I'm pregnant with a FET baby too! It hurts like holy heck when dd latches on, so much so that I wince when I see her coming! But after a few moments the pain eases up. My breasts are so tender right now too! DD is 25 months, nearly. She still loves to nurse, and I'm still playing it by ear, so we'll see what happens.
Currently nursing Mommas. Do you plan on weaning? Powering through? Thoughts? Plans? - Page 3
Yay for nursing through a FET! I am so glad that I did. I know I would have regretted weaning no matter what the outcome of the FET was. Did you tell your RE you were still nursing? I didn't. He didn't ask and I didn't volunteer. I figured I had done enough of my own research and was comfortable with the "risks" that he didn't really need to be involved in the decision. Kind of feel as if I want to go back to him though at 10 weeks or something and let him know.
And I see you're in BC. Whereabouts? I grew up in Vancouver and most of my family still lives there.
I'm in Vancouver, and I did tell my RE that I was still nursing and he ordered me to wean immediately ... and this was back in November when we were preparing for a December FET that resulted in a BFN. I said, "Please test my prolactin levels, and if the numbers concern you, then we'll discuss it. If the numbers are acceptable, then I'll continue nursing DD as long as she wants." He was not impressed. But guess what? The prolactin levels were fine.
I am so disappointed in my ObGyn...I checked with her to see if I could take Zofran while still nursing dd, and she said, "well, the medicine should be fine, but you MUST wean IMMEDIATELY. Breastfeeding is NOT okay while pregnant." I asked her why and all she could say was "It is strictly counter-indicated." Moron.
So I told her I would wean tonight. Riiight....fat chance.
It is nice that this is my third baby and I finally have the confidence to realize that the doctors don't know everything (or in this case, ANYTHING). First time mommas, please do not take your doctor's word as gospel...they can be great, but they are not gods!
TeacherMomma~ That alone would make me find a new doc. Very ignorant comment and I'd worry about all the other stuff she is going to be wrong about.
D just turned 2 and shows no interest in weaning. I'm not sure how long I am going to be able to do it though. I'm already having some plugged duct issues that hurt like crazy and he isn't a gently nurser most of the time. Guess we'll see what happens.
TeacherMomma: I can't believe your doc was so uneducated about breastfeeding while pregnant! Moron indeed!
I talked to my Dr quite a bit about nursing while on clomid. We knew there was a risk of my milk drying up but she believed that to be a higher risk with newly lactating moms rather then someone like me who had been nursing DD for 2 years. It had no affect. She told me nursing while pregnant and tandem nursing is just fine... just let the baby nurse first when it comes time for that. I feel lucky to have her as a Dr because she accepts my crunchy ways no problem! She also told me she regrets weaning her son "so early". He was 20 months! So yeah, she gets it.
I'll see what DD, who is almost 22m does. If she weans, fine, but I am not going to force the issue. I can see the benefit of tandem nursing close-in-age siblings (basically to ease that jealousy and maintain that closeness and comfort for her during what is sure to be a stressful time). I never really imagined I'd be doing it (and this pregnancy was not planned, I never really imagined having kids this close in age) but hey.
I would love to have her night-weaned though! She's close. Except for this past week or so... I suspect that milk may be already going down some b/c she suddenly is asking to nurse a lot more. but she's also been sick, so maybe its that?
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Poor DS, our main way to get him to go back to sleep just isn't working! he nurses, then pops off and pushes my boob around and touches the nipple and starts crying, latches on again, repeat. It took a long time to get him to go back to sleep the last couple nights. Bedtime and nighttime is the only time he gets to nurse so I don't really want to nightwean, but if there isn't any (or much) milk, it seems like that would be more frustrating than the alternative.
My OB didn't ask, so I didn't mention it, that we still nurse. For anybody that does ask (and that is nearly everyone that knows we are still nursing) I just say it is mainly a supply issue; it isn't that the new baby will be harmed by it or anything, but pregnancy is sapping my supply, so that is the only real downside. Doesn't seem to be much you can do about it, Adventures in Tandem Nursing seems to say that most galactogogues don't work well in pregnant women.
I may need DH to take over night time duties for a few days , but that also means weaning DS. It just breaks my heart to see him so pitiful! that, and I need him to get back to sleep easier . . .
So, are you all trying to get your LOs to drink more from other beverages? Any tips? My DD (almost 22mo) just isn't into other things much. She has a little (open) cup of milk or water at meals, but its seriously a few oz. She just isn't that into her sippy cup, or her straw cup. She kind of likes brother's sport-top water bottle so maybe I'll let her use that a bit... We're really strapped for $$ right now and I don't want to go buying a bunch of things for someone who is almost 2 and who CAN drink from an open cup just fine. I have resorted to letting her drink juice, which I normally don't think it so great for her. Also some vanilla soymilk (a fairly low sugar kind).
We do EC and so I am pretty aware of her peeing (lol, since she's usually not in diapers), and really, she's going maybe 4x per day!?! She'll be dry sometimes from 4PM until she wakes the next morning... ugh. Its making sense now that I realized that I am preggo- she still nurses 4x+ per day but might not be getting much (I can hear her swallowing, so its something).
I guess I'll just keep offering frequent, if small, drinks... maybe its time to try smoothies again? I am also trying to just add a splash of juice to her water so it has more taste...
I had been kinda stalking this thread, sorry, until I was sure. Got two BFPs yesterday though so I'm going to go ahead & let myself post, lol. This is one of many things that has been on my mind about ttc #3. My first two girls are spaced really far apart, so dd1 had weaned (at 4 y.o.) before I was pg again. This time though I dunno. Dd2 turns 3 next week. I feel like because she is older, more independent (I work nowadays so she goes to a little preschool), I wouldn't mind if she stopped when/if my milks dries up.
But then of course we all got really sick this month. She hasn't really recovered from the flu. Has an ear infection and possible secondary thing like pneumonia. It's been really scary. And she's eating, like, nothing. So my big plan of cutting back around her big girl 3rd bday party is kind of fading.
TeacherMomma, I have to agree that your OB sounds a little "counter-indicated" in this department.
And emmaegbert, hi again, I would say you're on the right track with giving her more options to drink from there. My toddler loved the sports bottles too.
DS drinks OJ and water during the day, with the occasional bit of cow's milk too. As far as juice goes, I don't mind him having orange juice because of the vitamin C and it just seems to be a bit more than sugar water, which I think apple juice mostly is. We did have a few trial and error with sippy cups, now his favorites are the take and toss sort and these nuk ones with handles and a flip up straw.
Last night went pretty well, he did nurse before bed, but broke off hysterical, whether due to lack of milk, or change in taste, I couldn't say. He nursed again when he woke up at 4 a.m. without complaint, and when I brought him to bed with us, woke a few times upset but I didn't offer the breast and he was happy with just cuddles. It makes me sad, as I wanted weaning to be a happier time for him, but at least it is for a good reason!
DD has done well with drinking water from a straw cup and now an open cup, thank goodness. We had to introduce water early (about 10months) when I went back to work and she wouldn't take BM or formula or milk of any kind in any kind of cup or bottle. We were worried about her getting dehydrated on my long days at work so DH worked hard at getting her used to water the straw cup. He mainly turned it into a game. Making funny sounds at the end of a drink, taking turns drinking from the cup, giving some water to teddy and 'hop hop' (her bunny) to drink. that kind of thing. It worked.
I have a question about supplemental milks. We've never really pushed DD to drink any other milk recently, as I figure BM has been enough. She will take some coconut milk now in an open cup with dinner (about 1/3 cup). As my milk starts to dry up, should I be encouraging her to drink more of this? I just want her to be getting enough fat and calcium. Any thoughts? DD is 19 months now.
I'm glad to see this thread as well! My daughter is 2 years 4 months and still nursing. She has ALWAYS been a comfort nurser and used to be on my boobs fairly constantly through the day and night. It got to a point about a year ago where I had to forcefully cut it back for my own health/sanity. (And luckily, night weaning happened very naturally a few months later when she asked to sleep in her own bed in her room.) Nursing has been great since, for both of us. Now she nurses about four times a day, which have become fairly ritualized. I'd prefer not to tandem nurse, but I have no idea how this will end. I'm hoping it will happen on its own, very gently and naturally, well before the baby comes. There's no Plan B yet...
I'm also glad to see this thread!
I had supply issues with my son - delayed lactogenesis with a month of feed/pump/supplement/feed/pump/supplement - also 90mg domperidone a day once I was far enough postpartum - until my milk was sufficient, and even then it was never robust. DS took to solids like gangbusters and while he loves the boob like crazy, we've nightweaned and I quit pumping at work at 13 months - so he's really only getting a tiny quantity over 3 nursings a day now at 14.5 months.
I'm afraid of trying to tandem nurse when I barely had an adequate supply for one. I know, I know, more stimulation - but DUDE, I spent 2 out of every 3 hours around the clock hooked up to either the baby or a pump in those early weeks so I'm not sure more stimulation is really going to increase my supply that much. I don't think that this kid is going to wean himself even if my supply cuts down to literally nothing... but I hate to wean him so young when he loves it so much.
Anyone else have supply issues or been through this before with another kiddo?
Mamacolleen: are you avoiding cows milk? Since my DS (6yo) drinks cows milk, I offer it to DD and she does like it more lately. Its no BM but my understanding is nutritionally not all that dissimilar. He also drinks occasional soymilk and so she does from time to time. He and DH HATE coconut milk or store-bought hemp or almond milk, so I find I don't bother buying it. I do sometimes make nutmilk (mostly almond) and will do more pregnant as its a low-sugar but satisfying thing I can drink (assuming I develop GD again and can't drink any juice or cowmilk or sweetened milk substitutes) and I imagine the kids will want some.
We are just starting to make kefir, I am thinking of offering that to the kids to see if they like it. Maybe mixed with juice? DS also loves goat milk and maybe we'll get some and see if DD likes it as well. I have a small fridge, a small budget, and do all my shopping on foot so I am not excited about lugging home multiple types of "milk" for everyone in the family! Anyway... long winded way of saying, maybe try a few different things and then look at what she likes and supplement the nutrition in other ways?
DS hated all milk substitutes during his second year, but loved full-fat unhomogenized plain cows milk yogurt. So I used to give him that every day, with some flaxseed oil mixed in, since we were nursing less and less as that year went along. Trying to do the same with DD who now often asks for yogurt or cottage cheese.
I am just curious.... Many of your are saying that you have no desire to tandem nurse or don't plan on tandem nursing. What is it that turns you off about it? Is it the unkown? I am just wondering bcs I know it isn't for everyone but I absolutely love it and am really looking forward to it again (hoping I get the chance). There are things about it that were a little annoying (ds1 not eating anything solid and getting breast milk poop and constantly nursing BUT out of all of my kids that have tandemed he is the only one that has done that). The bennefits for me so outweighed any of the challenges. The bonding between the 2 nurslings and then between me was so strong and awesome even while the baby was in utero. No problems with engorgement in the beginning bcs the toddler takes care of that. The health bennefits to the toddler so they are less likely to get sick and get the baby sick.... The list goes on. I highly recommend Adventures in tandem nursing, it is a great book.
I am not trying to judge but just wondering why many of you are choosing not to do it. It almost sounds to me like the mom that has never nursed that would say oh I will never nurse my baby when they are THAT old. Sometimes that mom ends up nursing a toddler and sometimes not but they pass judgement before they try it. So I am just curious what it is about tandem nursing that seems so unmanageable?
theboysmama - good question. I think I am going to borrow that book from my La Leche group - I've seen it crop up a few times now so it must be a good read! I am not totally against the idea of tandem nursing but at the same time ds will be 3 when this lo comes along & in a lot of ways I think he will be old enough to wean. I've never liked the idea of forcing the weaning & was relieved when I got my bfp as I was actually in the process of weaning so that we could take the next step with fertility treatments & the new drug we were introducing was not compatible with bfing. I guess for me I'm not completely decided either way. If ds weans naturally while I'm pregnant I won't be overly sad about it & if he's still bfing when the baby comes along then I guess we'll tandem. Nursing a child this old is uncharted territory in my group of people irl so I have nothing to compare it to.
I am planning to take it one day at a time. I have read most of Mothering Your Nursing Toddler. I agree with her philosophy, but I try very hard not to let myself get hung up on a particular way of doing things. I find that if I expect myself and DS to conform to a mold (whatever that mold is) I am just asking for trouble!
That being said, though, I think tandem nursing would really benefit us. DS seems so young still (He'll be 1 on Sunday) and I just can't bear the idea of weaning him. We recently night-weaned him--I just started sending DH to him. Most nights he drifts off to sleep easily when his binky is replaced. It was the right decision for us, as DS began taking a renewed interest in nursing during the day. More than ever I just don't feel like he's ready.
Again..it's a day by day thing for us. I'm not opposed either way.