*** Bitter Sushi Ladies, March 2011 Thread ***

[miriam_bat_avraham]

 Welcome to the March Thread 

This is a thread for those who have been TTC for a long time, whether 6 months, 12 months, or more. At this point many of us are at or past 1 or 2 years, many have had losses, many are dealing with various forms of infertility, and some are just in a waiting period until they can TTC again.

The name? Well, all things considered we tend to be a little bitter sometimes. So read with care. And due to everything, our emotions run a little raw like sushi. Too many cycles of BFN and CD1 sushi & sake to console ourselves. This TTC business is something that seems to "just happen" for so many...but we just can't seem to get it right. So this is where we can be together, share and express anything.

Current Bitter Sushi Ladies

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33, and DH (36), TTC (his #2, my #1) off-and-on since November 2006

~AA~

Trying with DH since Feb 2008, on Clomid

amo4piano

TTC #1 since Jan 2010, one m/c at 10.5 weeks

Attached2Elijah

Hoping for #3 for 4 years and 3 months with 6 months hard TTC (charting, etc) after previous unexplained secondary infertility.

blueyezz4

TTC #1 (technically #4-long story) since 2006; Moving on to our first FET after 5 failed IUI's and 1 IVF

borobaby

TTC #2 for 7 months

collieflower

TTC #2 for 2 years, with 4 m/c (and another before DC#1)

enigo

Has one beautiful son, trying to conceive after three losses

grahnola mum

TTC #2 since December 2008, with 7 losses, 8 weeks pg and hoping that it will stick.

InWaiting

TTC #1 since 04/2009 with one ectopic (11/09), one missed miscarriage (11/10),

Hypothyroidism and compound heterozygous MTHFR mutation. Current regimen is 5 mg of Femara on CD 3-7.

indianagirl

36, TTC for a little over two years onto IUI and clomid

jenger

Mama to DD (4/07) TTC #2 since August 2009.

jennabella

TTC #2 since July 2009, with a loss in February 2010 and a loss in July 2010

justhinkn

TTC #2 since summer 2009, just starting IF testing with DH

keria

TTC #1 since October 2008.

kgulbransen

TTC since April 2010, 5 IUIs & 1 at home with frozen, all using HCG trigger; 5 at home insems with fresh donor, latest one Jan (try#11). Short luteal phase, otherwise all clear, have tried Femara and Clomid with no success. On to IVF in April??

kinza

TTC #1 since November 2008, with PCOS and Male Factor

kparker

TTC #1 since 9/08 with male factor, IUI #2 with donor sperm March 2011

Kyamo

TTC#1 since Jan 2010 (with PCOS)

laggie

TTC #1 since Fall 2009 with male factor issues

lapis

TTC #1 since August 2008. Living in a new country with a calmer lifestyle and trying not to get sucked into the TTC vacuum

lavatea

Has two lovely children, 6 and 3. Lost #3 at 18 weeks last November. Lost #4 pretty much right away, 4w6d in March. Lost #5 at 6w3d this past June

lilmom

35, ttc #2 for a year and a half with pcos and rarely ovulating

littlest birds

TTC for 16+ months after VR

luminesce

TTC #2 since 4/2010 after 3 years of unexplained infertility with #1

mahnamahna

Mama to 1 amazing son, TTC #2 for one year, natural parenting blogger

Milk8shake

Jayde (27) - TTC #1 since 4/09. Battling endo, uterine abnormality and recurrent pregnancy loss. Hoping for a take-home baby in 2011.

miriam bat avraham

J (28) & DH (35), TTC #1 since December 2008. Currently trying a first round of Gonal-F injectables and Prometrium 

MommyMatsumoto

TTC #2 since 3/2010

monkeyscience

27, TTC #1 with PCOS since 6/10

mrs.nap515

TTC #1 with DH. Hormone deficiencies and hypothalmic amenorrhea.

Objet_Trouve

TTC #1 since Jan 2010 with PCOS

Rachel88

Rachel (29) and DH (30) TTC #1 since March 2010. One loss Aug. 2010 at 12 weeks.

rcr

TTC #2 since 12/2007, one loss in September 2010, one failed IVF in February 2011

silverbird

ttc #1 since June 2010, after a two year delay for illness.  Waiting for IVF. 

SimplyRochelle

TTC #1 on and off since 5/2007, m/c at 12 weeks 9/08.

Smilesarefree

36 year old mom of one wonderful dd trying for another since April 2010

Sweet.Bee

TTC #2 with late ovulation and an overworked husband

sweetest77

38 y/o, TTC #3 since May 09, after VR

tara2

TTC #4 (#2 for DH) since October 2009, DH with low count

TTC3Years

TTC #1 for since December of ‘06

ZanneMom

TTC#2 for more than 12 months

 In our thoughts, on hold, and/or waiting 

BelovedK

Mama of 2 (15yo DS, 10yo DD). Wife to one incredible man. Residing in Central VA. TTC someone new since November 2008 with 2 m/c (Feb/09 and Jul/09). An avid bellydancer and firedancer, who works part time doing hair, and who is giving her loving energy nowadays more toward her DH than TTC

mi_dawn

lost baby William (born still 4/09) and two m/c in 09.

 BSL BFPs!!! Stick little babies, stick, stick, stick... 

Jane - due 10/3/2011 

slylives - due 6/2011 

Tear78 - due 8/4/2011 

Maurine - due 8/2/2011 

CLH_X3 - due 7/13/11 

kalamos23 - due 4/2011 

xtara2003x - due 5/5/10 

jenniferadurham - Due 4/2011 

nanette56 - due 4/2011 with twins!  

babygrey - due 4/2011 with twins!  

 Waiting on an update... 

grapesbunch - due 1/13/11 

rachwms - Due 11/10 

 BSL BABIES 

finnegansmom - Henry born 2/11!

jessica_s - Asher Kingston 1/20/11 

QBear'sMama - Jack Everett 12/17/10!

BarefootGirl - DS 11/20/10!

kellyttc#1 - Hilary & Charlotte 11/11/10!

YummyYumYumMama - Kieran 10/27/10!

lyndzies - Cadence James 10/15/10!

Carlyle - Maggie 10/9/10!

aidanraynesmom - Sloan Phoenix 9/10!

MaerynPearl - Maeryn Jean 9/27/10!

colorbywords - Emery Oaklynn 8/03/10!

LZP - Anna Veronica 7/18/10!

Pinoikoi - Ursula Marisol 6/23/10!

Lisko15 - Caleb Benjamin 6/24/10!

LINK to our graduates thread - New Year 2011 Edition!

Please let the threadkeeper know if your info needs to be updated.

New ladies are always welcome, but please join with care.

Please put all notes for changes or additions to this post in bold! Thank you!!

Edited by miriam_bat_avraham - 3/11/11 at 7:59am

[miriam_bat_avraham]

Okay, I toyed with some funny thread titles a-la The One, but I have a bit of a twisted sense of humor and didn't know if it was too much/if I would have been taking too many liberties with the thread, since it can get serious sometimes. But here were the ideas I considered:

Bitter Sushi Ladies-- Not Spayed, Just Delayed!

Bitter Sushi Ladies-- Enough Wait, Please; Bring on the Babies!

Bitter Sushi Ladies-- Waitin', Frustratin' and Conversatin'

Bitter Sushi Ladies-- HARBINGERS OF UTERINE DOOOOOOM

I'm terrible. I know. You may all have one free shot at me while my back is turned. lol!

Edited by miriam_bat_avraham - 3/1/11 at 6:01pm

[monkeyscience]

MBA - I'm actually 27 now... I forgot to change that in my last update. And feel free to call the thread whatever you like!

I got my Provera today, so I can start that tonight. I also got the news that my grandfather is in the ICU, very possibly dying. From what little info I've gotten, it sounds like he died and was resuscitated today, or something like that. He's 2000 miles away, and I can't really afford to just fly out there and be with him and the family, but I wish I could. :(

[miriam_bat_avraham]

Originally Posted by monkeyscience 

MBA - I'm actually 27 now... I forgot to change that in my last update. And feel free to call the thread whatever you like!

I got my Provera today, so I can start that tonight. I also got the news that my grandfather is in the ICU, very possibly dying. From what little info I've gotten, it sounds like he died and was resuscitated today, or something like that. He's 2000 miles away, and I can't really afford to just fly out there and be with him and the family, but I wish I could. :(

Oh no! I'm so sorry you can't be with your grandfather  That must be so hard. I lost my mom's parents eight and a half years ago, and I still remember how hard it was and thinking about missing them still brings tears to my eyes. I think Lavatea lost her grandfather not too long ago as well, and then my father in law died this summer... ugh, so much loss. I'll be thinking of you and your family. 

[lilmom]

so sorry Monkey! Hang in there!! It is so hard to be so far away from family, especially in a crisis.

kparker, don't be scared of acupuncture. It's soooo relaxing! And trust me, if I can say that, with my huge fear of needles, I promise you, it will be just fine. Tell the acupuncturist you are nervous and they might even give you a little bell to hold to call them if you panic. That is what they do with me!

MBA, love love the funny thread titles. My personal fave is Waitin', Frustratin', and Conversatin'. LOL. They're all funny though. I like your sense of humor girl! I think my own tag could be "Endlessly Waitin' at the Ovulation Situation Station", but of course that doesn't apply to a bunch of us. I'm hoping you have threadkeeper's luck this month!

[objet_trouve]

Just have to talk about this, cause I'm super excited.

Husband got his CPAP machine yesterday The doctor thinks this will help him in many areas in his life, including our TTC efforts, by way of less stress from not sleeping messing with his body, improvement (or elimination, depending on whether this caused or aggravated his condition) of psychological issues which may have damaged his sex drive, and less just being too tired to have sex. He scored 150 on the apnea hypopnea scale, doctor says over 30 is severe, and in the past nine months working at this clinic he'd only seen two people with higher scores (and I believe he also said both of those cases were obesity related, which my husband is not, has to do with how the back of his mouth is shaped). Doctor said regarding the oxygen he was getting, it's like he's been sleeping at the top of Mount Everest every night.

It sounds stupid, but I teared up a little at the doctor's office today going over the results. When we were first dating, he stayed over at my place sometimes, and right away I noticed the painful sounding snoring (could hear it two rooms away, and my room had concrete walls, being a converted garage), the choking, the stopping breathing bit (he stops breathing every 20 seconds) and weirdest of all, the fact that he often slept with his head raised about 2 inches off his pillow. His ex used to poke him when he snored, so he started sleeping like that because he didn't snore when he lifted his head up. I started shaking him and waking him up so he could change to laying on his side so he couldn't do it, try to keep his neck from getting hurt. This could be responsible for a LOT of the problems he's had in life, maybe even some issues we've encountered in our marriage, the way he deals with conflict (napping, getting too down to deal with it), and certainly our TTC attempts. I teared up because this is a ton of pain for him and a lot of insomnia for me (I sit up at night worrying about him and wind up sleeping in the day time when he's at school) that may go away now. It may be almost over.

It's a step closer to getting to where we need to be to get pregnant, and if nothing else it means a higher quality of life for us both.

[kparker]

I told them I was afraid, and they said it was no biggie, they'd talk me through it.

Also, MBA, could you update my intro up there to IUI#2 in March? :D

[LessTraveledBy]

monkey.... I used to have acupuncture for my neck problems and really loved it. Those needles are not needles as we are used to thinking of them, you know... it is just not the same thing. Hope you will feel wonderful when you get to go!

Wonderful af, would not know it was here from how my body feels. But now, of course, it just leaves me to wonder if it is a good or a bad sign, as I used to have terribly painful periods before and after dd was conceived.

MBA.. Yeah, please call this thread whatever you would like. Right now my feelings are that this is the thread for those who cannot bare to look at the thread titles in the other forums... as if one could miss them when coming here. 

I am anxious today... have been for some days. I think I might be a bit on the hyper side from too much thyroid medication or something. Who knows. I am feeling pretty depressed, too, which also goes with my hypo, whether I am under or over medicated. Nothing interests me today. I hate you, hypothyroidism and what you have done to my life. (And I love you, Armour and Thyroid, for having given my life back, even if balancing the meds is sometimnes very hard.)

[Sweet.Bee]

Smiles, yeah, our little one just turned 22 months. He's really amazing me with how much he's learning! I'm very proud of him.  He is also the most social child I have ever seen, going up to people to flirt, smile, play, etc. I really want to give him a sibling and feel sad that it's taking so long.

LessTraveledBy, I'm sorry all your friends have so many children. I think that TTC is hard enough, but what really hurts are the constant reminders: pregnant women everywhere, seeing all the people with many young ones close in age, etc. I am constantly encountering women with a child my son's age who are pregnant or have a 2nd baby already or even pregnant with a 3rd already! And it's only getting worse as he gets older.

Which reminds me, crazy story of the week. We were talking a walk and encountered a woman with a daughter a couple weeks younger than my son. Of course she was heavily pregnant again.  But that's not the best part. As I said, my son is very social, so he ran to the woman to smile at her. He ran right past me, and then she joked, "No, that's your mother. You know the difference because she's the one who is not pregnant." Um, ok. Thanks. I know she didn't mean anything by it; she just didn't think. Like most fertile people. Still, I was tempted to tell her actually we've been trying for like a year. Sigh.

miriam, nice titles.  I don't even load the TTC page anymore. I just reload this thread. It is too hard to see the "I was on birth control and used a condom and just got a BFP!" or "we were going to start trying next month, but we don't need to because I'm pregnant!" Raaeeow! (That was my attempt at an angry cat noise.  We need a cat with claws out smilie.)

monkey,  regarding your grandfather.

lilmom, I'll keep you company at the waiting forever to ovulate station.

objet, I hope your husband is sleeping better soon.

kparker, when is the IUI? Are you close?

Sooo, still no period. Third day of spotting. My body likes to torture me. But I'm 14DPO (I think, but I couldn't temp, so this is based on OPKs and CM). I think I'll start bleeding today or tomorrow. And I'm annoyed with our insurance right now. We tried to add an option today (meaning we would be paying them more money), and they won't let us do it until the beginning of next year b/c "that's the rule". Stupid inflexible people. Grrr.

[Kyamo]

Thanks for the new thread, Miriam. Cool title ideas, though I'm not too sure about the spayed one. It brings dogs to mind, lol.

I've got another US tomorrow to check whether my cyst has shrunk at all. Hope so!

[Smilesarefree]

MBA - thanks for the new thread, I like the not spayed delayed!!!!  I like your sense of humor and your positivity.  I don't even know what the "one threads" mean, I just look for this thread and ignore pretty much everything else.

Monkey - Sorry about your grandfather

Sweetbee - dd will be 21 months next week and I know how you feel about wanting to give him a sibling.

Objet - Glad to hear you and dh got some help - being tired all of the time certainly can't help ttc, maybe your luck is about to change!

Kyamo - shrink cyst shrink!!!

Everyone else - Hi!!!

AFM - CD 45!!!  I started to have what looks like stretchy ewcm last night so maybe I am going to O.  I should really start charting, I have always been so regular that I never bothered.

[Sweet.Bee]

Kyamo, hoping your cyst went away!

Smiles, wow CD45. That's awful. Long cycles are so annoying. Have you ever temped? I ask because if you know what pre and post O temps are for you, you might be able to figure something out by starting tomorrow, even so late in a cycle. Also, have you taken an OPK today?

I'm having one of those days. First, there was the nonsense with our health insurance. Then some crazy guy starting shouting at me for crossing the street at the crosswalk b/c he was annoyed he had to stop his car to wait for us, as though our street in our small family-friendly town is a race track or something.  And I'm on day 3 of spotting, which is like extended torture before the new cycle inevitably begins. When my son wakes up from his nap, I'm going to go into the city with him and try to cheer myself up by looking for a costume for him for Carnival.

[miriam_bat_avraham]

Objet-- that's so exciting about the CPAP! I understand how a "small" thing can make huge health problems for someone, and of course you love him so you'll also be worried. It's scary to think of someone stopping breathing in their sleep all the time... ugh. And I'm especially glad for you that it'll improve your lives dramatically even if it doesn't help with TTC (which I hope it does!)

Originally Posted by kparker 

I told them I was afraid, and they said it was no biggie, they'd talk me through it.

Also, MBA, could you update my intro up there to IUI#2 in March? :D

Sure thing! I saw the old description and knew it was outdated, but I didn't want to change it without checking in first, so thanks 

Originally Posted by Sweet.Bee 

 As I said, my son is very social, so he ran to the woman to smile at her. He ran right past me, and then she joked, "No, that's your mother. You know the difference because she's the one who is not pregnant." Um, ok. Thanks. I know she didn't mean anything by it; she just didn't think. Like most fertile people. Still, I was tempted to tell her actually we've been trying for like a year. Sigh.

miriam, nice titles.  I don't even load the TTC page anymore. I just reload this thread. It is too hard to see the "I was on birth control and used a condom and just got a BFP!" or "we were going to start trying next month, but we don't need to because I'm pregnant!" Raaeeow! (That was my attempt at an angry cat noise.  We need a cat with claws out smilie.)

Sooo, still no period. Third day of spotting. My body likes to torture me. But I'm 14DPO (I think, but I couldn't temp, so this is based on OPKs and CM). I think I'll start bleeding today or tomorrow. And I'm annoyed with our insurance right now. We tried to add an option today (meaning we would be paying them more money), and they won't let us do it until the beginning of next year b/c "that's the rule". Stupid inflexible people. Grrr.

That story... blech. You know she didn't mean anything by it, how could she know, but it does sound terrible, doesn't it... *hug* It'll be you soon, too, and then she can eat her words and then metabolize them into her bloodstream and her baby can eat her words, too! 

Originally Posted by Kyamo 

Thanks for the new thread, Miriam. Cool title ideas, though I'm not too sure about the spayed one. It brings dogs to mind, lol.

I've got another US tomorrow to check whether my cyst has shrunk at all. Hope so!

 

Okay, I know it's a hyena, so just pretend it's a laughing dog 

Fingers crossed for you!

Originally Posted by Smilesarefree 

MBA - thanks for the new thread, I like the not spayed delayed!!!!  I like your sense of humor and your positivity.  I don't even know what the "one threads" mean, I just look for this thread and ignore pretty much everything else.

Monkey - Sorry about your grandfather

Sweetbee - dd will be 21 months next week and I know how you feel about wanting to give him a sibling.

Objet - Glad to hear you and dh got some help - being tired all of the time certainly can't help ttc, maybe your luck is about to change!

Kyamo - shrink cyst shrink!!!

Everyone else - Hi!!!

AFM - CD 45!!!  I started to have what looks like stretchy ewcm last night so maybe I am going to O.  I should really start charting, I have always been so regular that I never bothered.

FINALLY! Dang, CD 45... fingers crossed for you, too! (I'm gonna run out of fingers!)

The One Thread is short for "One Thread To Rule Them All" (yanno, Lord of the Rings, etc). Basically years ago people would come to the TTC board and make separate threads for themselves-- "I'm CD 4 today!" "I'm 6dpo and spotting, is that good?" etc. And it was confusing, so they created a weekly thread called The One Thread to use the way we use this monthly post. Everyone just uses it to check in and update and ask questions and offer support. It's nice, and a lot of us started out there, but it has a bit of a "revolving door" feeling because most of the women there are normally fertile, so they don't stick around for a while like us, and it's hard to see, say, jenny36752 come in "My husband and I are trying for #1!!" and then three days later "I'm preggo!!!" (ugh, I hate hate hate that word) and then two years later she's back trying for her second. So we hang here where we can be bitter and grumpy and roll our eyes in peace. And if someone comes in here as a new person and gets pregnant right away, it's easier to not feel upset about it because a) they're here because they were trying for a while to begin with, and b) it's not EVERYONE here, just the occasional person, so it doesn't feel like being left behind.

[rcr]

Thanks for the new thread, MBA. Love the names!

Everybody else - I am not keeping up with this thread as much as I used to, but I am always thinking about you and hoping for little miracles for each one of you. I am trying to put some distance between myself and obsessing over TTC. I also came across a thread from the main board about creating a treasure map for the new zodiac year starting in april, and joined them (under spirituality, if you are interested), and part of the process is cleaning and decluttering at the end of the old zodiac year (I am new, but this is my understanding). Part of my decluttering process is to try to spend a little less time obsessing about ttc and online (I even deactivated my FB account temporarily), in addition to decluttering my house and life in general (so, you do it mentally as well as physically getting rid of crap you don't need). I am super-excited about it.

I am on CD5. AF is lasting really long and is really heavy, I suppose that is because the IVF drugs made my lining super-cozy for the embryo. I decided to take soy this cycle, on CD3, just before I went to bed, in hopes of catching a egg naturally before we dive into another IVF cycle in a few months.

hugs to all of you. :hug

[objet_trouve]

Starting vitex today. Wish me luck!

[jenger]

Hi Ladies-

It's been a long, long while.

I have been mostly going to the infertility zone mostly for Sweet.Bee's reasons...
 

Originally Posted by Sweet.Bee 

miriam, nice titles.  I don't even load the TTC page anymore. I just reload this thread. It is too hard to see the "I was on birth control and used a condom and just got a BFP!" or "we were going to start trying next month, but we don't need to because I'm pregnant!" Raaeeow! (That was my attempt at an angry cat noise.  We need a cat with claws out smilie.)

I just can't look.  When I do, I occasionally click on threads that are bad for me. 

But here's the thing.  I need a little more support right now.  The infertility one is slow. 

I got a bfn this morning, 13dpo.  I had hope, as I took clomid this round.  I am dying, and not sure how to get back on with life.
 

Originally Posted by rcr !

Everybody else - I am not keeping up with this thread as much as I used to, but I am always thinking about you and hoping for little miracles for each one of you. I am trying to put some distance between myself and obsessing over TTC. I also came across a thread from the main board about creating a treasure map for the new zodiac year starting in april, and joined them (under spirituality, if you are interested), and part of the process is cleaning and decluttering at the end of the old zodiac year (I am new, but this is my understanding). Part of my decluttering process is to try to spend a little less time obsessing about ttc and online (I even deactivated my FB account temporarily), in addition to decluttering my house and life in general (so, you do it mentally as well as physically getting rid of crap you don't need). I am super-excited about it.

I am on CD5. AF is lasting really long and is really heavy, I suppose that is because the IVF drugs made my lining super-cozy for the embryo. I decided to take soy this cycle, on CD3, just before I went to bed, in hopes of catching a egg naturally before we dive into another IVF cycle in a few months.

hugs to all of you. :hug

Oh, rcr - I am so sorry to read that IVF didn't work.  That plain sucks. BIG hugs to you.  And congratulations on finding ways to deal.  (That's what I need to do...)

[Kinza]

Originally Posted by miriam_bat_avraham 

Okay, I toyed with some funny thread titles a-la The One, but I have a bit of a twisted sense of humor and didn't know if it was too much/if I would have been taking too many liberties with the thread, since it can get serious sometimes. But here were the ideas I considered:

Bitter Sushi Ladies-- Not Spayed, Just Delayed!

Bitter Sushi Ladies-- Enough Wait, Please; Bring on the Babies!

Bitter Sushi Ladies-- Waitin', Frustratin' and Conversatin'

Bitter Sushi Ladies-- HARBINGERS OF UTERINE DOOOOOOM

I'm terrible. I know. You may all have one free shot at me while my back is turned. lol!

Thanks for the new thread, MbA!  I laughed at the Harbingers of Uterine DOOOOOM option.
 

Originally Posted by monkeyscience 

MBA - I'm actually 27 now... I forgot to change that in my last update. And feel free to call the thread whatever you like!

I got my Provera today, so I can start that tonight. I also got the news that my grandfather is in the ICU, very possibly dying. From what little info I've gotten, it sounds like he died and was resuscitated today, or something like that. He's 2000 miles away, and I can't really afford to just fly out there and be with him and the family, but I wish I could. :(

monkey, so sorry you can't get to your grandfather.

Originally Posted by objet_trouve 

Just have to talk about this, cause I'm super excited.

Husband got his CPAP machine yesterday The doctor thinks this will help him in many areas in his life, including our TTC efforts, by way of less stress from not sleeping messing with his body, improvement (or elimination, depending on whether this caused or aggravated his condition) of psychological issues which may have damaged his sex drive, and less just being too tired to have sex. He scored 150 on the apnea hypopnea scale, doctor says over 30 is severe, and in the past nine months working at this clinic he'd only seen two people with higher scores (and I believe he also said both of those cases were obesity related, which my husband is not, has to do with how the back of his mouth is shaped). Doctor said regarding the oxygen he was getting, it's like he's been sleeping at the top of Mount Everest every night.

It sounds stupid, but I teared up a little at the doctor's office today going over the results. When we were first dating, he stayed over at my place sometimes, and right away I noticed the painful sounding snoring (could hear it two rooms away, and my room had concrete walls, being a converted garage), the choking, the stopping breathing bit (he stops breathing every 20 seconds) and weirdest of all, the fact that he often slept with his head raised about 2 inches off his pillow. His ex used to poke him when he snored, so he started sleeping like that because he didn't snore when he lifted his head up. I started shaking him and waking him up so he could change to laying on his side so he couldn't do it, try to keep his neck from getting hurt. This could be responsible for a LOT of the problems he's had in life, maybe even some issues we've encountered in our marriage, the way he deals with conflict (napping, getting too down to deal with it), and certainly our TTC attempts. I teared up because this is a ton of pain for him and a lot of insomnia for me (I sit up at night worrying about him and wind up sleeping in the day time when he's at school) that may go away now. It may be almost over.

It's a step closer to getting to where we need to be to get pregnant, and if nothing else it means a higher quality of life for us both.

So glad your hubby got the CPAP!  I hope this is a great first step for you guys.  And I totally know what you mean about staying awake at night--my DH snorts and chokes and has a hideous death-rattle snore, then stops breathing until I smack him back to life.  He is refusing a sleep study at this point. 
 

Originally Posted by LessTraveledBy 

monkey.... I used to have acupuncture for my neck problems and really loved it. Those needles are not needles as we are used to thinking of them, you know... it is just not the same thing. Hope you will feel wonderful when you get to go!

Wonderful af, would not know it was here from how my body feels. But now, of course, it just leaves me to wonder if it is a good or a bad sign, as I used to have terribly painful periods before and after dd was conceived.

MBA.. Yeah, please call this thread whatever you would like. Right now my feelings are that this is the thread for those who cannot bare to look at the thread titles in the other forums... as if one could miss them when coming here. 

I am anxious today... have been for some days. I think I might be a bit on the hyper side from too much thyroid medication or something. Who knows. I am feeling pretty depressed, too, which also goes with my hypo, whether I am under or over medicated. Nothing interests me today. I hate you, hypothyroidism and what you have done to my life. (And I love you, Armour and Thyroid, for having given my life back, even if balancing the meds is sometimnes very hard.)

LTB:

Originally Posted by Sweet.Bee 

Smiles, yeah, our little one just turned 22 months. He's really amazing me with how much he's learning! I'm very proud of him.  He is also the most social child I have ever seen, going up to people to flirt, smile, play, etc. I really want to give him a sibling and feel sad that it's taking so long.

LessTraveledBy, I'm sorry all your friends have so many children. I think that TTC is hard enough, but what really hurts are the constant reminders: pregnant women everywhere, seeing all the people with many young ones close in age, etc. I am constantly encountering women with a child my son's age who are pregnant or have a 2nd baby already or even pregnant with a 3rd already! And it's only getting worse as he gets older.

Which reminds me, crazy story of the week. We were talking a walk and encountered a woman with a daughter a couple weeks younger than my son. Of course she was heavily pregnant again.  But that's not the best part. As I said, my son is very social, so he ran to the woman to smile at her. He ran right past me, and then she joked, "No, that's your mother. You know the difference because she's the one who is not pregnant." Um, ok. Thanks. I know she didn't mean anything by it; she just didn't think. Like most fertile people. Still, I was tempted to tell her actually we've been trying for like a year. Sigh.

miriam, nice titles.  I don't even load the TTC page anymore. I just reload this thread. It is too hard to see the "I was on birth control and used a condom and just got a BFP!" or "we were going to start trying next month, but we don't need to because I'm pregnant!" Raaeeow! (That was my attempt at an angry cat noise.  We need a cat with claws out smilie.)

monkey,  regarding your grandfather.

lilmom, I'll keep you company at the waiting forever to ovulate station.

objet, I hope your husband is sleeping better soon.

kparker, when is the IUI? Are you close?

Sooo, still no period. Third day of spotting. My body likes to torture me. But I'm 14DPO (I think, but I couldn't temp, so this is based on OPKs and CM). I think I'll start bleeding today or tomorrow. And I'm annoyed with our insurance right now. We tried to add an option today (meaning we would be paying them more money), and they won't let us do it until the beginning of next year b/c "that's the rule". Stupid inflexible people. Grrr.

Sweet.Bee:
 

Originally Posted by Kyamo 

Thanks for the new thread, Miriam. Cool title ideas, though I'm not too sure about the spayed one. It brings dogs to mind, lol.

I've got another US tomorrow to check whether my cyst has shrunk at all. Hope so!

Kyamo:  Hope your cyst is gone!

Originally Posted by Smilesarefree 

MBA - thanks for the new thread, I like the not spayed delayed!!!!  I like your sense of humor and your positivity.  I don't even know what the "one threads" mean, I just look for this thread and ignore pretty much everything else.

Monkey - Sorry about your grandfather

Sweetbee - dd will be 21 months next week and I know how you feel about wanting to give him a sibling.

Objet - Glad to hear you and dh got some help - being tired all of the time certainly can't help ttc, maybe your luck is about to change!

Kyamo - shrink cyst shrink!!!

Everyone else - Hi!!!

AFM - CD 45!!!  I started to have what looks like stretchy ewcm last night so maybe I am going to O.  I should really start charting, I have always been so regular that I never bothered.

Smiles:  that O is coming.  (I hate having to hunt for the stupid smilies, but I don't like the other format where you can just type in a command.  ARGH.)
 

Originally Posted by rcr 

Thanks for the new thread, MBA. Love the names!

Everybody else - I am not keeping up with this thread as much as I used to, but I am always thinking about you and hoping for little miracles for each one of you. I am trying to put some distance between myself and obsessing over TTC. I also came across a thread from the main board about creating a treasure map for the new zodiac year starting in april, and joined them (under spirituality, if you are interested), and part of the process is cleaning and decluttering at the end of the old zodiac year (I am new, but this is my understanding). Part of my decluttering process is to try to spend a little less time obsessing about ttc and online (I even deactivated my FB account temporarily), in addition to decluttering my house and life in general (so, you do it mentally as well as physically getting rid of crap you don't need). I am super-excited about it.

I am on CD5. AF is lasting really long and is really heavy, I suppose that is because the IVF drugs made my lining super-cozy for the embryo. I decided to take soy this cycle, on CD3, just before I went to bed, in hopes of catching a egg naturally before we dive into another IVF cycle in a few months.

hugs to all of you. :hug

Hi, rcr!

AFM, I'm 4 or 5 DPO.  No hope, really, but DH was sick during O time and taking mucinex with sudafed, so I guess we experimented with that.  There did seem to be more goop dripping out of me, but I don't know that sudafed had anything to do with it--it could have been because he was very well-hydrated for once.  He has an appointment next week for another semen analysis, this time taking sudafed beforehand and also submitting a urine sample to check it for sperm.  Then a week after that we go back to the urologist to see what we can see.  Doobie-doo.

[rcr]

Hey Jenger - Nice to see a familiar face... um, name, around here. Yea, it plain sucks, huh. I actually had a 90 cell embryo in me, 5 days old, and I still can't get pregnant. I still have the picture of the embryo. Sheesh. I am so dumb for still hope that it will happen naturally.

Sorry you are down. I was there a while ago. I don't know how to get over it either, so I am useless.

[Kinza]

Originally Posted by jenger 

Hi Ladies-

It's been a long, long while.

I have been mostly going to the infertility zone mostly for Sweet.Bee's reasons...
 

I just can't look.  When I do, I occasionally click on threads that are bad for me. 

But here's the thing.  I need a little more support right now.  The infertility one is slow. 

I got a bfn this morning, 13dpo.  I had hope, as I took clomid this round.  I am dying, and not sure how to get back on with life.
 

Oh, rcr - I am so sorry to read that IVF didn't work.  That plain sucks. BIG hugs to you.  And congratulations on finding ways to deal.  (That's what I need to do...)

jenger, we cross-posted.  I'm so sorry you got a bfn.  Was this a monitored cycle?  I don't know about getting back on with life--I am not doing very well at that.  But we all understand something of what you are going through, and somehow, you will go on.  It just takes some time. 

[Laggie]

I'm sorry, I'm not in the mood for personals today, I'm not much of a cheerer-upper atm.

I just clicked on a mama here to see how she was doing with a breakup, and she has posted that she is afraid she is pregnant. Seriously?   I mean, obviously she is having her own struggles, but still... Some days those kind of threads seem like a personal insult.

I think I need to just stick with clicking on "subscriptions" at the top, so I don't see anything like that... Normally I don't see the thread titles in Fertility because that is how I do it...