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post #41 of 68

My son was vaxed untill his vaccine injury.  Normal little kid and then after a big round of vaxes he walked like he had a stroke, no more eye contact, complete loss of speech....etc.  My daughter is completely vax free.  I am constantly amazed by her health and vitality.  I am constantly telling our story and warning people.  I have complete confidence in our choice to not do any more vaxes for my son (who did recover after about 4 years) and to do none for my daughter.  Wish I had educated myself and declined all from the start.

post #42 of 68

DD is 3 and a month. She has never been vaxed. She has never been ill beyond a rare sinus cold and mild fever. I've gotten flac from all sides for my decision to put off (and then ultimately not get) all vaccinations. After much (and ongoing) research though, I'm secure in my choices.

post #43 of 68

Hi!

 

My third child is completely vax free due to concerns that the death of my second child was caused directly or indirectly by the vaccine he received 6 days prior.

My first DD was vacinated for the recommended shots but since her brother died has never received another shot, neither will my DH or I, this new baby or even our cats.

Of course I am concerned at times but my research indicates that most illnesses are not half as bad as they are made out to be (my kids both had the chicken pox last year and it was NO problem). We even traveled to Thailand after researching the odds of catching something there.

post #44 of 68
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Hi!

 

My third child is completely vax free due to concerns that the death of my second child was caused directly or indirectly by the vaccine he received 6 days prior.

My first DD was vacinated for the recommended shots but since her brother died has never received another shot, neither will my DH or I, this new baby or even our cats.

Of course I am concerned at times but my research indicates that most illnesses are not half as bad as they are made out to be (my kids both had the chicken pox last year and it was NO problem). We even traveled to Thailand after researching the odds of catching something there.

I recently spent a year in Thailand and watched my companions take malaria pills EVERY day for a year!!!  I was the only person who didn't do this, or a Typhoid vaccine, and I was the ONLY person who didn't get violently ill, not even once.  Everyone else was ill at least once a month!  Of course this might be due in part to the fact that I avoided street food and I am a vegetarian...
 

post #45 of 68

No vaxes here!  But, I'm always in the camp that for now we're delaying.  If I come across ANY compelling evidence to get a vaccine for my kids I will immediately do so.  (i.e. a polio outbreak in Chicago)  But, since it looks like most "VPDs" are extremely rare and most are no big deal if they were caught, we'll probably be delaying forever. 

post #46 of 68

Vaccinations are drugs that can have negative, even deadly consequences.

Vaccination does not equal immunity.

Vaccinated persons can be carriers.

Non-vaccination does not equal illness.

Illness does not equal injury or death.

Carrying the polio virus does not equal paralytic polio.

 

Vaccination and non-vaccination each carry a risk.

 

My pediatrician is 100% on board with our decision--though if she were not, it is not her decision to make as she does not have to live with the consequences.

 

 

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http://insidevaccines.com/wordpress/?page_id=26
Poliomyelitis, often called polio or infantile paralysis, is an acute viral infectious disease spread from person to person, primarily via the fecal-oral route. Although around 90% of polio infections have no symptoms at all, affected individuals can exhibit a range of symptoms if the virus enters the blood stream. In fewer than 1% of cases the virus enters the central nervous system preferentially infecting and destroying motor neurons leading to muscle weakness and acute flaccid paralysis.


 

 


Edited by Emmeline II - 3/10/11 at 7:02pm
post #47 of 68

I used to vaccinate my kids, and none had a bad reaction to a vaccine, so I saw no reason to stop. But last winter's H1N1 flu hysteria pushed me harder to do more research, and I concluded that I will do no more vaxes for my kids. Polio has been eliminated from the Western Hemisphere. Not a single case of wild polio has occurred in the USofA since 1978. When we travel to countries that still have wild polio, I will think about the polio vaccine. HepB is transferred sexually and by IV drug use -- not a chance of my kids getting it. Of course, if my child goes into the medical profession, I'd think it wise to get HepB, as an adult. Guardasil -- well, don't get me started. Just see the New York Times article

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/20/health/policy/20vaccine.html

 

on the marketing of this vaccine, and you will see what I mean.

 

I did think hard about pertussis. My youngest didn't get it, but wasn't in daycare and I was hyper-careful about keeping DD away from public places and anyone sick until she was at least 2. Pertussis can be fatal to very young infants, so it is a concern. The vaccine isn't perfect, but it may be protective, and if my child were in daycare, I'd probably get it.

 

Flu - again, don't get me started. See the article in the Atlantic

 

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2009/11/does-the-vaccine-matter/7723/

 

which says basically that flu vaccines don't work.

 

Measles is kind of nasty, so I'd give that vaccine if it were available as a separate vaccine, but it's not, so NO to MMR. (BTW, I'd never heard of Dr. Wakefield before the most recent spate of articles vilifying him, and when I did research into MMR on my own, I concluded that it's not a safe vaccine. I then read Dr. Wakefield's research, and found he recommended single vaccines too. Geeze, the man seems reasonable to me, not a fraud or anything evil. I'm sure the pharmaceutical industry is behind the attacks on him.)

 

If I had it to do all over again, I would NOT vaccinate my children at all, but I would reserve the right to vaccinate them for certain diseases if after careful research I thought that the threat of the disease was greater than the risks from the vaccine.

post #48 of 68

I used to vaccinate my kids, and none had a bad reaction to a vaccine, so I saw no reason to stop. But last winter's H1N1 flu hysteria pushed me harder to do more research, and I concluded that I will do no more vaxes for my kids. Polio has been eliminated from the Western Hemisphere. Not a single case of wild polio has occurred in the USofA since 1978. When we travel to countries that still have wild polio, I will think about the polio vaccine. HepB is transferred sexually and by IV drug use -- not a chance of my kids getting it. Of course, if my child goes into the medical profession, I'd think it wise to get HepB, as an adult. Guardasil -- well, don't get me started. Just see the New York Times article

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/20/health/policy/20vaccine.html

 

on the marketing of this vaccine, and you will see what I mean.

 

I did think hard about pertussis. My youngest didn't get it, but wasn't in daycare and I was hyper-careful about keeping DD away from public places and anyone sick until she was at least 2. Pertussis can be fatal to very young infants, so it is a concern. The vaccine isn't perfect, but it may be protective, and if my child were in daycare, I'd probably get it.

 

Flu - again, don't get me started. See the article in the Atlantic

 

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2009/11/does-the-vaccine-matter/7723/

 

which says basically that flu vaccines don't work.

 

Measles is kind of nasty, so I'd give that vaccine if it were available as a separate vaccine, but it's not, so NO to MMR. (BTW, I'd never heard of Dr. Wakefield before the most recent spate of articles vilifying him, and when I did research into MMR on my own, I concluded that it's not a safe vaccine. I then read Dr. Wakefield's research, and found he recommended single vaccines too. Geeze, the man seems reasonable to me, not a fraud or anything evil. I'm sure the pharmaceutical industry is behind the attacks on him.)

 

If I had it to do all over again, I would NOT vaccinate my children at all, but I would reserve the right to vaccinate them for certain diseases if after careful research I thought that the threat of the disease was greater than the risks from the vaccine.

post #49 of 68
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Originally Posted by sleeveless View Post

I used to vaccinate my kids, and none had a bad reaction to a vaccine, so I saw no reason to stop. But last winter's H1N1 flu hysteria pushed me harder to do more research, and I concluded that I will do no more vaxes for my kids. Polio has been eliminated from the Western Hemisphere. Not a single case of wild polio has occurred in the USofA since 1978. When we travel to countries that still have wild polio, I will think about the polio vaccine. HepB is transferred sexually and by IV drug use -- not a chance of my kids getting it. Of course, if my child goes into the medical profession, I'd think it wise to get HepB, as an adult. Guardasil -- well, don't get me started. Just see the New York Times article

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/20/health/policy/20vaccine.html

 

on the marketing of this vaccine, and you will see what I mean.

 

I did think hard about pertussis. My youngest didn't get it, but wasn't in daycare and I was hyper-careful about keeping DD away from public places and anyone sick until she was at least 2. Pertussis can be fatal to very young infants, so it is a concern. The vaccine isn't perfect, but it may be protective, and if my child were in daycare, I'd probably get it.

 

Flu - again, don't get me started. See the article in the Atlantic

 

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2009/11/does-the-vaccine-matter/7723/

 

which says basically that flu vaccines don't work.

 

Measles is kind of nasty, so I'd give that vaccine if it were available as a separate vaccine, but it's not, so NO to MMR. (BTW, I'd never heard of Dr. Wakefield before the most recent spate of articles vilifying him, and when I did research into MMR on my own, I concluded that it's not a safe vaccine. I then read Dr. Wakefield's research, and found he recommended single vaccines too. Geeze, the man seems reasonable to me, not a fraud or anything evil. I'm sure the pharmaceutical industry is behind the attacks on him.)

 

If I had it to do all over again, I would NOT vaccinate my children at all, but I would reserve the right to vaccinate them for certain diseases if after careful research I thought that the threat of the disease was greater than the risks from the vaccine.


Thanks for the links, and my thoughts exactly!
 

 

post #50 of 68

Just to comment on Sleeveless and the single Measles vaccine issue. I am wondering if anyone knows or has theories as to why MMR was available for a few years as separate vaccines and is not any longer? I am still not vaccinating. Took my son to his 16 mo check up and the doc asked if I had put further thought into it and I said I have and am more sure of my decision. Building an  immune system is our goal right now. VIT D, good nutrition, probiotics, and laughter!

 

post #51 of 68

I didn't know the MMR was not able to be separated anymore either. When did that happen?  We don't vaccinate either so it doesn't affect me, but I'm just really curious because I remember reading about the option of it being separated upon request about 2 years ago.  (I do remember saying the separated vaccine was harder to obtain and not all doctors' offices supplied that).  I'm too wondering when and why it's no longer separated.

post #52 of 68
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I didn't know the MMR was not able to be separated anymore either. When did that happen?  We don't vaccinate either so it doesn't affect me, but I'm just really curious because I remember reading about the option of it being separated upon request about 2 years ago.  (I do remember saying the separated vaccine was harder to obtain and not all doctors' offices supplied that).  I'm too wondering when and why it's no longer separated.


Merck decided to stop making it in 2008.  I don't have any facts on why, but the conspiracy theorist in me thinks they may have been pushed that way by the US government.

 

post #53 of 68

Been reading "Raising a Vaccine Free Child" by Wendy Lydall

So far I highly recommend it..

post #54 of 68

Yup! That sounds about right to me, too!

post #55 of 68



I completely agree.

 

 

 

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Merck decided to stop making it in 2008.  I don't have any facts on why, but the conspiracy theorist in me thinks they may have been pushed that way by the US government.

 

post #56 of 68
My first was given all the tens of vaccines according to the official schedule. His infant immune system was hit with all of it because I trusted these doctors and the media. He has autism. He was often very sick with respiratory ailments and ear infections his whole babyhood too.

So with my second I refused to give him any vaccinations before 2 years of age, so that his immune system could mature a bit, then he got all of the vaccines required until age 5.

But my third got no vaccines at all, and he is Thr healthiest one of all. This baby I am expecting will also not be getting any vaccines either.

For sure, sticking all of this junk into newborns is Insane and will one day be publicly understood as such.
post #57 of 68

My fist son was Vaxed until he was 12 months old. I didnt have a choice in the matter, I was his foster mom at the time and the state made the rules for him, not me. He STAYED sick. He cried ALL of the times, to the point that other foster parents and my mother would come and keep him for me so I could actually get sleep/ laundry done. I knew something was wrong and the more I researched vaccines, the more I knew it wasnt going to happen once I had a say. 3 months after his last vaccine.. he was a new kid. Happy, vibrant and NOT screaming my ears out. He has only been what I would call more than an allergy sick MAYBE twice since then. He is 5.5 now. On the other hand. We are seeing signs that he is bordering the line between gifted and autistic. He is highly intellegent in areas of mechanics.. but not anti social. One of his Pedis reccomended we no longer vax him.. well I dont anyway LOL. She suggests that the MMR may have triggered something in his brain to have him act this way.... OR It could just simply be a gift. Either way.. we are lucky and I wouldnt want to find out if it was the MMR OR what continued Vaxing would do to him.

 

I also have 13 month old twin boys.. neither have ever recieved a vax but did get Vita K.. only because we do have a history of bleeding in our family. They werent Circed so I just did oral and not injectable.

 

I am currently Pregnant and this baby will not recieve any vaccines either.

post #58 of 68

My oldest had 12 months worth of the typical vaccines. (He's 4) I stopped vaccinating after that. I don't think he ever got the MMR though because they were out of it at the 12 month appt. and said I had to come back for it when he was 15 months - which I never did.

 

My second was supposed to be completely vaccine free but the hospital in Romania ignored the fact I didn't sign the form to allow for vaccines in the hospital. And I had specifically told the doctor I didn't want my son to have any but they just ignored me. That sucked. So, he's got 2 vaccines. I think the Hep B and some other one that they don't normally give in the US, so can't remember what it's called. But, that is it.

 

Baby on the way is hopefully to be born at home, so I won't have to worry about her getting any vaccines at least as long as the government doesn't start forcing it on everyone...

 

I honestly wonder sometimes if my oldest has some vaccine damage as he is quite delayed with speaking and things. - Maybe like a year behind. He is still progressing and I think he'll end up catching up just fine but still. He's also extra sensitive and more aggressive and defiant. These may just be personality traits but yeah. I wish I never gave him any vaccines but oh well, what's done is done.

post #59 of 68


 

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I honestly wonder sometimes if my oldest has some vaccine damage as he is quite delayed with speaking and things. - Maybe like a year behind. He is still progressing and I think he'll end up catching up just fine but still. He's also extra sensitive and more aggressive and defiant. These may just be personality traits but yeah. I wish I never gave him any vaccines but oh well, what's done is done.


I wonder about that too, though ds isn't delayed he has other issues (like aggression and defiance which, for him, are related to his ADHD). You may want to drop in at the Special Needs board--we're full of advice over there winky.gif.

 

post #60 of 68

Two kids and no vaccines whatsoever here either.  

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