is sort of stuck.  I wonder if these families don't get paid for participating in the show.  It seems like if they did, there wouldn't be as many money issues.

 

I think Jenelle and her mom have a terrible dynamic.  I wouldn't want to go home either if I were being berated all the time, but I do think she brings a bunch of it on herself with her immature actions.

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I have noticed that Kailyn doesn't say than k you often.  I do feel bad for her as she doesn't seem to have any real support from her mother and is sort of stuck.  I wonder if these families don't get paid for participating in the show.  It seems like if they did, there wouldn't be as many money issues.

 

I think Jenelle and her mom have a terrible dynamic.  I wouldn't want to go home either if I were being berated all the time, but I do think she brings a bunch of it on herself with her immature actions.



 I was wondering the same thing about the pay issue.

 

Jennelle and her mom is comparable to "what came first, the chicken, or the egg?"

Is Jennelle's mom just exasperated and at the end of her rope, and plain sick and tired of dealing with Jennelle's antics? (not that I think it's ok to berate your child) Or, does Jennelle act like that because no matter what she does or how she acts, nothing is ever good enough.

 

Such a strange situation. I mean, I get the feeling that Jennelle's mom does not want Jennelle to succeed. She won't fill out the paperwork for college, she doesn't seem to give Jennelle positive feedback on any good things she does. Maybe it's a control issue? But why?  Ahhhhhh, these people make my head spin! dizzy.gif

post #48 of 134

I'm pretty sure they get paid. But we can't discuss that.

post #49 of 134

I totally agree. I feel Jenelle's mom doesn't want her to succeed. I know Jenelle's behavior often leaves a lot to be desired but I don't believe the mom every set clear boundaries for her. Now that Jenelle is a parent she wants to enforce rules that likely were never enforced at all.  I feel like Jenelle would be better off getting her life together and moving out on her own. I feel like her mom views Jace as her second chance at parenting.

 

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I have noticed that Kailyn doesn't say than k you often.  I do feel bad for her as she doesn't seem to have any real support from her mother and is sort of stuck.  I wonder if these families don't get paid for participating in the show.  It seems like if they did, there wouldn't be as many money issues.

 

I think Jenelle and her mom have a terrible dynamic.  I wouldn't want to go home either if I were being berated all the time, but I do think she brings a bunch of it on herself with her immature actions.



 I was wondering the same thing about the pay issue.

 

Jennelle and her mom is comparable to "what came first, the chicken, or the egg?"

Is Jennelle's mom just exasperated and at the end of her rope, and plain sick and tired of dealing with Jennelle's antics? (not that I think it's ok to berate your child) Or, does Jennelle act like that because no matter what she does or how she acts, nothing is ever good enough.

 

Such a strange situation. I mean, I get the feeling that Jennelle's mom does not want Jennelle to succeed. She won't fill out the paperwork for college, she doesn't seem to give Jennelle positive feedback on any good things she does. Maybe it's a control issue? But why?  Ahhhhhh, these people make my head spin! dizzy.gif

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I totally agree. I feel Jenelle's mom doesn't want her to succeed. I know Jenelle's behavior often leaves a lot to be desired but I don't believe the mom every set clear boundaries for her. Now that Jenelle is a parent she wants to enforce rules that likely were never enforced at all.  I feel like Jenelle would be better off getting her life together and moving out on her own. I feel like her mom views Jace as her second chance at parenting.

 

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I have noticed that Kailyn doesn't say than k you often.  I do feel bad for her as she doesn't seem to have any real support from her mother and is sort of stuck.  I wonder if these families don't get paid for participating in the show.  It seems like if they did, there wouldn't be as many money issues.

 

I think Jenelle and her mom have a terrible dynamic.  I wouldn't want to go home either if I were being berated all the time, but I do think she brings a bunch of it on herself with her immature actions.



 I was wondering the same thing about the pay issue.

 

Jennelle and her mom is comparable to "what came first, the chicken, or the egg?"

Is Jennelle's mom just exasperated and at the end of her rope, and plain sick and tired of dealing with Jennelle's antics? (not that I think it's ok to berate your child) Or, does Jennelle act like that because no matter what she does or how she acts, nothing is ever good enough.

 

Such a strange situation. I mean, I get the feeling that Jennelle's mom does not want Jennelle to succeed. She won't fill out the paperwork for college, she doesn't seem to give Jennelle positive feedback on any good things she does. Maybe it's a control issue? But why?  Ahhhhhh, these people make my head spin! dizzy.gif


 


Absolutely! (to the bolded) Especially now that Jennelle's mom has a stable partner in her life (the boyfriend.) I remember her and Jennelle talking about Jennelle's dad leaving, so I'm sure the mom considers Jace a do-over in parenting.
 

post #51 of 134

I watched this weeks episode, and I'm addicted to this show. Some people are saying it is like watching a train wreck and I admit in some ways it is, but in other ways I can relate so much to the girls.

 

Chelsea, I give her props for being an attentive, loving, nurturing mom. The house is messy, but so is mine! She is beginning to act a little spoiled and I think her dad needs to insist that she get a part time job. Even if it's just waitressing on the weekends while Adam is at  home (since he's already moved in), she needs to be held to a bit of a higher standard imo. She needs to pay *something*-- light bill, celll phone, something. And don't even get me started on Adam. I hope he proves me wrong, but this imo is a classic abusive relationship, and from personal experience the honeymoon period only gets shorter and shorter each time I don't things going smoothly for long, and chelsea will be devastated because she really does seem to want that intact family for her baby.

 

Leah and Cory are SO cute. I think Leah has trouble leaving them with Cory now because she has been the primary parent for these past few months. Plus there are the medical issues surrounding one baby that mgiht make her a little overprotective. when cory called her up, I wish she would have told him to deal with it rather than running home to save him. He would have figured it out.

 

Jenelle--I think that the situation is not going to get any better until Jenelle moves out of her house and gets some counseling and AWAY from hermother. I absolutely positively cannot stand her immature behavior, but I had a mother who pulled passive aggressive control thigns too (like the 1040 form thing) and it can be crazy making. I don't blame her for not wanting to be there. M issue with her is that she didn't seek a way to get out AND take her child with her, before it escalated to the point of signing over custody. Now, her mother essentially has all the control, because she is using Jace as leverage. It's really sick and frank;ly I have less respect and sympathy for her mother than I do for Jenelle, even though Jenelle can be a total brat and doesn't ahve the best parenitg skills, because Jenelle is SEVENTEEN, and her mnother is a grown woman who knows better and just doesn't care.

 

Kailyn--I feel for her because she doesn't feel wanted anywhere, and I knopw how painful that is.  I do kind of hope that things will work out with her and Jo...he does seem like a jerk, but I think that now that he's been kicked out he might eb realizing how much he was taking for granted. I understand why he was upset about him taking the baby to Jersey, but I give him credit that he did think it hrough and think about what would be best for his child as compared to Jenelle who constantly took off 9prior to the custody thing) and escaped her mom's house, leaving her child behind. Kailyn has been through so much and I think she ios really vulnerable in many ways, but at the same tie she has a lot of inner toughness that makes me think she and her son will be ok no matter what. She is clearly committed to creating the best future possible for him.

 

I really just wish I could buy a big house and let them all mvoe in and help them out. Having been pregnatn and alone at 19 I can only imagine how they must be feeling trying to navigate all this on their own.

post #52 of 134
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Wow. This week's episode was crazy-making! Mostly Chelsea, so I'll start with her.

I have lost all respect for Chelsea. And her dad. I mean, seriously, I cannot believe she chose Adam over her best friend. Well, I can believe it, but it was crappy of her to do. Her whole "I don't want to get involved" stance made me want to jump through the tv and shake some sense into her. Megan has been there for her and Aubree and Adam is just a UAV who, as far as I can tell, is using and abusing her.

On to Chelsea's dad....he needs to pull the plug on that whole living situation immidiately. Actually, he should have grabbed Adam and literally thrown him out of that house himself.

 

Kailyn, I like her, but I think she'd be smart to keep her feelings to herself for now until she can afford to move out. I really don't get Jo's parents at all. Why are they so concerned about the status of Kailyn and Jo's relationship. Either they want to help her out or they don't. They say they'll always be there for her and Isaac, but their actions say otherwise.

 

Jenelle got on my nerves this episode. She says she tries, but I don't see her trying that hard to see Jace. She was there for 5 min and then left. At the bday party she just looked like she couldn't wait to get out of there. I'm glad her mom gave her the paperwork needed for school and I hope she can get her act together. As usual, her mom annoyed me. Same ol stuff with her.

 

Leah and Corey are cute. I'm glad they're together. I don't really understand why their friends and family are so concerned with them moving too fast. I mean, they already have 2 children, come on.

 

post #53 of 134

I wished Chelsea's dad would have pushed him out of the house, too! I can't believe he's letting this go on. I've respected him so much throughout the series, and I just don't understand why he isn't being a little firmer in this situation. He needs to be able to look down the road that Chelsea is too young/immature to look down herself and just stop it all now. 

 

As far as Chelsea herself goes, I can't believe she picked him over Megan, either. When Megan was leaving and said something along the lines of "I was there for her EVERY time he hurt her", I was so sad for her. She was a great friend to Chelsea. I really, really hope they can reconcile, and that Adam will either grow up or leave her life. It would be good for Aubree to at least be able to see her father and have a good relationship with him, but not if he's not treating her mother well.

 

I think Kailyn is very, very immature. I have noticed what other posters said about her being rude also...the day she desperately needed a ride and Jo's brother gave her one, she didn't seem appreciative at all. Same thing when Jo gave her the $600 to go to school. I couldn't believe that he had it, and was willing to give it to her, and she barely mumbled a thank you! However, I have problems with Jo's parents, too. Forced relationships aren't good and it seems like they keep trying to push the two together when they don't get along, and both Jo and Kailyn should really be focused on growing up and maturing right now, not making a failing relationship work. I wish they would help them come up with productive ideas instead of always being like "Are you going to stay together or not?".

 

Leah and Corey are adorable. I think they're definitely the most level-headed and mature ones. They're married now, and I really think they have a chance at making it in the long run. The family photos in this episode were so cute. In the preview for next week's episode, though, there was a moment where Leah was crying to someone on the phone about how the baby's problem might be in her brain...that made me start crying! It's so sad how she wonders if it was her fault for not being big enough, too :( She's young and I can imagine that being a very real and devastating fear for someone her age.
 

I just feel bad for Jenelle, the more and more I see of her mom. Her mom is crazy. Of course Jenelle doesn't try very hard- every time she does try, she gets shot down. If I was her, I'd want to get out of there, too. The tension in the room must be crazy, and I feel so bad for baby Jace with all of the yelling. I felt bad about the present, too. Jenelle doesn't really have any idea what's age appropriate. She figured her little boy would love a Big Wheel, and she was right- he's just not ready for it yet. Her mom didn't need to make such a big deal out of it, he'll love that toy in a very short amount of time.

 

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Wow. This week's episode was crazy-making! Mostly Chelsea, so I'll start with her.

I have lost all respect for Chelsea. And her dad. I mean, seriously, I cannot believe she chose Adam over her best friend. Well, I can believe it, but it was crappy of her to do. Her whole "I don't want to get involved" stance made me want to jump through the tv and shake some sense into her. Megan has been there for her and Aubree and Adam is just a UAV who, as far as I can tell, is using and abusing her.

On to Chelsea's dad....he needs to pull the plug on that whole living situation immidiately. Actually, he should have grabbed Adam and literally thrown him out of that house himself.

 

post #54 of 134

I don't know why Jenelle's mom just didn't get Jace a cup, if she thought it was so cool.  Jenelle wanted to get him a cool toy, not a cup with his name on it.  Poor Jenelle is damned if she does, damned if she doesn't.

 

I am glad that Kailyn finally stood up for herself to Jo and his parents.  I don't get it either, why do they keep pushing the relationship.  I know it is their son, but can't they see that he is pretty mean?  If I were them, I would support Kailyn and the baby.  He can go get his own place if he wants.  She needs to continue with work and school and needs support.

 

Chelsea, what can I say?  The whole thing is sad, but sadly repeated all around the world by many women.  Choosing the boyfriend because he is controlling, I mean.

post #55 of 134

The toy that Jenelle got Jace wasn't really too far out of his age range.  I'm fairly certain the age range for that thing starts at 18 months.  I don't understand why her mom was so bent on her buying him a silver cup.  Personally, I hate that sort of stuff.  You don't end up using it.  It just sits around in a box.  The toy was a much better gift.

 

I wish I could say that I'm surprised that Chelsea chose Adam over her best friend, but I'm not.  That's what always happens.  When Adam ditches her again, Chelsea won't have Megan to help pick up the pieces either.  How sad.

 

The whole Kailynn thing is started to grate my nerves.  If you don't want to be with Jo, fine, but you're going to have to find a place to live.  I don't think it's fair to expect Jo's family to put her up.  Hopefully she will use her TM2 earnings to get a place of her own.  Their whole living together dynamic is just not healthy for anyone.

 

My heart breaks for Leah.  Next week is going to be a real tear-jerker. 

post #56 of 134

See, I don't see the problem with Jo's parents letting Kailyn and the baby live there, even if she is not dating their son.  Its their grandson's mom!  My XMIL would let me live with her if I really needed to, just for my DD's sake.

post #57 of 134
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Yep, agreed. I have lived with XMIL, in fact.

 

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See, I don't see the problem with Jo's parents letting Kailyn and the baby live there, even if she is not dating their son.  Its their grandson's mom!  My XMIL would let me live with her if I really needed to, just for my DD's sake.

post #58 of 134

This episode had me in tears.  I felt terrible for Megan who it seems has been such a good friend to Chelsea, and practically an Aunt to Aubree.  Chelsea's father didn't seem to know what to do, Chelsea wanted him to tell her that it wasn't her fault, but also that it wasn't Adam's fault either.  Already we see Adam reverting back to type - he seems to want everyone out of Chelsea's life except him so that no one will tell her how unreasonable he's being.  That poor girl.

 

Leah crying on the phone at the preview for next week made me cry.  I hope they find out what's wrong with the baby soon and can work something out, she seems like such a calm, caring mother, I really feel for her and Corey.

 

This show is really good.

post #59 of 134

I found it interesting that Jenelle's mom actually caught herself when she was discussing the birthday gift with Jenelle. She started out with her usual controlling "you didn't do it my way so it's not good enough" rant but then her face changed and I think she realized that she should be glad Jenelle got him a gift and she dropped it.

 

I think Kailyn lacks manners also but I think she gets that from her mom. My guess is that she is grateful but does not know how to express it and it was not something that was modeled for her when she was young.  I watch the show online the next day and wanted to point out that there was a bonus scene where Jo's mom took her for a walk and told her that no matter what she decides to do about her relationship with Jo that she will still be there for Kailyn and Issac.

 

I am not surprised by Chelsea's choice but that didn't stop me from wanting to jump through the TV and shake her. But of course I have the wisdom of experience and that is what she is just now learning...and she will learn the hard way.

 

Leah and Corey seem to be doing well and it seems Leah really did learn from her mistake. Hopefully it's not just the 'honeymoon period" BTDT! I hope their relationship can stay strong as they face what is to come with Ali.

post #60 of 134

Oh Chelsea, what are we going to do with you? Sigh. It's such a sad situation, when her friend was so there for her as a new mom. But really, you can see where it comes from. Chelsea's dad is a big softie and so is Chelsea. Only she's sadly directing her loving personality towards that massive UAV Adam, who is by far, the UAV daddy I have seen in either season. 

 

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