***Bitter Sushi Ladies February 2011 Thread*** - Page 7

[lavatea]

Another all about me post.

I'm officially out. This really sucks. I should really have a baby by now. This new cycle is the one year anniversary of the cycle where I conceived my second m/c baby. I think my cycle dates are pretty close to where they were last year so if we conceive this time, the baby will probably be due around the same time as last year's baby. (Take that back - I checked the due date calculator and I must be about 2 weeks ahead.) Not that any of this date matching means diddly squat. If I'm lucky enough to actually get pregnant, I'll probably just m/c again anyway. Gah, I'm in a foul mood. DH went to get me some wine. I'm probably going to drink the whole bottle and cry myself to sleep.

I'm thinking about you guys. So glad you are here to listen and that you actually understand.

ETA - Do I want to keep temping this cycle? IDK if I do or not. Actually, I know I don't want to. The only reason I'm thinking about doing it anyway is because I like looking at my charts. I definitely haven't missed checking my cervix, so I'm going to keep skipping that. I know I'm going to use my OPKs b/c I have a million of them so I might as well, but my plan is to just BD every day between CDs 10&19. I plan on using my soy and folic acid again. And I'm ordering more Vitamin E and prenatals tonight. I bought Vitamin C today so I'm adding that to my regimen. And I'll use my baby aspirin post-O again. Anything else you guys recommend? Maca maybe?

[LessTraveledBy]

Lavatea... So sorry this cycle was not it! I like Maca, so yeah, no harm in that.

I have to say, though, that every other day should be just fine, as far as I understand. I think (but this is just us) that every day 10 days in a row would end up with some sort of burnout. We just could not keep that up, happily.

[lilmom]

Lavatea! I am so sorry honey. 

I hope your wine helps a little teeny bit.

Everybody else, thinking of y'all too but I'm just driving by tonight..leaving early in the morning and it's extremely late but I needed to wind down. DS didn't go to sleep until after 11pm tonight. He is so worried about this trip. Not good. I need prayer and lots of it for the week ahead. I don' t know if I'll be able to post or not while we are out of town. Maybe drive by's from my phone.

Oh! rcr! Super excited for you and praying for your little eggies to become beautiful babies!!!

[monkeyscience]

Lavatea -

rcr - Glad to hear retrieval went well. When do you hear about fertilization? When would transfer happen?

Kyamo - Been thinking about you... where are you at now in your process?

AFM... after a truly awful day at work yesterday, and after trying very hard not to despite my mood, I got dh all upset last night so I ended up crying myself to sleep. Hooray. At least I ate some tasty chocolate torte before all of that.

[Kyamo]

Originally Posted by monkeyscience 

Lavatea -

rcr - Glad to hear retrieval went well. When do you hear about fertilization? When would transfer happen?

Kyamo - Been thinking about you... where are you at now in your process?

AFM... after a truly awful day at work yesterday, and after trying very hard not to despite my mood, I got dh all upset last night so I ended up crying myself to sleep. Hooray. At least I ate some tasty chocolate torte before all of that.

Sorry about your bad day. I am 10DPO, so still waiting to see if the 2nd IUI worked. Not feeling very hopeful right now.

[lavatea]

Originally Posted by lilmom 

Lavatea! I am so sorry honey. 

I hope your wine helps a little teeny bit.

Hahaha, when I first read this I read it, "I hope your whine helps a teeny bit." In any case, I do feel better today. I think I will keep temping, but only on the days I don't work. When I get up 2 1/2 hours earlier than normal it's hard to trust your temps anyway. Oh, and I didn't temp this morning, and I'm not stressing about it.

monkey - Sorry to hear you had a bad night. Hope your weekend is much better.

lilmom - Good luck on your trip. You're heading to Dallas, right? We're not making a trip in this weekend or I'd suggest a meet-up/playdate, lol.

[miriam_bat_avraham]

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Edited by miriam_bat_avraham - 4/22/13 at 6:30pm

[Sweet.Bee]

lavatea, 

miriam, Kyamo, and everyone else in the TWW, 

monkey, sorry you had a bad day. Bad days while TTC are even harder than normal bad days.

lilmom, hoping for a stress-free trip for you.

As for me, I just got a + OPK! CD20, which is a bit early for me nowadays (used to be, I would have Oed by now). Based on my OPK history, I expect O in ~2 days, I think. The best part was the test line was 2-3 times darker than the control, which is the darkest I've ever had by far, even though my pee was not as concentrated as I usually have when testing. I'm hoping this is a good sign. I know it's dangerous to get my hopes up like this, but I just can't help but feel good. At least for the next 2 weeks.

And it's Valentine's Day! Too bad my husband is sick. Also, I had tons of EWCM 2 days ago, and now just watery. Weird.

[rcr]

Hi all:

I have been reading along, but not posting much because I don't have a computer at home - only my phone.

Lava, I am so sorry. You really need to get pregnant and stay that way and get out of here. :hug I was really hoping for you.

SweetBee - yay for the +OPK.

MBA - ugh, injectables. I hope it does not come to that. I forgot, do you have fertility insurance coverage?

AFM - I have a rough/wonderful weekend. The retrieval was not too bad. I don't remember a thing. Apparently I was asking to see the eggs when they took them out of me (and apparently they said no). They ended up getting 8 eggs, which is 2 more than we were expecting. Only 5 of them were mature enough to sperminate (which is normal). I got a call the next day for my "fertilization report" and the lab tech told me that none of the 5 were showing signs of fertilization. She said that she was putting them back in the incubator, in hopes that they would show signs the next day, but that was unlikely. I spent the morning googling to see if it is even possible, and everything that I read said that it was not. Eggs show signs of fertilization within 12 - 14 hours, or they just aren't fertilized.

So, I also found out that in IVF, the only really sure thing is that if you do ICSI, when you inject one sperm into each egg (which we did because DH has 0% morphology), they will fertilize. There is something like a 80%-90% success rate for fertilization with ICSI. How in the world my five eggs could not be fertilized was extremely unusual. I spent most of the day crying in the bed or watching movies or googling, and thinking about if we could have kids from donor eggs and/or sperm.

On Sunday morning I got a call telling me that two of them worked. The woman had been working there for something like 17 years and had only seen it happen a few times. The eggs are a little behind (2 cells instead of 4 cells, as of yesterday), but it looks like they are fertilized. I am hoping that they both continue to grow - eventually into happy and healthy twins.

Transfer is going to be Wed around noon, hopefully.

[lavatea]

mba - Stay strong! Hold out until 14 dpo, at least. Awesome about finding that gift card. Enjoy your book.

sweet.bee - Be pushy and make your DH BD anyway, lol. It sounds like you're really close to O.

rcr - What a rollercoaster. Sounds like you've got two stubborn kiddos there. Hope you're ready for them!

[Sweet.Bee]

rcr, what a story! I'm so glad the last part was a happy ending, or else I would have had to cry a little for you. I hope your twins develop nicely.

lavatea, if it were up to me, there would be BD, trust me.  But my husband has spent the entire day in bed or on the sofa in a kind of semiconscious stupor. Chances don't look good for tonight. In theory, I have a few more days until O, but when I see a + OPK, I think we should try 1x day from then on out. Trying not to panic. Poor guy is feeling really icky. It's just that if I were sick (and I have been many times around O), there would be BD. Men are such wimps. 

[GMum]

Lavatea -  so sorry.

rcr -  thinking of you for Wednesday

Huge hugs to everyone else too - thinking of you all on this journey.

[collieflower]

Rcr - Those are two very tenacious embryos! I`m so glad you`ve had a positive outcome thus far.  Good luck on Wednesday. The BSL will be thinking about you and sending you good vibes!

BTW - So cute that you were asking to see the eggs. It would be pretty cool to see them, although I guess they must be pretty tiny!

[Kinza]

rcr:  So glad you have two embies!  for Wednesday.

[rcr]

thanks for all the good thoughts. You are all so sweet. I do appreciate all the prayers and positive vibes. I do believe strongly in the power of that kind of stuff.

Collie - actually, I think they give you a picture of the embryos under the microscope before transfer. How weird would it be to have a picture of your kids when they were literally just a group of cells! This whole thing has been really amazing.

Sweet bee- hope dh feels better soon. Missing the bd chance is a horrible feeling.

[LessTraveledBy]

Ugh! My most favorite clothing brand just started a maternity line.... :(

My mystery cycle might finally be coming to a phase I can recognize. I think I am ovulating, just did, or something like that. (I thought I had possibly ovulated on cd 8 or something crazy.) The sure thing is that this cycle is quite unlike any other, not in a good way.

We have tons of snow and lots of sunshine, so it is easier than normal right now to just enjoy life. I am doing better than average (for me) right now, emotionally and am grateful for that.

Sending you all lots of positive thoughts.

[rcr]

Ltb - hoping the crazy cycle means a bfp for you.

I just stumbled upon a post in a different thread where somebody said she has been trying for two months and is so depressed with "all the bfn's" ha!

Thanks for bearing with me with all my ivf talk. I know this isn't the ivf thread, but I have been here so long it would feel weird to not talk about what I am going through.

[collieflower]

Rcr - I personally am fascinated by the IVF talk. Plus, you've been with us for a while and I don't think anyone here would expect you not to share your journey just because it's different than some of ours.  I think we're all in this together.  We're all following slightly different paths, but we're here to support each other, hear each other's stories and learn from each other.

[Jane]

I like hearing it here rcr
That means I don't have to stalk you.

[slylives]

AFM - So, I also found out that in IVF, the only really sure thing is that if you do ICSI, when you inject one sperm into each egg (which we did because DH has 0% morphology), they will fertilize. There is something like a 80%-90% success rate for fertilization with ICSI. How in the world my five eggs could not be fertilized was extremely unusual. I spent most of the day crying in the bed or watching movies or googling, and thinking about if we could have kids from donor eggs and/or sperm.

On Sunday morning I got a call telling me that two of them worked. The woman had been working there for something like 17 years and had only seen it happen a few times. The eggs are a little behind (2 cells instead of 4 cells, as of yesterday), but it looks like they are fertilized. I am hoping that they both continue to grow - eventually into happy and healthy twins.

I just wanted to give you a quick BTDT. When I had my IVF in September, we had a really poor fertilisation rate. I want to say less than 50%, and the RE said that he hoped to see around 80-90%. He actually said that he was "not terribly thrilled" with the results, and was already considering changes that he could make to our protocol for the next cycle. On day 3 or 4 they called to say that the day 5 transfer would probably be delayed to day 6, because of the 4 that were fertilised, all 4 were developing more slowly than they expected (as you said, 2 cells instead of 4, 4 instead of 8.) I was absolutely bereft, especially after I googled success rates for day 6 transfers. The tech told me that "if we don't call you by 8am tomorrow (day 5) then we're on for a day 5 transfer. If we call you it's day 6"  So I spent the next morning praying that the phone wouldn't ring.

Guess what? It didn't. We went to the clinic and got marvellous news. One of the embryos had not only caught up, but went shooting ahead. It had become a full blastocyst (100+ cells) and we were good to go. Apparently only around 30% of embryos reach blastocyst stage on day 5, and they are considered prime embryos to implant. And you can see my signature for how things are going.

Those 2 or 3 days of waiting were by far the most difficult stage and I wish you were not going through it. I am sending all my best wishes your way. It's not over until it's over.