I think my 2 YO's getting a cavity

[caedmyn]

:(  He has a big white spot on the front of one of his bottom teeth and I googled and it looks like it's a sign that a cavity is forming.  Why doesn't TF HELP my family?  It's a heck of a lot of work when you don't see any benefit.  My kids get sick at least as often as everyone else's, they have a ton of food intolerances, and now cavities.  Yeah, theoretically they might be worse off if they ate the SAD, but that's only theory.  Sometime I wish I'd never heard of TF...at least then I wouldn't expect my kids to be healthy.  Excuse my crabbiness today...5-6 hrs of broken sleep a night is not cutting it around here.

Anyhow, any suggestions on ways to attempt to remineralize?  We eat maybe half pastured meats, no dairy, no eggs.  They take vitamin A from fish oil and liquid vitamin D (don't tolerate CLO) and get a vitamin K2 supplement about 3 times a week as well.  And take a multi-mineral from NOW foods.

[TonyaW]

I have some ideas about your thoughts, because I have had the same thoughts.

My son has a spot that looked like a cavity forming. It has been checked out multiple times, and it isn't a cavity. I have seen on this forum before a mention of butter oil being helpful to re-mineralize the teeth, but if the kiddos are intolerant to dairy, that doesn't help much. I think getting more mineral rich foods would be helpful.

I was frustrated about my son having food in tolerances and getting sick too. One thing I recently learned in a class I am taking for a nutrition consultant program is that GMO foods have the possibility of causing more food allergies. Any soy, corn, or wheat has the possibility of being GMO regardless of whether they are organic.

In an ideal world, our children wouldn't get very sick, very often. However they are exposed to environmental toxins constantly which are beyond our control. I am sure this causes some allergies and illnesses. I notice my son does get sick fairly often this winter after going to Preschool, but he gets over the illness quickly compared to other children I know. I think eating the way we do helps our children to detox much better than the average child who is eating HFCS, sugar laden foods, injected toxins and toxins from so many foods and other daily things like toothpaste, soap and so on.

One way that I have found TF to be beneficial is that my body rejects junk food now. If I deviate too much from my healthy diet I feel awful or get sick. So I think there is some benefit, it is just hard to see it clearly. There is so much healing to be done from all the previous years of SAD dieting. It is bound to affect our children. Getting sick exercises the immune system to our benefit as a children if we let the immune system work to do its job natually and not give a bunch of medications and antibitocs. I think getting certain illnesses as a child theoretically decreases allergies and intolerance as they get older and also creates a stronger healthier immune system as they get older too.

[tanyalynn]

caedmyn  

You've worked darn hard on your health and your kids' health... It would be so frustrating to work hard (and probably save your kids from a lot of difficulty and sadness along the way) but still not get better-than-average results.  Some people start out with so many more challenges than average. 

Have you considered cell salts?  There's a thread in H&H about them, if you think they'd tolerate the lactose-based ones, those are fairly affordable and I've seen great things in my kids--we've been able to reduce supplements noticeably and stuff like DD (she's 7 now) having achy teeth as her 6-year molars and other adult teeth are coming in have disappeared with the cell salts.  But there are also sucrose-based ones that Panserbjorne can get for you, they cost more but probably still cheaper than dentist visits.  There's a shorter discussion that's just for dental stuff one one of the last few pages of the Curing Cavities sticky in Dental, I think it should list the various salts that are helpful.

[caedmyn]

My kids' illnesses seem to last a long time, unfortunately...no quicker healing here.  DS1 gets sick every month except one or two during the summer, and it seems like each illness lasts 2 weeks.  Except he didn't get chicken pox this summer when DD got it, go figure...the one thing I WANTED him to catch!  And he really doesn't have much exposure to other young kids besides his siblings...mostly just church on Sundays and maybe a play date every couple of weeks.

They would tolerate butter oil I'm sure, they eat gobs of butter and are fine with that.  It is so expensive though and I don't see DH going for it, especially given the lack of results in the past from attempting to heal various things through supplements and diet changes.  I'll look into the cell salts, that might be something I could do.

I did eat a pretty horrible diet pre-TF and I suppose it does have to come out somewhere.  Just seems a little unfair that others who eat equally horribly and continue to do so (and feed their children the same) should have as good or better health, KWIM?

[Koalamom]

My dd got cavities and I was eating soooo TF. It wasn't until I gave her cell salts that they healed. We are now on a GF, DF, and mostly grain free diet. Things are now looking good. And I got cavities all the time and I had my vitamin D tested and it was very very low. And according to the Vit D council, that is a big player in teeth health and healing cavities.

[SuburbanHippie]

I know there is a monsterous thread somewhere in H&H about cell salts, but could someone give me a link to the specific cell salts you use for cavities please.  We are having horrible issues with YDS and his teeth.  He's 3.5 years old and is already scheduled for 2 stainless steel caps.  :(

[Koalamom]

Well there isn't a specific thread for cavities and what salts to use, but what is recommended is calc flour, calc phos, silica, and bioplasma. I give my kids the hylands brand with numbers on the bottles. Also I suggest vit D and perhaps look into how your LO's digestion is. You could be on the most TF diet but if the digestion is off and you aren't absorbing nutrients, then what good is that.

[SuburbanHippie]

Thanks for listing those.  Our local health food store carries Hyland's cell salts so I'll have to head in there this week.  I know we're good on Vit D though.  He takes 2,000 IUs daily.  I wonder about his digestion.  He eats a lot of fiber (mainly apples) and it tends to push things through rather quickly.

[Koalamom]

Well when I say digestion, I mean absorption. Like gluten can mess with things, and the gut can get damaged and then there is no or little absorption.

[scavanaugh]

Have you seen this thread? http://www.mothering.com/community/forum/thread/399989/curing-cavities-with-nutrition