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post #1 of 26
Thread Starter 

My 7 month old has been having some poop problems. Specifically, he's having hard rabbi pellet type poops with undigested balls of food in them. He's having them many times a day and they seem to really bother him. He's getting 18-24 oz of formula a day (he's never been a big bottle lover) and loves to eat. He eats a mixture of organic jarred foods (veg and fruit, loves it all) and homemade purees. I also feed him some wholegrain oatmeal. He doesn't get any liquids that aren't formula. I try to feed him high fiber foods like fruits and veggies but nothing seems to be helping to soften the poop. What's going on here? Do you have any stool softening remedies?

post #2 of 26

According to my ped, hard pellet-like poopies is defniitely constipation. Since your LO is on solids now, is there any way you could introduce prunes or prune juice? And how about increasing his water/milk intake? If he's only getting liquids from formula, that could be an issue....maybe you could introduce plain water?

 

Otherwise, I'd call your ped. Good luck to you mama!

post #3 of 26
Thread Starter 

I would love to increase his fluid intake, but he won't drink any more liquid! He really needs to be drinking more fornula, but he simply won't take the bottle anymore. I gave him prunes this afternoon which resulted in a hard but large stool (not the usual pellet) so things seem to be improving a little bit. I have tried to give him water in a bottle but he's just not interested. Last night he slept from 7pm-6:00am and didn't have anything to eat, and when he woke up he only drank around 4 ounces of milk. I would have guessed he'd be starving.

 

Is it possible I'm allowing him to eat too much solids so he's not interested in his formula? He loves, loves loves anything on a spoon so he keeps opening his mouth. I'm feeding him 3X a day and his total intake is probably 6oz puree and 2-3T of barley cereal. I never really know when to stop feeding him because he's so excited about eating. I'm feeling like if he drank more of his bottles he might not have this problem.

post #4 of 26

Have you tried giving him water or formula out of a cup (sippy or otherwise)?  The novelty might be encouraging.  Pears are also great for loosening things up - just stay away from bananas.

post #5 of 26
Thread Starter 

I have tried a few sippies (Vital Baby, Avent Magic Trainer, and Green Sprouts Trainer) but I haven't found one that he can effectively drink out of. The Avent one is the worst, he really can't figure it out. The Green Sprouts was the best spout but it leaked everywhere. Does anyone have one to suggest?

post #6 of 26

Cecilia does really well with this Munchkin one. It takes biting to get water out of the soft spout, so it won't arbitrarily spill.

post #7 of 26

I would also reduce solids, especially anything that could be causing the compacting, until this gets resolved.  Increasing prunes in all forms and also apricots and pears, again in any form - fresh, dried, or juiced, is what I would start with to gently get things moving.  Good luck!

post #8 of 26
If it were me, I'd be concerned about reduced intake of breastmilk or formula. Those should be the majority of baby's diet until one year old, since they contain all the complete nutrition that baby needs for optimal growth. I would think that the reduced amount of fluids would lead to constipation, and so would the increased load of more difficult-to-digest carbohydrates. So if it were me, I'd be cutting back sharply on the solids, and encouraging nursing or the bottle as much as possible. Reducing dietary fat can also lead to constipation-- and adding high-fiber foods can often just make it worse, if there aren't fluids enough and fats enough to keep things moving optimally.

You might try solids like egg yolk or pureed meats, if baby really wants to eat, to keep the intake of protein and fat up.

As far as cups-- my kids LOVED to play with open cups at that age. It makes a gigantic mess as they figure it out, so sit baby in the bathtub, or on a pile of towels. But it's a lot of fun, and they do get quite a lot of water actually down the hatch, after a little practice. The spillproof sippy valves can be hard for little mouths to figure out-- have you tried removing the valve, so the water flows freely? Again there's the spill problem, but if you hold the cup for baby, or if you resort to bathtub or towels, it can work very well.
post #9 of 26
Thread Starter 

I am totally worried about his liquid intake! My ped said he might just not be a huge drinker, which is true. He's never been super into milk. He was never a kid who just WAILED to be fed. At a young age he just wouldn't eat for hours on end (like, maybe 8 weeks) and I'd have to remind him to eat. I'll definitely try and cut his solids intake, probably lunch since I think that's when this whole problem began.

post #10 of 26

Hmm, my dd was (still is) bad about fluid intake, except when she used to nurse. We had our severe bouts of constipation, too, and nothing seemed to really help it. She was eventually - as a toddler! - diagnosed as being lactose intolerant. That is surprisingly often a cause for constipation in small children. We only figured it out after dd got salmonella and she was given lactulose to help her, erm, gets the eggs out quicker. It made her constipation worse! So that is something to maybe keep in mind, but you ds needs his formula.

So I agree with the others, cut back on the solids, except for stool softening foods. Increase water intake where and when you can. If that doesn't help, ask your doc about trying lactulose. And maybe check out a pediatric nutrition specialist if you can. Good luck, mama!

post #11 of 26
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So yesterday DS got about 26 oz of formula which is a really good amount, but he still is having some firm stools. He's only getting stool softening foods at this point (fruit, sweet potatoes, peas, etc.). We just introduced a little bit of yogurt thinking the probiotics might help him. I know that yogurt keeps me quite regular. Also, I thought the extra fat and protein might help as well. I don't know about lactose intolerance. He's been on formula since birth (almost) and I feel like I would have known about any adverse reaction to dairy by now, right? Before we introduced the little bit of yogurt, the only dairy he got was from his formula. Until a few weeks ago, he's always had good sized poops.

 

Does anyone else have any suggestions? Foods that really worked fr them?

post #12 of 26

Well, if things were fine until a few weeks ago, what changed exactly? And the lactose intolerance deal would be something to look into if you absolutely aren't getting anywhere with your other efforts.

post #13 of 26


 

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So yesterday DS got about 26 oz of formula which is a really good amount, but he still is having some firm stools. He's only getting stool softening foods at this point (fruit, sweet potatoes, peas, etc.). We just introduced a little bit of yogurt thinking the probiotics might help him. I know that yogurt keeps me quite regular. Also, I thought the extra fat and protein might help as well. I don't know about lactose intolerance. He's been on formula since birth (almost) and I feel like I would have known about any adverse reaction to dairy by now, right? Before we introduced the little bit of yogurt, the only dairy he got was from his formula. Until a few weeks ago, he's always had good sized poops.

 

Does anyone else have any suggestions? Foods that really worked fr them?

 

My DD is 13 months old and has been dealing with some constipation since around 8ish months as well. It's getting better now though. We find pear juice works really well - we just hold a regular cup for her and she drinks from it. Maybe your DS would take it from a spoon? She gets probiotics once a day (as well as in yogurt). We also avoid bananas as they were a problem early on. Your little one might be too young but we also cut up dried prunes for DD and she loves them!
 

post #14 of 26

I feel you on trying to push more formula intake.  Mine's a poor drinker, too.  I do think, however, that your LO is probably low on fluids.  High fiber foods become binding if fluid intake isn't increased (in adults, anyway - guessing it works the same way in babies).  We have a Tilty sippy cup that we really like.  You can get a slow flow or regular flow cap for it.  I think DD gets most of her water, though, by skiving it off of my big glass.  Have you tried giving your LO water from your own big person cup?  Also, DD loves taking her Prevacid with a spoon and will continue to drink water that way long after the Prevacid is gone.  Just try to get used to giving him a little water every time he eats.  Good luck getting the poop flowing again!!!

 

P.S.  Don't take this the wrong way, but I spent, like, 5 minutes trying to figure out what rabbis had to do with poop. :)

post #15 of 26

I didn't read all the replies but I highly reccomend mixing apple juice with water. And try offering it in a cup- in little sips.  you may first need to get him used to it with a spoon. use as much apple juice as you need so that he will take it.  we had major constipation issues with ds around that age- for a whole month or more he was pooping every 9 days- we were doing lots of suppositories- it really sounds to me like your baby needs way more liquids. For us, I finally figured it out by suggestion from someone- and within a couple of days of juice-waterhe was pooping regularly. we give him juice water regularly now at 10 months. I offer wtaer too and sometimes he will drink it but not often- but he does like juice water. I think it is essential that babies have enough liquids once they are having solids- and to me, having the sugar in the diet from the juice is not that big a deal compared to the huge benifits of hydration! Ds has teeth now so I Am sure to brush them regularly. But seriously- try the apple juice water on a spoon first, as often as you can- and then try to introduce the cup- we never had luck with the sippy cup- just a regular cup and that took time. Now he drinks from it very well!

post #16 of 26
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I didn't read all the replies but I highly reccomend mixing apple juice with water. And try offering it in a cup- in little sips.  you may first need to get him used to it with a spoon. use as much apple juice as you need so that he will take it.  we had major constipation issues with ds around that age- for a whole month or more he was pooping every 9 days- we were doing lots of suppositories- it really sounds to me like your baby needs way more liquids. For us, I finally figured it out by suggestion from someone- and within a couple of days of juice-waterhe was pooping regularly. we give him juice water regularly now at 10 months. I offer wtaer too and sometimes he will drink it but not often- but he does like juice water. I think it is essential that babies have enough liquids once they are having solids- and to me, having the sugar in the diet from the juice is not that big a deal compared to the huge benifits of hydration! Ds has teeth now so I Am sure to brush them regularly. But seriously- try the apple juice water on a spoon first, as often as you can- and then try to introduce the cup- we never had luck with the sippy cup- just a regular cup and that took time. Now he drinks from it very well!

That is sooo true and that's what we ended up doing with dd. She drinks TONS of applejuice mixed with water now and won't hardly touch regular water which is I guess partly the reason why I didn't recommend juice. I'm not too happy about her current consumption, but at the time, we were really struggling with her constipation issues/lactose intolerance. She doesn't have any weight issues, but she's getting soft around the middle which could be caused by anything, especially other sweets. She is prone to cavities, though, but that might just be hereditary. So yeah, watch those new teeth!
 

post #17 of 26

DS just got over a few days of constipation. He too just started solids. I cut back on the solids for a few days, increased the nursing and gave him some water and some water mixed with prune juice- I think the prune juice really did it. In fact the last poop that seemed to unplug his works smelled a little pruny! lol.gif I think we'll just pay attention to nursing as much as before and offer water with solids and see how it goes.

post #18 of 26
Thread Starter 

Things have definitely gotten better. Daniel has been getting a tablespoon of whole milk Greek yogurt in the morning and he's been having some much better poops. I've also been feeding him some more jarred food lately because I've been a little lazy and I've been trying to make sure he's getting at least 2 grams of fiber per serving. I've also been a little more mindful of how much food I'm feeding him and making sure he's getting more milk. We still haven't had much luck with the sippy cup or even a bottle with juice or water in it.

post #19 of 26
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That is sooo true and that's what we ended up doing with dd. She drinks TONS of applejuice mixed with water now and won't hardly touch regular water which is I guess partly the reason why I didn't recommend juice. I'm not too happy about her current consumption, but at the time, we were really struggling with her constipation issues/lactose intolerance. She doesn't have any weight issues, but she's getting soft around the middle which could be caused by anything, especially other sweets. She is prone to cavities, though, but that might just be hereditary. So yeah, watch those new teeth!
 



Do you think the cavities are related to the consumption of juice? How old is your baby that drinks the juice water? My only concern over his daily use of juice water is the cavities thing. do you think it can cause cavities if I brush the teeth with a sm am't of toothpaste on a daily basis? did you brush your baby's teeth that were cavity prone?

post #20 of 26
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Originally Posted by Terrilein View Post



That is sooo true and that's what we ended up doing with dd. She drinks TONS of applejuice mixed with water now and won't hardly touch regular water which is I guess partly the reason why I didn't recommend juice. I'm not too happy about her current consumption, but at the time, we were really struggling with her constipation issues/lactose intolerance. She doesn't have any weight issues, but she's getting soft around the middle which could be caused by anything, especially other sweets. She is prone to cavities, though, but that might just be hereditary. So yeah, watch those new teeth!
 



Do you think the cavities are related to the consumption of juice? How old is your baby that drinks the juice water? My only concern over his daily use of juice water is the cavities thing. do you think it can cause cavities if I brush the teeth with a sm am't of toothpaste on a daily basis? did you brush your baby's teeth that were cavity prone?


My dd is 10 yrs old now and still a juice addict. If she gets lazy about brushing her teeth then she gets cavities. It might be hereditary though. Her father and grandmother don't have a single real tooth left in their mouths, but I always thought it was due to different, erm, hygiene standards. Also I think baby teeth are more susceptible to cavities than permenent teeth - they just don't seem to be as hard. And I don't think she's had a cavity in a permanent tooth yet.

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