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I don't consider myself thin, I consider myself lean. I used to be obese. Now my body fat is 18%. I've read a lot about body fat's role in disease, and now it's really important for me to keep mine low. My weight isn't low, I'm actually up near the top of my healthy weight range for my height.

 

So, all that said. I keep track of how many calories I consume and burn. I eat healthy foods, but they don't keep me lean. Balancing my energy in and energy out is what keeps me lean. I stay active, so I burn a lot, which means I eat a lot. I'm not starving myself here, I eat 3000+ calories a day. I just make sure not to get out of balance. It takes me about 15 minutes a day to journal my food and activity. It doesn't control my life. It's given me control over my health.

 

ETA: like a pp, I also exercise 6-7 days a week for 60+ minutes. More than half of those minutes are spent in the weight room. And I enjoy every minute of it.


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post #82 of 117
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I think people who are "naturally" thin use food the way it was intended ~ to provide energy.  Not to drown sadness, not to celebrate, not to fill bored spaces in life or for any other reason other than to nourish the body.  I tend to use food for other reasons, but there have been times in my life when I have concentrated on eating ONLY when I'm hungry and stopping, even mid plate, when I'm satisfied.  When I do this, I get normal-thin.  Not skinny.  I'm not dieting during these times, nor am I bingeing or purging or exercising 3 hours a day.  Just listening to my body's energy needs and feeding myself appropriately.


This is how I've always ate, and I'm thin. Heavier than high school but still thin. I've always thought about making sure I have a balanced meal, eating incredibly slow, and rarely clean my plate (not on purpose, just my normal). I do have high metabolism, but I think 6 small meals a day keeps it fast. However I'm out of shape, not very much muscle tone and endurance. I need to work out now (26 years old) to stay thin for the rest of my life.

 

Also, I live in an area where organic and healthy food choices are in abundance and mainstream (Seattle area). I grew up with parents who care about the nutritional value of the food they eat and exercise. I think that's huge, growing up eating healthy makes it so I prefer brown rice and salmon. :)

 

post #83 of 117
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I don't consider myself thin, I consider myself lean. I used to be obese. Now my body fat is 18%. I've read a lot about body fat's role in disease, and now it's really important for me to keep mine low. My weight isn't low, I'm actually up near the top of my healthy weight range for my height.

 

So, all that said. I keep track of how many calories I consume and burn. I eat healthy foods, but they don't keep me lean. Balancing my energy in and energy out is what keeps me lean. I stay active, so I burn a lot, which means I eat a lot. I'm not starving myself here, I eat 3000+ calories a day. I just make sure not to get out of balance. It takes me about 15 minutes a day to journal my food and activity. It doesn't control my life. It's given me control over my health.

 

ETA: like a pp, I also exercise 6-7 days a week for 60+ minutes. More than half of those minutes are spent in the weight room. And I enjoy every minute of it.



I love this post!!   

 

Like you, I love lifting weights and looking strong!  My appearance matches me on the inside.....Your arms look fantastic in this picture. 

Don't you love the definition and lines in your arms! 

 

post #84 of 117
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I love this post!!   

 

Like you, I love lifting weights and looking strong!  My appearance matches me on the inside.....Your arms look fantastic in this picture. 

Don't you love the definition and lines in your arms! 

 


Thanks! That pic is a year old, and I've converted about 6 pounds of my body mass from fat to lean since then, without losing a pound. Looking strong is awesome, and BEING strong is even better! You look amazing yourself!

 

One thing I hear a LOT is people saying 'oh, I could never exercise an hour every day, it would take over my life!' or something along those lines. I think what people don't understand until they experience it is that when your body is healthy and fit, moving is a JOY. A primal, compelling JOY. Yes, when I started exercising it was difficult and often unpleasant, but as my body became stronger it became more pleasant until one day I realized that THIS is what my body is built to do, move! Move a lot! Lift and climb and jump and run! It feels so good, and when I don't do it my body begins to ache and slow down. The time I used to spend sitting with my kids I now spend moving with my kids. Staying fit and healthy hasn't taken over my life, it's made it better, in every way.

 

post #85 of 117
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One thing I hear a LOT is people saying 'oh, I could never exercise an hour every day, it would take over my life!' or something along those lines. I think what people don't understand until they experience it is that when your body is healthy and fit, moving is a JOY. A primal, compelling JOY. Yes, when I started exercising it was difficult and often unpleasant, but as my body became stronger it became more pleasant until one day I realized that THIS is what my body is built to do, move! Move a lot! Lift and climb and jump and run! It feels so good, and when I don't do it my body begins to ache and slow down. The time I used to spend sitting with my kids I now spend moving with my kids. Staying fit and healthy hasn't taken over my life, it's made it better, in every way.

 



I so totally agree with you about moving being a true joy!  I also exercise at least an hour a day 5+ days a week.  If I end up missing a day or two, I start to crave a run.  Pure joy once I'm out there on the road again.  And on that note, I'm heading to the basement to ride my bike on the trainer for an hour!!!  Not to "be skinny" but to be happy.

 

post #86 of 117
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I think that's huge, growing up eating healthy makes it so I prefer brown rice and salmon. :)

 



If I could afford it, I'd eat salmon at almost every meal. (Mind you, I'd probably eat too much of it, because it's soooooo yummy, so I'd probably still be fat.)

post #87 of 117
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One thing I hear a LOT is people saying 'oh, I could never exercise an hour every day, it would take over my life!' or something along those lines. I think what people don't understand until they experience it is that when your body is healthy and fit, moving is a JOY. A primal, compelling JOY. Yes, when I started exercising it was difficult and often unpleasant, but as my body became stronger it became more pleasant until one day I realized that THIS is what my body is built to do, move! Move a lot! Lift and climb and jump and run! It feels so good, and when I don't do it my body begins to ache and slow down. The time I used to spend sitting with my kids I now spend moving with my kids. Staying fit and healthy hasn't taken over my life, it's made it better, in every way.

 


That's what I've done a few times in my life. It's not working this time. The more I exercise, the more everything aches (and it's not from overdoing, either - I've been trying to ease back in gently). Exercise used to be a joy. It's not, anymore. It just sucks. After a few weeks, I get discouraged, and stop...and then the aches get a bit better. *sigh*

 

post #88 of 117
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That's what I've done a few times in my life. It's not working this time. The more I exercise, the more everything aches (and it's not from overdoing, either - I've been trying to ease back in gently). Exercise used to be a joy. It's not, anymore. It just sucks. After a few weeks, I get discouraged, and stop...and then the aches get a bit better. *sigh*

 


I wonder if it doesn't get harder as you get older. I was 35 when I started exercising and it took at least 6 months for it to start feeling good. I sometimes look back in awe that I kept at it in spite of the slow-as-molasses results and sheer misery of dragging my slow, fat ass to the gym day after day. lol.gif

 

post #89 of 117
I've been heavy and thin for long periods of time. My genetics are a mix of thin a not obese but heavy.
When I was heavier, now I'm pregnant so I'm not counting now ( trying not to,) I over excersise, under eat and eat food I'm barely sensity to or have real reactions to.
When I'm thin, I excersice intensely but smart. This mean know when my cortisol kicks in. There are ways of figuring this out. Not excersicing more then an hour, that only work for wt training for me. For cardio I find simply doing peak eight,( google: mercola peak 8,) makes this easy.
Foods I need to avoid to stay thin is a very long list, including, chicken, beans, nuts, coconut, avocado, dairy. I only know about these foods because I get into eating ruts where I eat the same thing for weeks. I need to eat a very high fat high protiens diet. And to top it all off only one big to normal sized meal a day and the rest of the day small amounts and lots of liquid.
I read a little food trick, every bite of food is 25 extra calories. Now I know this isn't really true, but it kept me from finishing my daughters food, or that bite while cooking. It kept me aware.
Thin or heavier in my case had nothing to do with happiness. Though I understand for others it is a big factor.
I also learned just because a food is a super food for a great many people doesn't mean it is
For me and vice versa.
And happy people, you never know what is going on behind closed doors. I work with many people who appear very happy to others but are miserable inside themselves or in their relationships.
post #90 of 117
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I wonder if it doesn't get harder as you get older. I was 35 when I started exercising and it took at least 6 months for it to start feeling good. I sometimes look back in awe that I kept at it in spite of the slow-as-molasses results and sheer misery of dragging my slow, fat ass to the gym day after day. lol.gif

 


Oh, age must have something to do with it.  I am 38 and in 'drag my fat ass to the gym mode".  It is hard!   But rewarding and it gets easier each time. And I love the relaxed and mellow feeling I have when I leave.  I could get seriously addicted to those endorphins.  

 

So, this thread has been a real turing point for me.  I started weight watchers, have been walking/running more and have an appointment for a training session at the gym.  I need some help putting together a weight training routine.  The exercise feels great, the diet feels manageable and I am all ready losing weight and feeling better.  But before any of that could happen, I needed to get my head for some big life changes.  Now just to keep the motivation and make it happen.  

post #91 of 117
I am considered thin by most people a 2/4. I have been thin most of my life, save for a few years on depo. Actually, I was too thin when younger but I think that was due to undiagnosed food issues(celiacs). I had to work to lose the weight from the depo - changed my food- worked out all the time and took a year to lose 30 lbs. I gained 55, 35 and 35 with each kid and the weight didn't fall off with any of them. I went back to working out as soon as possible. Watched what I ate etc and generally lost it by 4-6 months.

I have been an exercise fanatic off and on since losing that weight 10 yrs ago now, did p90x before my last baby, did CF this past summer and before but don't care to do that anymore. I am much more interested in doing family fitness activities. I used to love going to the gym but don't care to at all anymore, if I have time to myself, that is not what I want to do. We do hike together, 2 hrs is my min goal per wek but when the weather is decent we can easily do 10+ hrs a week, we like biking together as well, playing chase and frisbee - doing bodyweight exercises like sqats, pushups etc. I have slacked a bit this winter as well, weather has been nasty eating more sugar/carbs than is good for me but as the weather warms we are getting outside more and more and increasing our activity all around. My bf is around 22-23 right now, not super low, I would like to get back down to 20% but honestly don't want to be any lower than that.

I eat grain-gluten/dairy/soy free and try to avoid sugar unless honey and then try to keep that to a very minimal. HIgh fat, mod protein and low carb. I feel the best all around eating this way. I stop eating when I no longer feel hungry. I only drink water or occasionally herbal tea. I don't go hungry period, I eat pretty fair sized portions. Snacks are things like nuts, veggies and sometimes fruit- although I feel best on just berries. I am generally an active person though, although w/ everything that needs to be done it is hard not to be.
post #92 of 117
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That's what I've done a few times in my life. It's not working this time. The more I exercise, the more everything aches (and it's not from overdoing, either - I've been trying to ease back in gently). Exercise used to be a joy. It's not, anymore. It just sucks. After a few weeks, I get discouraged, and stop...and then the aches get a bit better. *sigh*


 

I'm curious what all is going on for you -- what sorts of exercising you are doing, if you are doing it correctly, and if you are stretching appropriately. I'm a yoga teacher and really not into other forms of exercise anymore (except for walking and hiking) but I know that if you do yoga poses incorrectly, you can hurt yourself. You can hurt your knees, your ankles, your back. Alignment is very important.

 

I think that this is true in all forms of exercise. If you bike a lot and your bike isn't adjusted right, you hurt yourself. If you run and your don't have great shoes and fit you well and have appropriate support, you hurt yourself.  I'm wondering if you took whatever it is that really apeals to you (weights or pilates or bike riding or whatever) and worked one on one with a really wonderful teacher/trainer, if you could learn something about your body/alignment/whatever that would be helpful.  Something must be off.

 

post #93 of 117

I have 3 children (ages 9,6,3) and have learned a lot about natural thin-ness from observing them.  My 9-yo is naturally heavy...has been since she was a baby.  Starting with breastfeeding, she was the baby who NEVER turned down an offer to nurse.  She always loved to nurse. and as she got older she never turned down food.  She was a very placid baby and is a very placid child.  She was happy as a baby to sit and watch the world go by.   As an older child, by herself she loves to read, draw and sometimes slowly scooter around outside.  She'll ride bikes or play sports with friends, but her general nature is to not hurry, to take things slowly.  She's happy to spend long periods of time sitting or lying down and reading or drawing or just playing.  As a 2-yo, she would happily sit on our laps for an entire 1 hour of Mass and then another hour of a bible/study afterwards.   And, she is (and was as a baby) on the heavier side.

 

My 6 yo and 3 yo are naturally thin.  And, I notice a HUGE difference in their temperments.  As babies, they were more active and crawled/walked/ just moved more.   The only wanted to nurse when they were hungry and refused if they weren't.  They are both fussy eaters...they aren't picky necessarily in that they eat a wide variety, but they are fussy.  They don't like to eat that much, tend to eat small amounts. I can tell, they don't like the feeling of being overly ful, so they stop eating before then. They have days where they seem to live on air and not much else.   And, they are more naturally active.  By themselves, on their own, they spend more time running/jumping/moving  They don't do well with sitting down for long periods of time and neither one of them could even really sit through 1-hour of Mass as a 2-yo.

 

Anyway, I guess what I have observed is that my thin children naturally are more active, they just naturally move more and they just seem to "like" eating less.  They like to eat when they are hungry, but they won't eat if they aren't hungry and they seem much more sensitive to feelings of fullness then my heavier child is.

 

 

I know they are just kids, but I definitely see a difference.  And, it seems to go along with what I have observed with adults.

 

I've found that naturally thin adults tend to just naturally eat less, they think about food less, they are more sensitive to feelings of fullness and they tend to naturally move more.   I don't mean they necessarily work-out more..just that they move more.  They spend more time standing up, they are more 'restless", they "fidget" more, they "pace" more, etc.

 

 

post #94 of 117

http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1914857,00.html

 

Thought this article was interesting, and relevant to the conversation.  I think weight is way more complicated than most people think.

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http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1914857,00.html

 

Thought this article was interesting, and relevant to the conversation.  I think weight is way more complicated than most people think.


Very timely.  This weekend I saw an aquaintance of mine.  She recently lost 60 pounds.  When I asked her how she lost the weight she said she joined a gym and exercised vigorously and regularly for 3 months and lost....4 pounds.  Then she read the above article.  She quit the gym, got a calorie counting app for her iphone and lost 60 pounds in under a year.  She said the main thing wasn't changing what she ate (she was already eating pretty healthy) but changing how much she ate.  Interesting.

post #96 of 117

Oh OP, please do not be so hard on yourself.  I know it is tough.  I do the same when I gain a few.  WHOA!  3 mile run!  You are my hero!  clap.gif

 

I think a ton of women just seriously do not eat, maybe drink their dinners, KWIM?  A little wine goes a long way in the "I am not hungry" category. 

 

How wonderful for you to be in Sweden!  I am Swed/Irish/Norwegian and know that we of that heritage are super sensitive.  Your diet sounds great though, good job. 

 

One thing that changed a ton for my eating habits was to fill up on greens before eating your meats, fish, etc.  That is why the portion sizes are so darn small.  We are to fill up before we eat our protein. 

 

I do not FB at all, never have.  I find it is really like reading a magazine with all these people doing this and that, wearing this and that.  I get in my head way too much in that way.  We do not watch TV for many reasons, but that is one for me.  I get SUPER depressed when watching TV or movies.  Most of those folks are not healthy, toxic.  At least you are eating correctly.  That is commendable. 

 

Good luck to you.  You are seriously on the right track. 

 

 

post #97 of 117
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Originally Posted by Breathless Wonder View Post

http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1914857,00.html

 

Thought this article was interesting, and relevant to the conversation.  I think weight is way more complicated than most people think.


That's interesting, but I would hazard a guess that there is a psychological impact from exercise, namely, "I just worked out for an hour so it's safe for me to have that XYZ piece of food."  Exercise may stimulate hunger but I have never noticed that, personally.  But I have found myself thinking.... "oh, it's ok for me to eat these cookies because I'm working out every day."

 

Ideally a person should remain active (not necessarily "exercising") -- which has health benefits in and of itself-- plus eating not too much.

 

Since my last post in this thread I have learned that my mum, who has been overweight/ obese all her adult life, has been diagnosed with breast cancer in her 60s.  She has estrogen fed tumors which are linked to obesity.  My dad, also overweight, is gradually losing his mobility, the more he gains, to various back and joint problems for which he'll need surgeries.  While I might have been laid back about weight before, I'm not anymore.  I've started exercising and am being as careful as I can about my food intake, even though for whatever reason, I have escaped my family's weight issues. 

 

post #98 of 117

I don't struggle too much with weight but I do have a tendency to eat certain foods compulsively.  "The End of Overeating" book, which outlines how the food industry is deliberately putting chemicals in food to mess with brain chemistry and our barometers of satiation, really struck a chord with me.  Last month I gave up sugar because I wasn't able to eat desserts and sweets moderately or responsibly.  When my DC was struggling some respiratory issues at the same time, we as a family gave up dairy as well (we still eat meat).  I have lost ten pounds since that time, with no dieting whatsoever.  I have replaced the fats in desserts and dairy with fats in nuts and avocados. I do not monitor my caloric intake at all, but I try to eat nutrient rich food.

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Since my last post in this thread I have learned that my mum, who has been overweight/ obese all her adult life, has been diagnosed with breast cancer in her 60s.  She has estrogen fed tumors which are linked to obesity.  My dad, also overweight, is gradually losing his mobility, the more he gains, to various back and joint problems for which he'll need surgeries.  While I might have been laid back about weight before, I'm not anymore.  I've started exercising and am being as careful as I can about my food intake, even though for whatever reason, I have escaped my family's weight issues. 

 

I am sorry to hear of your families health.  Good for you for breaking the cycle!  I am right there with you!
 

 

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I don't struggle too much with weight but I do have a tendency to eat certain foods compulsively.



Me too-- I have 2 or 3 food that I will eat compulsively so I can't even have them in the house.  So if everyone else feels about "most" food how I feel about those few foods, it is no wonder that people cannot control their weight.  I truly cannot control myself when those foods are around and will eat them until they are gone, even if it makes me feel terribly sick!  confused.gif 

 

Thanks Xantho, I am worried too about my sister who is overweight and a compulsive eater. 

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