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post #141 of 299

Hi Sly!  Glad to see that you are doing so well. You are so far along! ~ This may be better as an 'on the side' kind of question, but I'm not sure how to do that. I was just wondering how and why you decided to go with IVF after three miscarriages? I've had four miscarriages; three since DS was born. Before the second post-DS miscarriage, we had started saving for IVF. However, after the latest miscarriage, we just assumed there would be no point going with IVF since we'd be spending a fortune to achieve another pregnancy that would likely miscarry. Did you think about that possibility? Did your doctors have any insight? Hope you don't mind me asking.

post #142 of 299

Best of luck rcr, I hope everything goes smoothly for you tomorrow! Sending baby vibes goodvibes.gif

 

We have another fertility appointment on Thursday so maybe I'll be on the IVF train in a couple of months. I'm ovulating today but I don't even care anymore. DP had asked me to make sure he knows when I'm fertile, but he gets stage fright every time I do, so I'm going to stop. The thing is, though, when the new doctor said the words "severe low sperm count" I kind of lost hope of getting pregnant the old fashioned way. I know there is still a chance, but I don't feel like getting my hopes up anymore.

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Originally Posted by collieflower View Post

Hi Sly!  Glad to see that you are doing so well. You are so far along! ~ This may be better as an 'on the side' kind of question, but I'm not sure how to do that. I was just wondering how and why you decided to go with IVF after three miscarriages? I've had four miscarriages; three since DS was born. Before the second post-DS miscarriage, we had started saving for IVF. However, after the latest miscarriage, we just assumed there would be no point going with IVF since we'd be spending a fortune to achieve another pregnancy that would likely miscarry. Did you think about that possibility? Did your doctors have any insight? Hope you don't mind me asking.

 

Hi Collieflower,

 

Well, our history is convoluted. Our daughter was born in 2008 (first month of "trying") and then we had an ectopic followed by 2 early miscarriages. The doctors considered our ectopic to be purely a fluke, and even though 2 early losses was devastating to us, the medical professionals we spoke to still did not consider it an issue of 'recurrent miscarriage'. Rightly or wrongly, I don't know. We had the full gamut of tests and they came up with nothing. Then we had three months of Clomid - again, nothing. I just felt this incredible time pressure, moreso because of my husband's age (he is 45) and also because I really wanted to have children quite close in age (well, that plan went out of the window!) So we looked at IUI v. IVF and our RE told us that essentially the success rates for IUI are barely any better than Clomid.  So we figured we may as well get right to it with IVF.

 

So just before we went ahead, they did another round of tests. And eventually came up with something. RE thinks I am very mildly polycystic. I don't have the full PCOS but apparently my LH/FSH ratio was slightly inverted (I cannot remember which one is supposed to be higher) and my testosterone levels were slightly elevated. Apparently IVF is very successful in cases such as ours, because obviously IVF controls the hormonal environment (which, if left uncontrolled, can explain poor egg quality.) We considered IVF a way of having some "quality control", as it were. And after looking at what happened, I think that was the key. I probably could have conceived with any of the 4 eggs that fertilised - but if 3 of them didn't develop properly, and I had conceived with any of these, it probably wouldn't have worked out well. IDK - that's my own layman's opinion.

 

Certainly the first 12 weeks of the pregnancy were horrendously stressful, waiting for any twinge or feeling of wetness. But now I feel pretty good. I still cry at every midwife appointment (!) because I can't quite believe that I am here, and I certainly am not relaxing much or really enjoying the pregnancy the way I did with my first.  But Critter is moving around and I just pray every day that things continue to go well. I actually avoid most baby-related things (websites, etc) and I haven't bought so much as a onesie or thought about names. I keep thinking that I will jinx things. Silly, I know. Once we have a healthy baby, we'll think about all of that.

 

I could go on for hours about IVF, so feel free to PM me. I don't want to hijack this thread. I wish you all the best.

 

post #144 of 299

rcr, lots of fingersx.gif fingersx.gif fingersx.gif

 

slylives, your story made me tear up. I'm glad things are going well and many positive vibes for them to continue that way.

 

 

As expected, no BD yesterday. I'm still hoping for today. I'm sick now, which doesn't matter to me b/c I will push through, but my husband still has not recovered. After yesterday's super + OPK, today's was just barely negative, so caught the end of the surge this afternoon, I guess. I think I'll O tomorrow or the next day. For once, I'm hoping for 2 days from now due to timing.

 

Just a tangent now. I was talking to a mama of twins at our playdate today, and she said she went to the US for IVF b/c they do a 5-day transfer there, as opposed to the 2-day transfer they do here. Does that make such a big difference? We're really far from that right now (my first appointment with the specialist isn't until the end of May due to a long waiting list), but I am kind of curious in case we get to that point.

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Beloved - are you still here? I saw your post on DB

Sweet bee- sorry about the sick Dh. Men are such babies. We missed the chance a few months ago because dh was sick.

Yes I think it is a big difference between 2 or 3 and five days. I would go on more about it but I am typing on my phone and it would be long.

Sly - hi. Good to see you. I loved the story. So encouraged by it. How many did you transfer?
post #146 of 299
Thanks rcr, I am still here love.gif I just need a change in many ways.
post #147 of 299

We just transferred one - the super strong blastocyst. If I remember rightly, of the other 3, 2 were developing slowly and one stopped growing completely. But as my RE reminded me - all the embryos are genetically unique. And it only takes one.

post #148 of 299

Mission: Seduce Husband successful! winky.gif

 

Now on to the hoping.

post #149 of 299

rcr - What Jane said. Now I don't have to waste time stalking you!

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Originally Posted by Sweet.Bee View Post

Mission: Seduce Husband successful! winky.gif

 

Now on to the hoping.


Woot!! Go girl!

rcr - I don't mind the IVF talk. Like collie said, we're all on different journeys - (hopefully) leading to the same place.

Who was it having weird AF issues a few weeks back? I told you guys that my AFs are sometimes weird. Well, it's another weird one. I barely had anything yesterday (CD 4), just very light, brown flow for like an hour of the day. Most of the day was flow-less. Today I've had bright red bleeding again. WTH? It hasn't been all day, so in that way it's similar to yesterday, but why is it bright again??

I need to be keeping track of this stuff in case it means something to the OBGYN when I finally get to go. Of course, they'll probably just blow me off the way all practitioners seem to do (about recurrent m/c theories, charts, etc).
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Edited by miriam_bat_avraham - 4/22/13 at 6:29pm
post #152 of 299

I love hearing the IUI and IVF talk in here.  I might have to go down that path someday (IVF) so it's neat to know what to expect, and scary too.

 

Good luck to all of you.  MBA, I know how that goes - like 5 people had babies within the last month or two and my FB is overflowing with stupid baby photos and I am so enraged all the time :(  My jealously is full blown.

 

HOWEVER

 

IUI#1 - who wants to analyze some pee sticks for me?!  I have sticks every other day from 1 DPO to today's, at 11 DPO.

http://oinkoinkmoo.com/web/tests.jpg

 

The trigger shot fades out pretty much entirely between 5 and 7, I think... what do you see today?

 

Beloved:  hugs to you, I saw your FB post.

post #153 of 299

If it goes darker tomorrow, I'd say it's a BFP. 

post #154 of 299

I am joining this forum to be more informative....Baby dust to all.  I'm 30, my DH is 43, and we are TTC #1 for .the past 5yrs,I could go for straight 6 month without AF.I was given BCPs by my gyno and said this will only make me bleed like every other woman and wl nt get me pregnant...(very mean,was looking as if why is she not crying when she was telling me all d shit abt premature menupause.hormones imbalance...arggggghhhh...Devils incanate...I dnt like her!!!)Finally got to know by BRICHOLE(member on MDC) that i needed to see an RE after having done a comprehensive test and found out my Hormones are inbalance and it was called Premature menupause(I reject it IJN) I met with my RE today and After a very lengthy discussion, she took some blood for test...though i was told to come back on Friday Morning for the result. and then she dropped a line...she said i am sorry to tell you that if it happens to be Pre-mature menupause;sorry theres no treatment for that (HOW TRUE IS THAT???) and remember i said my gyno said its called premature menupause..... I hope and pray miracle happens! DH didnot drive me there, i had to go by public transport...very unlike him...Uhmmmmm God have mercy on me... Peepzzz please help me do your findings and let me know if there are drugs to be used.(All this German Doctors ,at times you really have to remind them of some stuffs) I am seriously feeling like the whole world is on me!!! Help mi ass!!!ve an appointment with her tomorrow..  I really hope this will work and work soon.  I just claim this year with everybreath in me!!! Forget about egg donor option...I dont like it cos genetically the baby isnt mine beside we cant even afford the cos at the moment.

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Ceccy, I'm sorry you're going through this. I don't know much about pre-menopause, so I'm not sure how much help I can be. Though I believe it's supposed to run in families. Did your mother suffer from it? An article I found: http://www.menopausetohealth.com/Pre-Menopause-Symptoms.html

 

With that said, 30 seems really young for this. Maybe the issue lies elsewhere. A number of us on this thread have long cycles/delayed ovulation. I have not been in to see a specialist yet (on the waiting list), but I believe the long cycle issue is typically treated with medications like Clomid.

 

It's good you are seeing a specialist. I felt my regular obgyn was pretty unhelpful and just brushed me off as though I were some kind of crazy person.

 

You're in Germany? I did the first half of my pregnancy checkups last time in Germany, and I had a really great doctor. So, not all of them are bad. smile.gif I hope you are able to figure this all out with your specialist.

 

 

As for me, my temp was 37.4 this morning. My usual post-O is like 36.4+, so that can't be right. I'm running a bit of a fever, it would seem. Spent all of last night sweating and freezing. Bah. Now, I won't even be able to pinpoint O. Still, I'm happy that we got in one BD at least.

post #156 of 299
kparker - I see something. fingersx.gif for you

miriam - you're lucky they schedule your blood test for 13DPO. I am required to get mine on 18DPO! It is so annoying, especially since the progesterone delays AF.

rcr - I like hearing about your IVF. I'm so glad for the good news on the embies. Good luck for your transfer.

AFM - I tested 11DPO BFN. My blood test is Sunday.
post #157 of 299
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Originally Posted by Ceccy View PostForget about egg donor option...I dont like it cos genetically the baby isnt mine beside we cant even afford the cos at the moment.


I was vaguely offended by this line as my own future children will not be genetically my husband's since he is sterile.  There is nothing wrong with this option, and as far as I know this is the only option.  A friend of mine had premature menopause at age 28 and she used both egg and sperm donors (to make it entirely new) and her and her husband, though the use of IVF, finally have their dream baby girl at her age of 36.  She went all over trying to figure out what could be done and in the end, she saved up and had to do IVF.  I assume if there was something cheaper or easier she would have done it.

 

Oh boy I hope my husband likes his future children, you know, even though they aren't his... nono02.gif

post #158 of 299
Well kparker, you pee on something? Come on!!


Cessy - if it really is premature menopause, they will not be able to make you give up an egg. But, at age 30, there are plenty of things that can make you not ovulate. For example, PCOS is easily treated.
post #159 of 299

There so much more to parenting and loving than having the baby's genes be from you.... But I know it is a process and everyone has to go through it in their own way and time.

 

This is also my understanding: If it is menopause, there is nothing that can be done to reverse it.

 

We have been very blessed, lately. Some really good financial stuff (small, but enough to feel more secure with that) and we just heard we don't need to go abroad until fall 2012. The pieces are coming together so perfectly. Once again I feel humbled and like it will all be ok in the end. Better than ok. Whether we have another biological child, ever, I just want to be faithful to my path in life. I am still hoping to adopt but feeling a little bit more at peace knowing that I will have to wait much longer than I would like.

 

My body has overcome a lot of stuff in the past years, mainly cause by hypothyroidism. If only I could get rid of the extra weight, I think my body just maybe could work well enough to conceive.... or not. Either way, I am so thankful to be having more or less a normal daily life. I think I will be able to celebrate dd's birthday with a joyful heart next month.

post #160 of 299
Oh, LTB, I am so happy you are having a positive experience/outlook. It really makes a world of difference. I think that releasing attachment to outcomes is so important, even though it's hard.

rcr, I am rooting for you, isn't the transfer happening today? My thoughts are with you.

kparker, have you peed on any sticks lately? wink1.gif if not, then get to it lol.gif Those tests sure looked promising fingersx.gif

Me? I have been taking the herbs and making some lifestyle changes as per my Ayurvedic practitioner, who is working with me as a whole, but we are focusing on a couple of things, my reproductive cycle being one. I have to say, that I am having TONS of ewcm, and I usually don't get it. I either get watery, or scant (I got pregnant on a scant cycle though, so obviously I was having some fertile cm, it just wasn't enough to come out. I am so not attached to ever being pregnant again, so I will just keep an eye on things. My Ayurvedic guy told me that obsessing (for me) is one of the worst things to cause stress and that throws me off balance. He suggested that I stop temping, and it was silly that I still was. I stopped and am just not worrying about BD during the right times (but tonight might be good anyways wink1.gif )

ETA, I usually O a few CDs away from now, so the ewcm is right on time. I am amazed at how much!
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