It was suggested I start a new thread so here goes:
There are bills in both Canada and the United States that have come up in the past couple years that would give grandparents the right to ask a judge for visitation with the grandchildren even against the wishes of the parents. There is one bill in Canada, bill #22. Please fight these bills if they come up in your country or state. There is a law in a few states, including Alabama, that gives grandparents the right to ask for visitation if the parents have lost parental rights. It has yet to come up in a court but laws like this have the potential to not only progress to 'right' for grandparents of all children and the grandparents of a child who is adopted to intrude in the lives of the adoptive parents and obtain visitation.
I am very concerned about this for many reasons. I think it would be terrible for a grandparent to be given visitation against the parent's wishes. Parents are in charge of their children, not grandparents. The people who support bills like this often state that 'in this age of single parenting, addictions, job loss, etc. children need their grandparents' and 'children have no say in if they get to see their grandparents'. I know there are many children with wonderful grandparents their parents keep the children away from while the parents are single, unemployed addicts. There are also many, many children (like mine) in stable, two parent homes with steady family incomes where the grandparents have addictions. I know if there was a law like this a grandparent in my family would run right out and ask a judge for visitation since I don't allow my children alone with them and they have always been mad about it. A judge would likely grant them visitation if the law made it possible since they would look good on paper.