UPDATE on PAGE 5 - Feel like crying... doc wants me to schedule c/s next week! - Page 3

[lyterae]

Oh my goodness - I think it's time to turn the phone off! I'm sorry that this has become so stressful. I also think it's completely unfair that the other midwives won't take you :(

[lil_stinkyfeet]

I sympathize with you, all the hospitals in my area have a VBAC ban so if I wanted to use a hospital I would have to go in delivering more or less. In your situation I think I would choose to wait until labor and walk into the hospital, it sounds like that is your best bet for getting your VBAC.

Sorry your having to deal with this!

[jenniro]

I am so sorry.  That really sucks.  Would you feel better if you answered the phone and told the OB office that you will not come in for a section but you will come in for stress test?  That gives you the weekend to relax and come up with a plan. 

[Tumble Bumbles]

Take a deep breath. This baby is unlikely to come as stressed as you are -- it's a protective mechanism to keep you safe in case you were being attacked by bears (which, judging by the three calls the OB made, seems the case lol). I know it's not easy, you've got a lot on your plate, but whatever you can do to relax right now would be so beneficial -- this sounds um...whatever...but have you tried a good 'ol fashioned orgasm to help labor start?

As far as the OB: You can answer the phone, or you don't have to. The choice is yours. However, answering would prevent them from calling again -- if them calling is stressing you out. OR a better option would be to call when they close, after business hours and leave a message. Say this:

"Hi this is Ima Vbacin, I received your messages but I will be unable to make the surgery scheduled Monday. Thank you. :) "

You don't have to apologize, give excuses, anything. Remember, they are being employed by you to perform a service. You've got to get in that mindset. Would you let your plumber tear up your entire bathroom without permission because you were afraid to say anything? I know you said they are lovely for well-woman care but to schedule a c-section without your permission or knowledge is really rage-inducing.

If baby is doing well, be patient mama. Your body can do this, and if a c-section is the ultimate outcome you'll know it was actually necessary and will have no regrets. It's still early. My babe took her sweet time coming at 42w 5 days and was perfectly fine :)

[JFTB1177]

Originally Posted by Tumble Bumbles 

If baby is doing well, be patient mama. Your body can do this, and if a c-section is the ultimate outcome you'll know it was actually necessary and will have no regrets. It's still early. My babe took her sweet time coming at 42w 5 days and was perfectly fine :)

Thank you ladies, and thank you so much, Tumble Bumbles! You won't believe this but they just called a 4th time! I finally listened to the messages and one was from someone at the hospital in L&D, giving me info on the section, how they want me to come in Sunday night. Maybe I should have my DH call them tomorrow (he is working until late) and let them know I'm not coming in? You're right... these calls make me want to cry!! I feel like they are breaking me down, but I will NOT go in on Sunday or Monday unless I am in active labor!!! I feel so upset and angry right now.

Thank you so much for the above! It really helps to hear someone else has had a baby so "late" with a good outcome (my hbac baby also came at 42+5). You know how it is, scary things start to pop in your head! :(

 

[tonttu]

RELAX , you have a plan !

Wait until you go into labor and then march into the other hospital !!!

And tell your doctor´s office , that they can schedule all the c/s appointments , they want , because you will not show up . Period !

YOU CAN DO IT !

[JudiAU]

Not part of this group but saw the posting on the front page.

Acupunture did help me go into labor and give me a much faster labor then with my first. I also a chiro...

[lil_stinkyfeet]

I say if it makes you feel better then have your husband call them and tell them that you will not be coming in for the C/S.

Funny when you want to get ahold of the clinic/hospital no one can be found but when you want to be left alone they are more then happy to help! lol

I also agree try to relax!! They cannot make you have a C/S if your dh calls them and they try to bully him just ask him to not tell you what they said to him in order

to not stress you out.  HUGS

[c'est moi]

my OB was just telling me that there was a woman who birthed vaginally at 43w6d at the hospital! now i don't say that to make you think you'll be pregnant forever, but just to say it's not wrong to still want to birth vaginally if you cook long.

[birthuwant]

Hope you came up with an alternative plan with your OB. I am a L and D nurse and am considering a change in my nursing career because of many of the reasons listed above. The state of birthing in our country is very frustrating. Women definitely need to educate themselves so they can have more of a say in their birthing options. As a side note I had a successful VBAC using HypnoBirthing in April and I think if you place trust in your body you can have the birth you want!

[jljeppson]

Noticed someone ask about castor oil and fetal/infant mortality.  A study came out not too long ago which found that every infant in the case study that was diagnosed with meconium aspiration as the cause of death had an infection.  Far as they can tell, the infection affects the uterus around 6mths gestation and there is currently nothing that we have to diagnose it.  This particular study concluded that the meconium aspiration was a symptom of the real problem, not the actual cause of death.  Further studies are needed, but it does seem to exonerate those women who have been told over the years that they killed their babies by taking castor oil (including my own aunt).  I'll see if I can find the link for it.

[zensven42]

It's actually quite normal for pregnancies to last 37 weeks, 40 weeks, 43 weeks. Everyone is different. All my children have taken their time to be born, my last one at 43w4d. I as well had to just stop answering my phone, as my provider was pressuring me to schedule a CS. I told them I thought that rude, especially since I had already told them in the past that I would let the babe be born on their own time. Don't let yourself be bullied

[JFTB1177]

Originally Posted by zensven42 

It's actually quite normal for pregnancies to last 37 weeks, 40 weeks, 43 weeks. Everyone is different. All my children have taken their time to be born, my last one at 43w4d. I as well had to just stop answering my phone, as my provider was pressuring me to schedule a CS. I told them I thought that rude, especially since I had already told them in the past that I would let the babe be born on their own time. Don't let yourself be bullied

Thanks so much for this, this is so reassuring!! :) Were you getting NST's and BPP's?

Thank you so much ladies for all of your support, it really helps! I keep re-reading your posts when I start feeling down/nervous! :)

Wow, interesting about the castor oil article!! I would really love to read it if you can find it!

Does anyone know anything about "murky" water on an u/s? At my most recent u/s the tech said I had "murky" water, because parts were showing up as gray instead of pitch black. She said it's because the baby is overdue and his/her proteins are in the water. I asked her if that is worriesome or dangerous and she said no. Just wanted to see if any of you have heard of this??
 

[jljeppson]

Murky waters, in this instance, most likely just means that your baby had mec in the water due to a mature gut.  Just a sign of a postdates baby, is all.

[JFTB1177]

Originally Posted by jljeppson 

Murky waters, in this instance, most likely just means that your baby had mec in the water due to a mature gut.  Just a sign of a postdates baby, is all.

Isn't that dangerous?? :( Should I be worried? I feel like I'm starting to get extremely nervous, fetal movements have been decreasing (although they are still there). I check the hr with my doppler- sometimes it's around 117-120, sometimes in the 130's. I'll be flat out honest... I'm getting scared. Help?
 

[KempsMama]

Fetal movement and heart rate can decrease as labor gets near. 

[lil_stinkyfeet]

You could go in for a NST if it would make you feel better. HUGS I know it's hard but you need to try to relax, take a bath, meditate something to relax yourself.

Originally Posted by JFTB1177 

Originally Posted by jljeppson 

Murky waters, in this instance, most likely just means that your baby had mec in the water due to a mature gut.  Just a sign of a postdates baby, is all.

Isn't that dangerous?? :( Should I be worried? I feel like I'm starting to get extremely nervous, fetal movements have been decreasing (although they are still there). I check the hr with my doppler- sometimes it's around 117-120, sometimes in the 130's. I'll be flat out honest... I'm getting scared. Help?
 

[CookAMH]

I would absolutely walk into the other hospital in labor vs continuing to deal with your OB. Especially since you have a doula who can be with you at home to labor long enough and progress long enough and then go with you to the hospital. I can understand how crushed you were when you found out they wouldn't take you after all (in advance).

Did you leave a message this weekend with the OB?  Good idea to avoid getting anyone on the phone.  Guilt must NOT allow/cause you to walk into that hospital for a rcs. You will regret it forever because you'd be doing it out of fear and intimidation and not out of concern for your baby's life (at least as far as I can understand your feelings and status of the baby!).

I would not be concerned about "murky" waters. With post dates, light meconium is NOT worrisome, it's quite normal. Thick meconium would be worrisome.

It's wonderful your OB was instrumental in your previous health issues. This birth is a different scenario though and you owe him nothing. This birth is about what is best your baby and you. At this point, it doesn't sound like you have any compelling reason to consent to a rcs.

[BabyBearsMummy]

Originally Posted by JFTB1177 

 I had severe cervical dysplasia 10 years ago (I've been with them since I was 17, I'm 33 now) and had to have a cone biopsy.   

Cervical Scar Tissue resulting from your cone biopsy could very well be the reason your cervix has been unable to dilate on its own.

If your OB is already are doing vaginal dilatation checks and they are skilled at "rimming" a cervix (Meaning they VERY rarely rupture the anionic sac) there should be no greater risk simply because you are GBS+.

To me it sounds like you are the victim of bait and switch. Your OB claims to be VBAC supportive but their practices are not.

Edited to add a few more resources for you. ICAN/VBAC/Cesarean and Stalled or Dysfunctional Labor

[jljeppson]

Originally Posted by CookAMH 
I would not be concerned about "murky" waters. With post dates, light meconium is NOT worrisome, it's quite normal. Thick meconium would be worrisome. Yes, this.  Meconium in the waters isn't unusual at all and since the fluid gets replaced every few hours, if you went in right now you'd be just as likely to have clear fluid as murky.