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post #201 of 293

Greetings in Christ!

 

 

I agree with this post! Very TRUE!!!

I would rather be around traditional Catholics!thumb.gif

Thank you for your help!

Blessings & Peace!

 

Countryangels!

 

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Originally Posted by moonshoes View Post

I'm very crunchy and very traditional. the crunch came first, and then my spiritual journey took me to where I am now. I would say that I find the traditional community to be much more accepting of my crunchiness than the non-Catholic crunchy community is of my Catholic-ness. I'd rather be around traditional Catholics who eat at McDonalds than crunchies who can't accept my religious beliefs.



 

post #202 of 293

Thanks heatheresc and countryangels.

post #203 of 293

Hi mamas, 

 

Just wanted to check in and see how everyone is doing. Lots going on here, I've lost a few friends lately because of my pro-life work I am doing....but God is so good to me He keeps bringing wonderful people into my life to support me...

 

 

post #204 of 293
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Originally Posted by Arduinna View Post

But SSPV are sedevacanctist, IE schismatic and don't recognize the Pope. Unlike the SSPX. 



I don't mean to be argumentative, but there is still more murkiness in the relationship of the SSPX to Rome than I am comfortable with.  They've got some pretty messy history, and although the excommunication of the SSPX bishops has been lifted, there are still some things that need to be worked out, and there's some uncertainty as to their standing with the Church.  There are no questions that the FSSP is in line with Rome, so if I were to join one of the TLM groups, that would be the only one I would be comfortable with.

post #205 of 293


Hi Moonshoesflowersforyou.gif

 

 

I am so sorry you have lost some friends! Especially due to your Pro-Life work! :(  That is sad. But, like my mom would say, then they probably were not your true friends to begin with.

Also remember what is in the Bible, "brother will be against brother, daughter against mother, son against father, etc." Its probably not what you want to hear, but in a way, we are being persecuted for our faith, for our values, for standing for what is right! It might not be persecution as in the time of Saint Paul, or as it happens in the Middle East today.

Offer this cross to our Lord! A lot of people I know have had similar situations but within their own families! A true sad situation! How to explain that one to children?!

But, God is always GOOD!

 

So, hang in there, do not give up the fight, especially for the unborn! Pray a lot! Read the Bible as much as you can & try to spend time with our Lord.

Pray for those "friends" so they may see the light one day!

I have had problems with my power/internet for a couple of days, I guess the heat!????

I will send you a private message soon! Thank you for everything!

 

I will be your friend!flower.gif

God Bless you & yours!

Do not let this get you down!

Take care!

In the Hearts of Jesus & Mary!  hug2.gif

 

 

Peace to all in this thread!

Countryangels

 


 

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Originally Posted by moonshoes View Post

Hi mamas, 

 

Just wanted to check in and see how everyone is doing. Lots going on here, I've lost a few friends lately because of my pro-life work I am doing....but God is so good to me He keeps bringing wonderful people into my life to support me...

 

 



 


Edited by countryangels - 7/25/11 at 10:43pm
post #206 of 293

Countryangels, in response to your question about Latin Mass communities, there is one in my area. I haven't been able to attend Mass there yet, but it is based in the chapel of the diocesan cathedral, and they have two Masses every Sunday, high and low, plus another Mass every day of the week!

 

http://www.hbglatinmass.com/index.html

 

I wouldn't call central Pennsylvania "crunchy" but there is great access to fresh vegetables, meat, and dairy from local organic farms...

post #207 of 293
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Originally Posted by countryangels View Post


Hi Moonshoesflowersforyou.gif

 

 

I am so sorry you have lost some friends! Especially due to your Pro-Life work! :(  That is sad. But, like my mom would say, then they probably were not your true friends to begin with.

Also remember what is in the Bible, "brother will be against brother, daughter against mother, son against father, etc." Its probably not what you want to hear, but in a way, we are being persecuted for our faith, for our values, for standing for what is right! It might not be persecution as in the time of Saint Paul, or as it happens in the Middle East today.

Offer this cross to our Lord! A lot of people I know have had similar situations but within their own families! A true sad situation! How to explain that one to children?!

But, God is always GOOD!

 

So, hang in there, do not give up the fight, especially for the unborn! Pray a lot! Read the Bible as much as you can & try to spend time with our Lord.

Pray for those "friends" so they may see the light one day!

I have had problems with my power/internet for a couple of days, I guess the heat!????

I will send you a private message soon! Thank you for everything!

 

I will be your friend!flower.gif

God Bless you & yours!

Do not let this get you down!

Take care!

In the Hearts of Jesus & Mary!  hug2.gif

 

 

Peace to all in this thread!

Countryangels

 


 



 



That is exactly what I needed to hear. Thank you!luxlove.gif

 

post #208 of 293

Just wanted to check in with you ladies.  We are awaiting the birth of our twins, any day, and grateful to have made it 38 weeks with them, so far!  If any of you think of it, prayers for peace in these final days or weeks, and for a smooth birth - particularly a quick descent and birth for our daughter, the second twin - and minimum separation from the babies, would be greatly appreciated.

 

I continue to be very grateful to have converted, and to be able to join in receiving communion and taking part in the mass as an actual member of the church, as with others of you.

 

My church offers TLM daily, multiple masses (high and low Latin masses, and Novus Ordo in Latin and English) on Sundays, and TLM for all major holidays and holy days of obligation.  http://www.cantius.org/  There's also an Institute of Christ the King somewhere around, one or two SSPX churches, and maybe more.   Chicago isn't cheap, but certainly in our church there are very serious traditional Catholics & homeschoolers, and in the city at large, though it tends to be quite liberal, some crunchy qualities and resources certainly exist.  Midwifery is mainly, but not exclusively, practiced in hospitals, to the best of my understanding.  

 

P&L, I hope you are doing well, and God's plan for you and the baby is unfolding perfectly... the right parents coming to light, and all needs being met.

post #209 of 293
Thread Starter 

The father is fighting me on the adoption issue.  He would rather go through custody or adopt the child himself.

 

*sigh* Time to pray even more.

post #210 of 293

P&L, you've got a lot of prayers coming your way.  God has a plan for this child.

post #211 of 293
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Originally Posted by PatienceAndLove View Post

The father is fighting me on the adoption issue.  He would rather go through custody or adopt the child himself.

 

*sigh* Time to pray even more.



Please help me understand why you would not want him to have custody of his own child?

As the biological father, he would not have to adopt the child.

 

post #212 of 293
Thread Starter 

I think a child should be raised by a mother and a father, and that the child would thrive best in a good solid Catholic family that includes a mother and a father.

post #213 of 293

Sympathies.... I assume that means that, despite his interest in the baby, (marrying and) raising the little one together would not work out.  I hope all goes well for you, and what is best for all of you will come to pass.... but... to some degree, his desire to know and raise his own child sounds like a positive thing.  (At least compared to the many fathers who want nothing to do with their offspring.)

 

Not related.... my husband and I are both recent converts.  As I said, we're waiting on the birth of our first babies - twins - anytime in these coming weeks.  (They're due - 40 weeks - on August 16th.)  We want to have the baptism/christening as soon as possible, and hold a small party to celebrate, but neither of us has ever attended one.  Obviously, the priests we've talked to will handle the sacramental end.  And I think I have found a christening gown and christening outfit that will be suitable, without breaking our budget (which is slim).  We have a good, faithful Catholic godmother chosen for each twin.  But can you help me with anything else I may have overlooked, or might want to think about in planning?  If the baptism is done after our usual 12:30 mass, then - partly for budgetary reasons, partly so it can be held soon, even if I am not fully recovered - we thought we would perhaps just have friends (and family who can make it) come back to our home for something on the order of tea and coffee, petit fours, meringues, etc.  As far as I understand, white, light, and sweet foods are traditional.  And we can't really afford to feed everyone a proper meal, or prepare one, right now.  Perhaps I could add some more sustaining things - nuts, cheese, fruit?  (Obviously, we will either not have eaten, or not done so in some hours, before returning home.  Some of the friends who join us may be here just for the party, while others will come to church, as well.)  I thought we'd decorate simply with some white flowers and candles?  Perhaps something dove-like in decoration, to symbolize the Holy Spirit?  Does this sound right/alright?

 

Any input, help, experience, or knowledge are welcome.  Thank you!

post #214 of 293
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Originally Posted by PatienceAndLove View Post

I think a child should be raised by a mother and a father, and that the child would thrive best in a good solid Catholic family that includes a mother and a father.


Gosh, I really want to respond to you w/out coming off as insensitive. So even if my words look insensitive, please know that I'm not trying to be. First off, I agree with your statement completely. Second, I'm assuming that your DD is being raised by you, a single mother? Third, this baby is this man's baby, too. I don't think you're going to be able to put the baby up for adoption without his consent. Why not allow him custody of the child and keep frequent contact so that the baby has a good Catholic influence (and a mother's influence) in his/her life? Perhaps you will meet a good Catholic man in the future and you could maybe even revisit the custody arrangement at that point. I know you're trying to do what's best for this baby, but unless this guy is a total menace, fighting tooth and nail to wrench his child away from him may not be what's best.

Prayers for you.
post #215 of 293
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Originally Posted by Imprint View Post

 

Not related.... my husband and I are both recent converts.  As I said, we're waiting on the birth of our first babies - twins - anytime in these coming weeks.  (They're due - 40 weeks - on August 16th.)  We want to have the baptism/christening as soon as possible, and hold a small party to celebrate, but neither of us has ever attended one.  Obviously, the priests we've talked to will handle the sacramental end.  And I think I have found a christening gown and christening outfit that will be suitable, without breaking our budget (which is slim).  We have a good, faithful Catholic godmother chosen for each twin.  But can you help me with anything else I may have overlooked, or might want to think about in planning?  If the baptism is done after our usual 12:30 mass, then - partly for budgetary reasons, partly so it can be held soon, even if I am not fully recovered - we thought we would perhaps just have friends (and family who can make it) come back to our home for something on the order of tea and coffee, petit fours, meringues, etc.  As far as I understand, white, light, and sweet foods are traditional.  And we can't really afford to feed everyone a proper meal, or prepare one, right now.  Perhaps I could add some more sustaining things - nuts, cheese, fruit?  (Obviously, we will either not have eaten, or not done so in some hours, before returning home.  Some of the friends who join us may be here just for the party, while others will come to church, as well.)  I thought we'd decorate simply with some white flowers and candles?  Perhaps something dove-like in decoration, to symbolize the Holy Spirit?  Does this sound right/alright?

 

Any input, help, experience, or knowledge are welcome.  Thank you!


Congratulations!  Actually - you (meaning you/DH/the babies), and Our Father, will handle the sacramental part.  The priests are there to provide the celebration of the Sacrament - or, in other words, the ritual.

 

If your budget is tight, why not make it easy on yourself, and just invite people for a nice cake and coffee/tea afterward?  Petits fours & merignues are a pain to make, and expensive to buy.  I wouldn't worry about providing sustenance foods - if you specify cake, those attending will understand that they should have a meal before or after.
 

 



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Originally Posted by lavatea View Post



Gosh, I really want to respond to you w/out coming off as insensitive. So even if my words look insensitive, please know that I'm not trying to be. First off, I agree with your statement completely. Second, I'm assuming that your DD is being raised by you, a single mother? Third, this baby is this man's baby, too. I don't think you're going to be able to put the baby up for adoption without his consent. Why not allow him custody of the child and keep frequent contact so that the baby has a good Catholic influence (and a mother's influence) in his/her life? Perhaps you will meet a good Catholic man in the future and you could maybe even revisit the custody arrangement at that point. I know you're trying to do what's best for this baby, but unless this guy is a total menace, fighting tooth and nail to wrench his child away from him may not be what's best.

Prayers for you.



I wanted to post something along these lines, but I too was concerned about P&L finding me insensitive and/or argumentative.  While I do agree with the sentiment of your statement, I suggest that you pray about the possibility of the father raising this child.  I know that you are not a single mother by choice, P&L - but I think that it is admirable that this man WANTS to raise his child - and this does give you a much greater opportunity to be part of the child's life.

 

post #216 of 293

I believe that neither parent has the right to take a child away from the other parent, unless there is a direct risk of physical or emotional harm. The baby is as much his as it is hers. While a two parent family is the ideal, I firmly believe that one parent is more than capable of raising a child by themselves and doing an excellent job. And if this man wants to raise his child, as is his right, then why put it up for adoption? 

post #217 of 293

Whoa, give the lady a break. P&L never said that she was trying to take her baby away from his/her father. She said that she felt that allowing the child to be raised in a Catholic home with a mother and a father would be better than the situation that either she or the father could provide, that the father disagrees, and that she needs to pray about it.  There are more than two options available (allow him custody vs. give the baby up for adoption).  If giving the baby up for adoption to a strong Catholic couple is not going to be an option, she has to reevaluate her role in raising this baby or not as well.  She has to consider allowing him full custody, joint custody (and what that might look like), co-parenting, relationships (present and future), religion of the child (especially if the father is not Catholic), what kind of father this man would be, etc.  It's not a done deal just because he wants the baby.  Please join me in praying for P&L as she discerns.


Edited by JMJ - 8/7/11 at 3:34pm
post #218 of 293

Praying for you, P & L

post #219 of 293


Hi CherryBomb,

 

 

Thank you for your nice post!:)

The Suzuki Violin teacher seems to be a Plus to your area!!She seems reasonable as well.

I was under the impression that places like Indiana, Illinois, Michigan & Wisconsin had a strong Catholic community.

It seems so hard to be able to find a strong Catholic community with a regular TLM/EF. And to have access to homeschooling groups, preferably

a Catholic one, access to organic food & farmers markets, a traditional type of living all around, etc.

 

Anyway, thank you so much for your post! I really appreciate your help!

 

Thank you to all of the wonderful posts as well!

Peace & Blessings to all reading & posting here!

You have been very helpful!

Thank you!

 

Praying for you P & L!

 

 
 

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Originally Posted by CherryBomb View Post


Hi CA-

 

My daughter takes Suzuki style lessons from a woman named Allison Edberg, who's lead violinst for the Indianapolis Baroque Orchestra.  She takes lessons once a week (usually, Allison travels to perform so sometimes she goes a couple weeks between lessons).  The kids she teaches are Lafayette String School and they do have opportunities to play with other children occasionally.  It's $20 a lesson and I'm very happy with it, I just wish dd would be better about practicing every day.

 

I actually live about 45 minutes from Lafayette, but over there there's a pretty strong Catholic community.  TLM is offered once a month, but attendance is pretty weak.  My area is generally very safe, Lafayette has had a large influx of unemployed people from Chicago in recent years and the crime rate has gone up pretty dramatically.  I wouldn't necessarily call it unsafe, but there are areas I avoid.  Unemployment numbers are okay.

 

 



 



 

post #220 of 293

Hello everyone.

 

Just popping in with prayers and good wishes. Now that summer is (nearly) over, things are picking up at our campus center, so I'm feeling re-energized about my faith and the coming changes to the liturgy (NO, of course.)

 

DD is nearly 5, and has recently begun asking to be kissed on the lips. I really don't know how to handle this and it's making me very uncomfortable. (My own history, of course, plays into it.) I've told her that kissing on the lips is for mamas and daddies, and I love to kiss her cheeks, her forehead, hold her tight, etc. We are, in fact, a very affectionate family!

 

I'm assuming this is just an interest in being grown up and doing things that grown ups do, but I'd appreciate some advice to continue to show her physical affection and build positive associations with that, without creeping me out or giving her my own baggage. I know the time will come (and perhaps already has?) when the "for mamas and daddies" explanation won't work. I have talked with her at an appropriate level, I think, about love, marriage, babies, etc. up until now ...

 

I just didn't expect to have to address this so young ...

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