Can you believe people do this and Why ?

[Mom2Brendan]

Well,  remember the post before that was all mixed up and not that very understandable ?

Well, I fired that lady in December told her that her habbits were unacceptable and I needed some help without criticism .

So, yesterday I get a call to go to  the landlady office well and when I get there .  There is the lady I fired in the office doing even more criticism at me in front of the landlady .

The landlady also has a letter written  up dated Feb 1. 

She mentioned on the letter how she determined that in October my place was in more of a need to have more cleaning done .

So then the question is Why did she wait until Feb to tell me ?

Also, I asked the landlady at the time of her inspection  as in how was it ? Did I pass ? She said it was fine and told me not to worry .

So, now why would the landlady lie to me ?

Also, I believe the lady I fired  contacted the landlady who now  is going to  inspect my place more than every 6 months because in my file it shows the reasons why I don't understand the need for my living place to be clean .

Which is false and people don't know  what goes on in my life but a total bunch of judgemental critics who are full of assumptions .

[doubledutch]

i'm sorry. 

[soso-lynn]

Wow, people can be quite mean-spirited sometimes.

You should check with your local rental board and find out the rules your landlord needs to follow. I am in Canada and know for a fact that landlords have no right to inspect apartments and make reports.

I would also contact the superior of the lady you fired (if she works for a company) and let them know about what she is doing. I would even threaten a lawsuit over this. 

[MamitaM]

I don't understand why anyone needs to inspect how clean your apartment is. I've never heard of a landlord inspecting how clean apartments are. I have heard of CPS coming in to check though or social workers IF there is an open file on the family. Am I missing something? Is it different in the States then in Canada?

[philomom]

Originally Posted by MamitaM 

I don't understand why anyone needs to inspect how clean your apartment is. I've never heard of a landlord inspecting how clean apartments are. I have heard of CPS coming in to check though or social workers IF there is an open file on the family. Am I missing something? Is it different in the States then in Canada?

Landlords need to know that emergency services can reach you in your home.  Also, fire codes exist to help folks get out of home in a timely manner should the premises be burning down.

Landlords also need to protect their investments..... if you are harboring mold, insects or rodents... you could be placing other people and property values at risk.

[VisionaryMom]

Originally Posted by soso-lynn 

Wow, people can be quite mean-spirited sometimes.

You should check with your local rental board and find out the rules your landlord needs to follow. I am in Canada and know for a fact that landlords have no right to inspect apartments and make reports.

That's not true in the US. Landlords can inspect your apartment. (It does belong to them, not you, after all!) In most states, there are statutes requiring "reasonable notice," which usually means something like 48 hours.
 

[Super~Single~Mama]

Originally Posted by VisionaryMom 

Originally Posted by soso-lynn 

Wow, people can be quite mean-spirited sometimes.

You should check with your local rental board and find out the rules your landlord needs to follow. I am in Canada and know for a fact that landlords have no right to inspect apartments and make reports.

That's not true in the US. Landlords can inspect your apartment. (It does belong to them, not you, after all!) In most states, there are statutes requiring "reasonable notice," which usually means something like 48 hours.
 

It's not quite that simple.  I don't have time to look it up and post now, but I will try tomorrow.  I know that notice is required, and that the landlord needs a reason.

[MamitaM]

Originally Posted by philomom 

Originally Posted by MamitaM 

I don't understand why anyone needs to inspect how clean your apartment is. I've never heard of a landlord inspecting how clean apartments are. I have heard of CPS coming in to check though or social workers IF there is an open file on the family. Am I missing something? Is it different in the States then in Canada?

Landlords need to know that emergency services can reach you in your home.  Also, fire codes exist to help folks get out of home in a timely manner should the premises be burning down.

Landlords also need to protect their investments..... if you are harboring mold, insects or rodents... you could be placing other people and property values at risk.

I do understand that a landlord has some rights and responsabilites, but wouldn't most sort of assume that tenants will keep their homes clean or at least not so dirty they can't get out in an emergency? I have friends who do live and rent in The States and none of them ever have their homes inspected by the landlords or anyone else. My home has never been inspected either by anyone. So I'm wondering why there would be a reason to inspect her home unless CPS or something like that was involved. Maybe the state the OP is in has rules that everyone who rents must be inspected at certain times?

[VisionaryMom]

Originally Posted by Super~Single~Mama 

It's not quite that simple.  I don't have time to look it up and post now, but I will try tomorrow.  I know that notice is required, and that the landlord needs a reason.

No, but there are many, many valid reasons. It would be incredibly difficult to deny a landlord the right to enter if s/he really wanted to. My commercial lease actually has more provisions for exclusion than any residential lease I've had (and I've lived in multiple states and both from private individuals and complexes).
 

Originally Posted by MamitaM 

Originally Posted by philomom 

Landlords need to know that emergency services can reach you in your home.  Also, fire codes exist to help folks get out of home in a timely manner should the premises be burning down.

Landlords also need to protect their investments..... if you are harboring mold, insects or rodents... you could be placing other people and property values at risk.

I do understand that a landlord has some rights and responsabilites, but wouldn't most sort of assume that tenants will keep their homes clean or at least not so dirty they can't get out in an emergency? I have friends who do live and rent in The States and none of them ever have their homes inspected by the landlords or anyone else. My home has never been inspected either by anyone. So I'm wondering why there would be a reason to inspect her home unless CPS or something like that was involved. Maybe the state the OP is in has rules that everyone who rents must be inspected at certain times?

I've never had my apartment inspected, but the right to do so has been in every lease I've signed. Typically it's done to allow entry if there's a problem in the apartment, required/needed maintenance, or if there are complaints (smells, mold that neighbors think are coming from your apartment). The OP seems to live in Section 8 housing, though, and the rules can be different there. I also couldn't tell from her long-ago post whether she is perhaps receiving other services that require/allow for entering the apartment routinely.

[Mom2Brendan]

In certain states inspection from landlords happen to vary .

I know New Jersey, Texas , my state montana, and I think utah do every 6 months inspections.

I lived in California for 5 yrs and only one time out of 5 yrs was when a landlord inspected the apartment.

It seems strange when No CPS is involved that they check 2-3 times out of  a year in Montana.

Plus, I wouldn't understand why the landlady wouldn't confront me with an immediate concern at the time of the inspection ?

Why wait so long on this and lie to me if the landlady did have a True Concern ? 

She told me not to worry and its just fine . That was when I asked her and if she did have true concerns why would she be so afraid to approach me on this subject ?

That's why I think it was the gal who I fired she proably thought well I wasn't listening to her so she was going to go to the apartment manager.

When I walked into that office yesterday and saw that lady who I fired sitting there . It made me feel like I was walking into a school meeting that had my mother in there with the principal trying to  Use My Voice as in Speaking For Me .

When people do that I lose trust and I lack trust of letting people in because someone can be just so judgemental that something can be out of sorts that they dislike then they go to the top.

I can work myself in a tizzy over and over when it comes to cleaning my apartment that I start to hyperventilate .

Plus, I worked so hard in October getting my place ready for the inspection after Walking into a Parking Sign as in Smacking my head against it so bad that I had a mild Concussion, severe headaches , severe neck strain , and severe back pain .

The apartment inspection was only three weeks after that incident .  So tell me if that sounds like fun ?

It seems so strange Why would she assume I don't understand the Need of Cleaning when I pick Up Stranger Dog Poop, and I pick up garbage from the Yard as in picking up the ciggy butts of neighbors who just throw them on the ground .

Her Reaction is like People Disrespect Property that's the way it is !

There are Bad People around here that are entering peoples apartments, cars and vandalizing cars .  She don't care about  the trouble maker but rather stress out the non-trouble makers.

Even my neighbor who I help out she was like pissed off for that happening saying I do so much good around here !

[Mom2Brendan]

Yes, I'm on Section 8 and there is only a few tenants who are on Section 8.  The rest are not on Section 8.  The Section 8 inspections are only once a year from the Housing Authority .

The landlady does Her Own Inspection every other 6 months to check smoke alarms, to see if things work, and she did mention she wanted it to be sanitary .

So, many people have told me you can pass with the Housing Authority so don't worry about it but I showed them a reason why I have a 'reason to panic when it comes to inspections'  because you never know their true impression !

[pupsnelda]

Mom2Brendan, I answered your other post about the cleaning lady where I got confused. And I am really sorry but I still do not get the story. There must be something else going on which we do not know, some part of your story missing, so it is really difficult to comment.

[DariusMom]

Originally Posted by pupsnelda 

Mom2Brendan, I answered your other post about the cleaning lady where I got confused. And I am really sorry but I still do not get the story. There must be something else going on which we do not know, some part of your story missing, so it is really difficult to comment.

This.

[Goodmom2008]

Originally Posted by Mom2Brendan 

Also, I believe the lady I fired  contacted the landlady who now  is going to  inspect my place more than every 6 months because in my file it shows the reasons why I don't understand the need for my living place to be clean .

I would make it clear to your landlord that that lady is NOT to enter your home at all.  She was supposed to help you clean the home and NEVER did her job so you fired her for that.  Make it clear that your landlord is the only one who can enter your home to inspect the cleanliness.  And point out that the LL had said it was acceptable the last time that your place was inspected.  You have to wonder what the former cleaning lady, who never did any cleaning, is up to. 

And then report the former cleaning lady to her supervisor. 

[Mom2Brendan]

The answer is more likely due to the fact that people have a Need to Control Me and to act like Mother Hens.  I have a mild disablity that doesn't effect me but as long as I'm with a disablity it makes people do things because of negative views assuming I'm helpless and vunerable. 

People in Montana seems to see files on me that proably results in Negative Views that occured before I lived in California.

I did not get any negative views on apartment  in California .   After my son was born and he was only a week old .  I went shopping at the Ralphs store  and went into the restroom. 

A stranger came up to me making comments and asking Questions. I went to leave the restroom and she shouted Stop I'm not done talking to you . So I looked her in the face  and stood up for  myself .

First time I could ever do that and have someone understand to Leave Me Alone . That's what that lady did as in left me alone after I did that .

For some reason Montana Workers when they hear me standing up for myself they just look at it as being defiant .

[philomom]

Mom to Brendan... your posts still lack clarity. A story has a beginning, a middle and an end. 

Why do you need a cleaning lady if your disability is mild?

Why would you resent anyone who's "doing their job" when they check up on you?

I think many of us would like to help you and talk to you but we aren't getting a clear picture of your life.

[MamitaM]

I'm going to try and be sensitive in saying this, but you do sound a little defensive sometimes. Especially when many of us can't understand your posts. The disability that you have, does it make you more sensitive to others?

I don't think anyone should enter your home with out notice to inspect it, unless it's the owner and she has a very valid reason to inspect it, like it smells strongly or something. It sounds like your home is clean enough though and isn't causing danger to your son.

[laohaire]

<shrug> I think she's quite non-defensive, actually.

Granted, I don't understand the whole situation either, but that's ok. I assume she's just looking to vent, and it does sound like a lousy situation.

[Mom2Brendan]

Yep, just looking to vent.  In ways when I just want help with cleaning because I used to Be Severely Messy in 98-01 .  After I moved to California in 01 I lived with my ex whose my son's father until 05 .   Since I knew how the landlords were in the year of 98-01 that I have some to try to help me so I can be more cleaner because I fear to someone over judging me or  being more pickier on what their POV of Cleaniless is that if someone don't like it they will report me with shelter neglect.

It's a pretty confusing and drama like situation that is just frustrating .

[pupsnelda]

Maybe it's me, but I am too stupid, I DO NOT UNDERSTAND. And I would love to understand but i do not get what all this is about. Not the details, not the timelines, not the venting. Sorry, but I try and try every time you post something and I can't post anything helpful because I DO NOT UNDERSTAND. Maybe somebody else. does.