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post #1 of 13
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My eldest DS is 8 (nearly 9) and has, for a long time, seemed to need more friends who are also gifted, who would understand and appreciate him more. The other night, we were with a group of friends, including long-time friends where the kids have known each other their whole lives. DS would call one of these kids his best friend, I think, outside of his brothers. But, the girl has made it a habit to not play with him. He was in tears, curled up on the couch at someone else's house, because he was feeling so ignored and lonely. greensad.gif

Truth be told, he *was* playing with them - but they never wanted to do what he wanted to do. In particular, he had some sketches he had done of an invention, and he wanted to show the other kids, specifically the girl who's always been his friend. But, they weren't interested.

I spent a long time talking with him about social behavior and how, in a group, his friends aren't as likely to want to listen to anything that takes a while to explain. They want to play games and do group things, instead. But, in a smaller, more intimate setting, they could listen better. We also went over how, even as adults, we have to adapt our discussion topics for the audience we're with.

It's just so sad, though, to have him in tears, lamenting that no one thinks like he does, or understands how he thinks, or values what he thinks about. greensad.gif

I am hoping to help him navigate the difficult waters of social interaction at this early age, to perhaps save some heartache later. I'm also realizing I really need to make an effort to seek out time with the gifted, creative, sweet, fun friends that we DO know. He and I talked about some of the friends that do like to think about the things he does, so at least he knows that some people like him and appreciate him for who he is. I can't help but feel the heartbreak over this one friend isn't over, though. They are getting more and more different the older they get, for some simple reasons like boy/girl, public school/homeschool, etc., but underlying personality is also coming in to play.

Indeed, I think DS is realizing more and more how *different* he is, and that can be so hard to deal with. greensad.gif
post #2 of 13

Yes, it isn't easy being green hug2.gif.

 

This is a hard thing.  I think it's about having opportunities to connect with other with similar interests, and also about learning that we have to adjust our expectations to the give and take of friendship. 

post #3 of 13
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Yes, exactly. There are important social skills to learn, but I'm also (again) realizing how important it is to find kids with similar interests for him. It's also something that makes me very glad for siblings. While they squabble regularly, they are also the very most receptive to each other and all of their wild, creative ideas. love.gif
post #4 of 13

For us, finding other gifted kids has not been enough. Both are in gifted programs in their school but it's still been a social wasteland for the most part. We've had much better luck with interest based activities. For my own kids, they've found theatre to be home away from home where they are a perfect fit. Yes, there are lots of gifted kids involved but there are also many who aren't gifted but share a passion and commitment as well as a the understanding that they don't really belong anywhere else.

 

Certainly try to connect with other gifted children but also consider interest-based activities. We know all sorts of quirky kids who find their niche and most valuable social connections in the model railroad club, theatre, dance, go-kart racing, ect.

 

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We've had much better luck with interest based activities. For my own kids, they've found theatre to be home away from home where they are a perfect fit. Yes, there are lots of gifted kids involved but there are also many who aren't gifted but share a passion and commitment as well as a the understanding that they don't really belong anywhere else.




 



We haven't had access to a gifted program, but our experience with interest-based activities has been similar. In our case it has been mostly classical music. Also, on occasion, martial arts and computer programming. Plenty of gifted kids, and also some non-gifted ones, but with interests and passions as common ground. My newly 8-year-old's friends have all been orchestra/violin or aikido friends.

Miranda
post #6 of 13
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Thank you for the theatre suggestion! I have been looking into acting classes at a local theatre company for my DS, but we'd missed the latest deadline so I wasn't sure what we'd do. I mentioned it to DH tonight after seeing your post and he agrees that would be a perfect thing for DS. I checked again and the next session of classes begins the week after his birthday! joy.gif I'm so tickled that we now have a perfect gift for him!

We're going to look for other interest-based activities, too, I think. I hope the theatre classes are as good as they seem that they'll be for him, though! thumb.gif
post #7 of 13

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it's so hard when they care so much about one particular child and the child just doesn't care about them, isn't it? Almost like a devastated lovesick teenager.

 

I would also point out to him that they are at an age when girls and boys just want to stop playing together - which is true, even if it may not be true, or only partly so, in that particular case. but it may help him feel it's not all about him.

 

It's nice to read that having siblings helps. I have been feeling so down lately with thinking that I should stop producing kids who struggle so hard in this world - having had a bit of a pity party in fact. (I suppose you can also call it depression). Puts things into perspective, for sure!

post #8 of 13

We've also found wonderful friends through the arts....there is something about kids who are into the creative aspect (for us it's dance/theater) that meshes really well with my kiddo.  Also, the skills and stamina required have given a place for all of that intensity to be focused, and to be seen in a positive light.  We did this on a whim, but it has truly been wonderful.  My ds treasures the relationships he's found with the kids who are arts focused.  And, when they do a large production, there's lots of opportunity for bonding around a shared experience, which is a fantastic opportunity.

 

Also-are sports an option for meeting other kids?  I don't know if your ds is sports oriented at all?

 

My ds has recently found a "soulmate" in another, extremely bright, boy a grade ahead of him.  To say they click is an understatement.  I think that this year is the first time I really feel that ds has friends who "get" him, although he does have plenty of other friends.  It just wasn't the same prior to this year.  I attribute it to being able to get out there with different activities and having a broader group if kids to interact with.

post #9 of 13
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Tigerle, yes, it's a lot like that! This particular friend is one he's been close to over the years, whom he told me (more than once) that he'd like to marry someday because "she's my [best] friend," and all of that since about 3 years of age. I've tried to be realistic about the fact that, more than likely, they'd each find someone else to marry eventually, but that, of course, he was right that the person you marry should be your best friend. Given the history, even though no one would really think they were destined to be soulmates at this point in time, I think it's particularly hard. And he just doesn't have many friends, period. He still gets super excited about the possibility of seeing THIS friend, and it's so sad that she doesn't feel the same way. greensad.gif

Sports have been sort of hit and miss for us. He has loved baseball and played Little League for several seasons. The last season he played was last Spring, and he performed pretty dismally for reasons no one could quite figure (while performance is obviously not the point, he'd been a very promising player for quite a while, then it all seemed to fall apart and we could never make sense of it). This fall, we were expecting our new baby, so we didn't enroll, nor did we do so this Spring... He's wanted to play, but baseball is a huge commitment and we just haven't felt up to it. That being said, he never really made friends in baseball, either. Of course, maybe that's our fault for not encouraging it more? There have been families we've known through several seasons of being on the same teams, but it never goes beyond the field.

I was talking to a dad of homeschooled kids who are in our area (a family we have a good bit in common with, but don't know well), and he invited my DS to join them for "parkour" training/class once a week. I was not familiar with it but it looks interesting. I showed my boys some videos and they were intrigued (though the latest book DS had gotten from the library had far more of his attention!). I'm not sure if DS would want to do it, or not, but I think I may send DH and DS to check it out. Getting to know this other family better would be good for all of us, I think, as the dad and my DH have very similar interests/professions/hobbies and the mom and I have similar interests, as well. Of course, when I tried to introduce DS to their kids last week, he was immensely shy and wouldn't talk. eyesroll.gif

And I really do need to get him together with more of the highly creative kids we know. Of course, it's probably best NOT do that at the library, as happened Monday. DS found the second "Mysterious Benedict Society" book and had to be pried from it to go play with the friend he had been so eager to see. lol.gif (He picked up the book sometime after noon and finished it that night. He did not want to put it down to open Valentines or anything! eyesroll.giflol.gif)
post #10 of 13
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Truth be told, he *was* playing with them - but they never wanted to do what he wanted to do. In particular, he had some sketches he had done of an invention, and he wanted to show the other kids, specifically the girl who's always been his friend. But, they weren't interested.

I spent a long time talking with him about social behavior and how, in a group, his friends aren't as likely to want to listen to anything that takes a while to explain. They want to play games and do group things, instead. 


I think you handled this well. I don't know that this is an IQ thing, but a social skills thing. Lecturing people on your interest isn't a good social skill -- no matter how bright you are. Even super bright people when they get together tend to laugh and joke around and enjoy each other's company. Some one who lectures is considered a "bore."

 

Finding other kids who share his interests is a great idea, but even they are going to want him be the center of attention.

We were at a dinner party Saturday of my DH's colleagues and spouses. It was all aerospace executives and the people they choose to spend their lives with -- overall,  a very bright group. No one lectured on their special interest -- they jokes around, talked about vacation plans, asked each other questions.

 

post #11 of 13
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Yes, there is definitely a social skills component. Though, to be fair to DS, he is not one to "lecture." He, like most kids, wants to share things he's excited about, but I've seen a good number of children who fall into the "lecturer" category, and that's not him. Unfortunately, his interests (a submarine drawing he'd done, at that point) are not the same as many other kids. If he'd been wanting to show off something more NT or at least typical for that social group/age (like, "I got a new iPod!" or "I saw XYZ movie/show/concert"), I think it would've been better received.
post #12 of 13

Most of the "very gifted" kids I know have poor peer relations. Their extra brains make them a poor fit for the silly games of their peers.

 

Sorry, this is one of the big downsides of being gifted. My dd doesn't mind. She's an introvert any day of week regardless. My ds though, loves to be social and I catch him "dumbing down" sometimes to get along with his peers.  eyesroll.gif

post #13 of 13

aah mama i hear you. i see two of them. dd and her bf. 

 

her bf is like your son. he loves sharing. but dd isnt interested. so he has to play her way. however he discovered another similar child and they get along so well. however dd and he are still good buddies and play together every week. but at school he plays with his other friend.

 

in dd's case adult friends have been a lifesaver. its hard being gifted AND different. she rarely fits in with most kids. she is extremely social so she has no problem making friends.

 

however true friends she has a hard time with. she expects things out of her friend that is expected when they are older. so even though she has friends she only has 3 bf. 

 

not sure what she has in common with all her bfs. they are so different with different interests. yet at some place for a bit they meet happily together.

 

6 was the age dd suffered around friends. she was sad why they couldnt be the way she wanted them to be. she was asking too much (mamas here helped me see that). 

 

which is why older friends - from 15 to 55 - both male and female have always been dd's helper right from childhood. she is a philosophical child - more into the morality of things rather than what the thing is by itself. at 4 she was debating death penalty after watching ninja turtles. 

 

it has been v. helpful to her (i think) to just sit and talk to her (myself and our friends) to make her feel its ok to be herself - even if it means life is not the way you would like it to be. 

 

as dd grows older she is more 'accepting' of the world around her. so while she cried over friends at 6, by 7 she still cried - but differently. she was no longer upset about friends. she would rather have it on her terms rather than trying to meet others terms. but she cried why life couldnt go her way sometimes. 

 

in 3rd grade for the first time in school she made a v. v. good friend. after 5 months their friendship is showing some cracks. and its because her new friend sometimes just does not get dd. 

 

similar hobbies, sports have not really gotten dd the kind of people she would like to hang out. i think she wont get it really till college. 

 

for instance when gardening is beyond just growing your own food but the global issue of industrial farming, etc (she volunteers with me at our local farm) she loses her friends. however it is that very thing that connects her and her adult friends. i recall one friend of mine bringing dd back when dd was 4 and telling me what a grand time she had talking about dd being a vegetarian. 

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