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post #21 of 36
Vaccines in food doesn't surprise me one bit.. Especially with the mjnsanto monopoly on seeds. Obama administration does NOTHING but encourage this dangerous monopoly... They even own most organic seeds too. The GMO stuff spreads thru all soil and even the few organic non Monsanto crops are taken over by resistant strains of all types f bad guys.. Including the foods that are Round up ready (laced with pesticides in their genes) so... Why not put medicine in the food??? World hunger vs world domination.. I think medicating us thru food domination is the obvious next step.
post #22 of 36
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Originally Posted by Mama Metis View Post

This concept isn't really novel.  There are already oral vaccines for several diseases. You are not going to be buying these foods in the grocery store. They are simply using these foods as delivery mechanisms, mostly to bring important vaccines to populations in which refrigeration is unavailable and there aren't enough personnel qualified to provide injections. Personally, I prefer oral vaccines when available because I think they can be a more natural mechanism of exposure than an intramuscular injection. Not everything is out to get you. 


Speculation! You don't know what they are going to do with the food.  Do yourself a huge favor and look at the harmful effects of GMO. Genetically modified food is poison, and harms every animal that consumes it, including people. And it IS in our food supply already. Look at all the processed food made with soy products. The huge health movement to push soy, soy, soy. Since most soy is genetically modified, that means you are getting a nice dose of poison when you eat it. I'm not exaggerating here. Why not look into this and make your own judgement? If you watch this easy video, you'll see how devastating it can be to consume GM food. Look at the facts.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbHW487dM7o&feature=related  Mr.Smith is an authority on the subject, and breaks it down so even a dummy like me can understand, lol!

So, since they have unleashed GMO on the population, what is going to stop them from doing the same with vaccine-laced food? They are experimenting with food as we speak, in real time, in real life. This IS happening.

 

post #23 of 36

I'm not arguing in favor of GMO food products. Although there isn't exactly evidence that GM food is "poison" I certainly understand and am aware of the concerns and personally avoid buying GM food as much as possible. However, what we're talking about here is using a food product as a delivery mechanism for a vaccine. Your belief that this technology will be used for insidious purposes is just as speculative as my assumption that it most likely will not. 
 

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Speculation! You don't know what they are going to do with the food.  Do yourself a huge favor and look at the harmful effects of GMO. Genetically modified food is poison, and harms every animal that consumes it, including people. And it IS in our food supply already. Look at all the processed food made with soy products. The huge health movement to push soy, soy, soy. Since most soy is genetically modified, that means you are getting a nice dose of poison when you eat it. I'm not exaggerating here. Why not look into this and make your own judgement? If you watch this easy video, you'll see how devastating it can be to consume GM food. Look at the facts.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbHW487dM7o&feature=related  Mr.Smith is an authority on the subject, and breaks it down so even a dummy like me can understand, lol!

So, since they have unleashed GMO on the population, what is going to stop them from doing the same with vaccine-laced food? They are experimenting with food as we speak, in real time, in real life. This IS happening.

 



 

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Originally Posted by Mama Metis View Post

I'm not arguing in favor of GMO food products. Although there isn't exactly evidence that GM food is "poison" I certainly understand and am aware of the concerns and personally avoid buying GM food as much as possible. However, what we're talking about here is using a food product as a delivery mechanism for a vaccine. Your belief that this technology will be used for insidious purposes is just as speculative as my assumption that it most likely will not. 
 



 




IDK if you are religious but The Bible says it's poison. The last time people started genetically modifying the food and animals God destroyed the world with the flood....

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IDK if you are religious but The Bible says it's poison. The last time people started genetically modifying the food and animals God destroyed the world with the flood....

 

I take it this is some sort of Levitican back-formation?

 

[ETA.--Levitico-Deuteronomic, that is.]


Edited by Otto - 3/16/11 at 6:40pm
post #26 of 36
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Your belief that this technology will be used for insidious purposes is just as speculative as my assumption that it most likely will not. 
 



 


Lol, you are right. Touche!

 

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I take it this is some sort of Levitican back-formation?

 

[ETA.--Levitico-Deuteronomic, that is.]



Leviticus 19:19, Deuteronomy 22:9-11

The ancient book of Jasher (specifically 4:18) goes into the time's of Noah more (and about the genetically modifying plants and species) but that book and it's meanings are mentioned and acknowledged in Joshua 10:13 and 2 Samuel 1:18

 

Mathew 13:24-30 is detailed that enemies plant the corrupt seeds that produce tares (a modified wheat that is in-edible)

Mathew 13:37-43 speaks of this again and of the evil these seeds are

Mathew 15:13 "Every plant, which my heavenly father hath not created, will be rooted up"

 

not to mention a few in Genesis that go into details on God making everything and how man can't ect.

 

 

post #28 of 36
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Leviticus 19:19, Deuteronomy 22:9-11

Interesting proof-text.

 

The ancient book of Jasher (specifically 4:18) goes into the time's of Noah more (and about the genetically modifying plants and species) but that book and it's meanings are mentioned and acknowledged in Joshua 10:13 and 2 Samuel 1:18

 

"And their judges and rulers went to the daughters of men and took their wives by force from their husbands according to their choice, and the sons of men in those days took from the cattle of the earth, the beasts of the field and the fowls of the air, and taught the mixture of animals of one species with the other, in order therewith to provoke the Lord; and God saw the whole earth and it was corrupt, for all flesh had corrupted its ways upon earth, all men and all animals." Jasher 4:18

 

"So the sun stood still, and the moon stopped, till the nation avenged itself on[a] its enemies, as it is written in the Book of Jashar.The sun stopped in the middle of the sky and delayed going down about a full day." Joshua 10:13

 

"and he said it should be taught to the people of Judah; behold, it is written in the Book of Jashar." 2 Samuel 1:18

 

I'm not seeing any mention, or even an allusion, to GMO.

 

 

Mathew 13:24-30 is detailed that enemies plant the corrupt seeds that produce tares (a modified wheat that is in-edible)

Mathew 13:37-43 speaks of this again and of the evil these seeds are

Mathew 15:13 "Every plant, which my heavenly father hath not created, will be rooted up"

 

not to mention a few in Genesis that go into details on God making everything and how man can't ect.

 

So, you believe the intention of Jesus' parables was to caution us about GMO, not spiritual matters?


 

 

 

post #29 of 36
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Jesus' parables have a lot to do with a lot of things. I think eating GMO foods IS spiritually related b/c it is man playing God and interfering with His world, His species, and His creation. Genetic Modification is an evil. Of course The Bible does not say in exact words "Genetically engineered food is the devil" but it does speak of times where man has done this before (although it was achieved in a different way) and how it was evil and against God. There is indication that God destroyed man and animals b/c of all the evil and corrupt which included man making new species. Do I think it was the sole reason...probably not, but it still provoked God and was/is not the way it is meant to be.

 

l don't see how Jasher isn't the perfect proof? They are saying they made new species from mixing animals...

 

The second 2 verses was to validify the book of Jasher. (which I explained)

 

 

post #30 of 36

Its fine if you feel it is a personal spiritual matter, but I can't agree with your use of Scripture to back it up, particularly the Parables. One must tread lightly and apply Scriptures within their intended context.

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Whoa, I came back here and all of a sudden I am seeing a fight about scriptures?

Seriously the bible and religion have no place in a scientific discussion about vaccines in food. If someone believes that personally that is totally fine with me but don't use it as a reason why something is occurring or whatever. I didn't know the Bible says it is poison but I don't care because I am not religious at all so that argument tends to annoy me in regard to scientific facts, which the bible certainly is not.

 

Can we stick to the topic of vaccines in food? I can totally see this happening in the near future, why not, they are already experimenting with GMOs what would be so shocking about experimenting with putting vaccines in commonly eaten foods...The idea disgusts me, but then again I completely avoid GMOs as best I can, which is difficult even on the good days and almost impossible when eating out, or at another persons house or something....sigh.

post #32 of 36
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Originally Posted by Ldavis24 View Post

Whoa, I came back here and all of a sudden I am seeing a fight about scriptures?

Seriously the bible and religion have no place in a scientific discussion about vaccines in food. If someone believes that personally that is totally fine with me but don't use it as a reason why something is occurring or whatever. I didn't know the Bible says it is poison but I don't care because I am not religious at all so that argument tends to annoy me in regard to scientific facts, which the bible certainly is not.

 

Can we stick to the topic of vaccines in food? I can totally see this happening in the near future, why not, they are already experimenting with GMOs what would be so shocking about experimenting with putting vaccines in commonly eaten foods...The idea disgusts me, but then again I completely avoid GMOs as best I can, which is difficult even on the good days and almost impossible when eating out, or at another persons house or something....sigh.



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post #33 of 36
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l don't see how Jasher isn't the perfect proof?


Perhaps because the "ancient book" you're relying on isn't so ancient? In any event, the kilayim postdate the flood. The assertion that "the last time people started genetically modifying the food and animals God destroyed the world with the flood" remains unsupported, to say the least. If you want to attempt such Old Testament arguments, a passing familiarity with halachic precedent would help.

 

Sorry about the digression.

 

[ETA.--The 4:18 quote doesn't appear in the Ilive work, so I'm guessing it's the 1840 translation/1625 fiction.]


Edited by Otto - 3/17/11 at 2:02pm
post #34 of 36
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Originally Posted by Ldavis24 View Post

Whoa, I came back here and all of a sudden I am seeing a fight about scriptures?

Seriously the bible and religion have no place in a scientific discussion about vaccines in food. If someone believes that personally that is totally fine with me but don't use it as a reason why something is occurring or whatever. I didn't know the Bible says it is poison but I don't care because I am not religious at all so that argument tends to annoy me in regard to scientific facts, which the bible certainly is not.

 

Can we stick to the topic of vaccines in food? I can totally see this happening in the near future, why not, they are already experimenting with GMOs what would be so shocking about experimenting with putting vaccines in commonly eaten foods...The idea disgusts me, but then again I completely avoid GMOs as best I can, which is difficult even on the good days and almost impossible when eating out, or at another persons house or something....sigh.




We shouldn't be fighting about scripture or even whether or not GMO foods are good or bad. The point of the thread was to discuss/inform about vax being "experimentally" put in food. Frankly we shouldn't even be having a "conspiracy theory" fight here either...

 

Yes of course an oral vax should be less invasive, but who knows what they are doing to the food to be able to make it withstand the vax and what chemicals/toxins will be introduced to the food to be able to remain stable.

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post #36 of 36
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Originally Posted by Ldavis24 View Post

Whoa, I came back here and all of a sudden I am seeing a fight about scriptures?

Seriously the bible and religion have no place in a scientific discussion about vaccines in food. If someone believes that personally that is totally fine with me but don't use it as a reason why something is occurring or whatever. I didn't know the Bible says it is poison but I don't care because I am not religious at all so that argument tends to annoy me in regard to scientific facts, which the bible certainly is not.

 

Can we stick to the topic of vaccines in food? I can totally see this happening in the near future, why not, they are already experimenting with GMOs what would be so shocking about experimenting with putting vaccines in commonly eaten foods...The idea disgusts me, but then again I completely avoid GMOs as best I can, which is difficult even on the good days and almost impossible when eating out, or at another persons house or something....sigh.


Whew! I agree with you for once.
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