Originally Posted by sosurreal09
Our pedi said to keep DD rear facing as long as possible. She's 15 m/o and is still RF.
My BFF said her pedi and the hospital said it is too dangerous to keep a baby RF past 12 m/o b/c their legs will break. - Not true. Why at 12months would their legs magically break vs at 11months old? There are NO documented cases of broken legs because of extended rearfacing. Legs are far more likely to break forward facing, because in a crash the child moves forwards and hits their legs on the seat in front. Rearfacing, their legs fly up in the air, they dont hit anything. You can see this in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKIeExpDLDA
The forward facing child their legs hit the seat in front, the rearfacing child's legs hardly move.
She also claims it does nothing b/c if YOU hit someone/something the baby who is rear facing will fly forward (towards the back of car) just like if someone hit you and the baby was FF they would fly forward.
I thought pretty much no matter where you got hit/you hit someone being FF you would lunge forward.
I was also under the impression being rear facing no matter how you are hit you wouldn't lunge forward.
Am I wrong?
In a crash, you/baby moves twards the point of impact. So if you hit/got hit in the rear, you move twards the rear, if you hit/get hit in the front, you move twards the front, etc. Doesnt matter who hits who. MOST fatal car crashes are from the front (head on) or side. When you are hit from the rear, those crashes are rarely the 'bad' ones (think someone hitting you at a stoplight or in traffic when they looked down at their phone or something, or bumps in the parking lot...)
Also I told her I think you have to make sure the feet don't touch the back of the seat (in front of the baby)
Is this true?
Nope. Kids dont care if their feet touch. Most hang their legs over the side, cross them, put them up on the seat back etc. Think about how kids sit in a chair or on the floor, they rarely sit with their legs right out in front. Many kids that turn forward facing complain that their legs hurt because they fall asleep! Rearfacing they have support. Some convertable carseats have more leg room than others, but most kids dont seem to care either way.
Basically I need some hard facts b/c she keeps bringing it up and thinks I am putting my DD in danger and she is doing what is best.
Has she seen this video? Pay attention to the crash test bits, thats what convinced me to keep ds rearfacing (he is 3.5 and very comfortable rearfacing, he loves his carseat!)
I haven't looked into it much, I just heard it was better so I am just keeping her that way.
Good for you! She is 500% safer rearfacing.
Also wondering at what age, or height, or weight do you FF?
Bones in the neck/spine arent fully developed until I think age 6 or so (?), plus toddlers have a huge head in proprtion to the rest of their body compared to older kids, which is why its so important to protect their neck/spine. A bare minimum of 2yrs old and 30lbs, BUT the longer the better. She can ride rearfacing until she either A. reaches the rearfacing weight limit on her seat. Or B. has less than 1" of plastic shell above her head (in many seats kids outgrow them in height before weight). Her shoulder straps should be at or below her shoulders for rearfacing (at or above for forward facing). And feet touching is NOT at all a safety concern!
Is it just when they get too cramped and the feet are touching the back of the car's seat?
Some seats will last kids until they are 5-6yrs old rearfacing, Here are pics of older kids rearfacing: http://www.cpsafety.com/articles/RFAlbum.aspx
Remember kids dont get 'cramped' as much as you'd think (my son is always hiding in carboard boxes, cupboards, even a drawer once! Kids dont mind, honest!). Convertable carseats have plenty of room for bigger kids! As long as she hasnt reached the weight limit or isnt too tall (the 1" above the head thing) then she is fine rearfacing. And again, dont worry about her feet!!!
Lots of links here for more info as well:
Hope that helps!!!