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Avoiding Teflon poisoning?

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I'm super sensitive to teflon/non-stick pans. And I keep pet birds, which non-stick pans are notorious for killing. So I don't allow non-stick stuff in my house. Most of our circle of friends, however, do use them. It's not usually a huge issue for me, but last night was terrible and I hope any of you have suggestions on how to avoid such a situation in the future. We visited our friends in their home last night, and being of a culture where feeding guests a ton of food is a requirement, our hostess began making snacks in her non-stick pans the second we arrived. When snacks were done, her MIL proceeded to prepare her own dinner, again using the non-stick pans for everything. The pans were being used for one thing or another almost the entire time we were there (just over 4 hours). The kitchen opened to the living room, where we all were sitting, with me closest to the kitchen. I began getting a terrible headache, but dismissed it. But I was feeling worse and worse as the evening went on. By the time we were on our way home, I was feeling absolutely horrible, raging headache, very weak and shaky, lightheaded, nauseous, muddled thinking. I finally realized it was teflon poisoning, much worse than I've ever had before. I don't usually say anything as we are going to friends places about such things, but after last night, I am kinda scared to go visiting where I may be exposed! I think if we were visiting these people again, I would have to request the hostess to not use non-stick while I'm there, my experience was severe and I don't want to ever feel like that again.

 

What would you say? If anything? How do you handle it when you know you may be risking exposure to something you're sensitive to when you visit friends? or especially, people who are acquaintances rather than close friends?

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For it to be an issue (and to kill birds) it has to be repeatedly OVER heated for an ongoing period of time.  It isn't something that happens once and the bird dies.  

 

If the pans are properly used, they shouldn't be "offgassing" excessively.  I will add, I am not a fan of Teflon myself but I honestly am not sure how I would deal with that.

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Originally Posted by scsigrl View Post

For it to be an issue (and to kill birds) it has to be repeatedly OVER heated for an ongoing period of time.  It isn't something that happens once and the bird dies.  

 

If the pans are properly used, they shouldn't be "offgassing" excessively.  I will add, I am not a fan of Teflon myself but I honestly am not sure how I would deal with that.

Actually, not trying to be snarky, but your reply is a good example of the attitude I face when trying to explain to someone that I become ill when exposed to teflon.  I'm not being a hypochondriac, and I know from previous exposure, even before last night, that I'm sensitive to it--even when used "properly".  But the mainstream belief in its safety makes me come off as some crazy person if I ask someone to not use it around me.

 

I'm not really looking for a debate on the safety/non-safety of it....I already know it makes me sick.  I am looking for sensible ways in which I can let others know when I visit their homes, such as my situation last night, to please not use it around me. 

 

If you are interested, there is a good summary by the Environmental Working Group on Teflon off-gassing, and their studies of the actual temperatures reached during normal stovetop heating.  And many examples of the sudden death of birds from exposure.

 

http://www.ewg.org/book/export/html/8296

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That's hard...some people don't even seem to believe that peanuts or nuts can kill someone. The awareness is just poor and that much more, I'm sure, for this type of situation. If the person is a close friend or family I would explain the whole thing. If it's not it's harder. Maybe say that you're sensitive to airborne allergens and you'd rather people not cook with you present? If you feel you need to explain specifically I'd preface it with "admitting" that this sounds really weird and it is uncommon but, unfortunately, true for you... type lead in maybe.
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I am not sure how you read what I said but I think what I said was that for birds to die it was overheating over a long time. I said nothing about you reacting to it. I also said I am not a fan of Teflon (meaning I understand the ramifications of its use) and that I wasn't sure what I would do.

 

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Eek! Your link has me resolving to get another cast iron pan so I can get rid of my last remaining (rarely used) nonstick one. I agree with sbgrace as to how to deal with it. If you admit it sounds a little weird but neverthless is true for you, it might sort of disarm people's objections.

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Maybe say that you're sensitive to airborne allergens and you'd rather people not cook with you present? If you feel you need to explain specifically I'd preface it with "admitting" that this sounds really weird and it is uncommon but, unfortunately, true for you... type lead in maybe.

Thanks, I think this is a brilliant way to mention it!  Wish I had more tact, but I'm awfully blunt and direct in saying things, and of course offend everyone by doing so... 

Thanks everyone for your thoughts and comments.

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