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post #41 of 129

Starlling: I swear by my sprayer! I can't imagine not having one. My sister who has cloth diapered 8 kiddos doesn't seem to think its a neccesary item but DH and I disagree! We also have a bucket that DH rigged up similar to the potty pail system and I love it!

 

The pattern I use for knitting longies is the picky pants pattern from Little Turtle Knits. I've been really happy with the few pairs I've done. I want to knit a few soakers too. I'll also be doing a couple of cocoons and just putting the baby in a t-shirt and diaper and using the cocoon as a cover. They look so snuggly!  The nice thing about knitting newborn sizes is that the project goes fast!

post #42 of 129

This is baby number one, and we're CDing. I'm going with Indian prefolds and covers for the first few months, but not sure what I'll use after that. I would like to be able to use prefolds the whole time, since they're so economical. Also, I like the idea of cotton against my babe's bum, and am less than thrilled with the idea of the synthetic materials other styles seem to use. Have any of you had success with prefolds once the youngins get into the heavy wetting wriggle worm phase?

 

For the pp who was wondering about CDing in a daycare setting...you mentioned a nanny but were worried that it would be cost prohibitive.  By all means, check out a nanny service, especially since you're having twins. I've heard that it can be cheaper than daycare in certain situations, multiple kids being one of them.

post #43 of 129

I'll do a combination.   Cloth diaper during the day and disposables at night and when we go out. :)  I've done both exclusively before and I've done it combined.  Combined works well for me! 

post #44 of 129

For those worried about laundry, diapers are the easiest bc there is no folding af terwards.  We keep them in a bin on the changing table shelf, so I just throw them into the bin from the laundry basket. 

 

Also, as someone mentioned, cloth tends to mean less bm blowouts, so less clothes laundry.  I think DS only had maybe 3 blowouts ever in cloth prefolds and AIO's, and his cousin had them constantly in disposables.

 

For heavy wetters, disposables can be nice for nights.  We used them for a while since we got them for free, when DS was eating every 2 hours overnight and cosleeping so I didnt' want to get up to change him.

 

We don't have a sprayer or spatula or anything.  I grew up dunking my sibs prefolds, so on the rare occasion that DS has a very mushy bm (on solids), we dunk and that works fine.  You just hold one end and dunk the part you're not holding.  Our pail is right there so in it goes.  We bought a pack of liners a while back, bc I had heard that in the transition from EBF to some solids, bm's get really nasty, mushed on to the dipe.  Well, we never used them.  Maybe it's the type of dipes we have (cotton flannel inners mostly), but generally the bm just sort of peels off and falls in the toilet.

post #45 of 129

halfbakedcake: their are lots of all cotton fitted options too. Prefolds and cotton fitteds in combination with wool covers would give you a natural fiber set up. 75% of our stash is prefolds by the way. I snappi them on my two year old no problem and have since she was born. No problems here.

post #46 of 129

me! I am!

But I haven't done it in awhile, when I did I used fuzzibunz and prefolds with covers before that. I am curious about wool shorties and longies.. do you just put a prefold in there? What's the deal? And you have to wash them all special too.

Yeah, I'm not hip to all the new brands and styles.. I will probably collect my stash gently used from other mamas or at kid's consignment sales. (in general, I am not a fan of retail)

post #47 of 129

Another CDer here.  DS is 2 and we did late EC/early potty learning with him so we've been done with diapers for a little while now.  I'm actually kind of excited to be able to start playing with diapers agian.  I'm so weird :) 

 

With DS, we started out with prefolds but then were blessed to recieve a bunch of hand-me-down Motherease (Sandies and One-size), which were great and became our go-to diapers.  No more poop leaking out around the legs of the prefolds.  I just never got the hang of folding the prefolds well enough for poop containment.  I think  I may try to make some tiny newborn fitteds out of my prefolds for this baby and then switch to the Motherease once he/she gets a little bigger.  I'll probably end up buying a few new things, too, but I really probably don't need to.

 

 I've mostly used wool covers, especially once we started using the Motherease and didn't have to worry about poop leaking out onto the covers.  I have a few CYA covers, and several covers and longies that I made out of Goodwill sweaters.  I actually just found a cashmere wool chocolate brown sweater at Goodwill for 4 bucks and I can't wait to turn it into something nice for a newborn. Oh, and I can't believe I almost forgot about our Aristocrats soaker.  We had a small and a large and we used those religiously for night time.  They were the only thing that worked for us at night.

 

For the person who asked about patterns for making covers, I didn't really use a pattern per se. There are lots of websites with tutorials for making recycled sweater soakers and longies, and they're really pretty easy to do without exact measurements (especially the longies).  Here are a few to get you started :)  And actually, if you use these methods, you can get a pair of longies and 2 soakers out of one big sweater!

 

http://marthasworld76.blogspot.com/2007/05/how-to-make-wool-soaker-from-recycled.html 

http://www.borntolove.com/frugal-column2.html 

 

 

post #48 of 129
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Originally Posted by starling&diesel View Post

QOTD:  How many of you used either liners or a sprayer?  We didn't use either, but now I'm wondering about both. 


We use a sprayer and I' in love with it. I can't imagine doing without it. My kids must have cement poo because I could never get away with just dunking.

 

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can someone explain longies to a newbie?  Also do they have to be wool?

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Originally Posted by sunanthem View PostI am curious about wool shorties and longies.. do you just put a prefold in there? What's the deal? And you have to wash them all special too.


Longies are pants that are used as a diaper cover (over a prefold, flat, fitted.. any diaper that requires a cover). They are usually made of wool or fleece. Both materials are moisture-resistant, and wool absorbs the moisture as well. Wool longies (or shorties or soakers) need to be lanolized. Lanolin then reacts with the urine to create a sort of soap. I never have stanky wool. I just let it air dry in between uses (or it getting damp). And I wash when they get dirty - either dirt or poo. You do need to wash knit covers by hand in cool water and lay flat to dry. I have some interlock wool that I just put right into the washer on cold and hang to dry - with no shrinking or felting. Fleece should be washed in between uses, and I have heard using a fabric softener on them will help with their moisture-resistant qualities.

post #49 of 129

I second Tank's question.  Can someone explain what longies are and how they're used for us newbies? . . . and in case people didn't see Tank's question because it was at the bottom of a page, do they have to be wool?

post #50 of 129

halfbakedcake - all we had were prefolds. From birth until just before he turned 2 when we switched to underwear.

 

akayerich - thanks for the links. I have looked & looked & looked at second hand stores over the past couple years & not been able to find ANY wool sweaters. Lots of polyester blends but real wool is apparently incredibly hard to come by around here.

 

 

post #51 of 129

My favorites:

 

birth - 5mo: kissaluv sz 0 and green mountain prefolds w/ thirsties covers or wool.  once we needed more at night, we used happy hempies then.  still were changing overnights.

5mo-15mo: variety of fitteds and prefolds w/ thirsties covers or wool for day, bum genius 3.0's at night when we no longer needed to change overnight.  bububebe, thirsties, GMD prefolds & workhorse fitteds (my new fave), Mutts...

15mo-18mo: GMD workhorse w/ thirsties or wool, BG 3.0 at night.

18mo+: got sick of fitteds' 2-step process, switched to all pockets - Fuzzibunz perfect fit during the day, BG 3.0 at night.  Had my BG converted to snaps.

 

I'm hoping to PL before we need another solution!

 

For baby #2 I will probably do KL0s + thirsties and wool at first, maybe some GMD workhorse in between (cotton was better for us w/ leaks), and finish w/ FB and BG pockets at the end again.  The non-cotton is nicer when their poop gets too solid and sticky!

post #52 of 129
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halfbakedcake - all we had were prefolds. From birth until just before he turned 2 when we switched to underwear.

 

akayerich - thanks for the links. I have looked & looked & looked at second hand stores over the past couple years & not been able to find ANY wool sweaters. Lots of polyester blends but real wool is apparently incredibly hard to come by around here.

 

 


Try the resweater blog/shop - she has great wool stuff for cheap:

 

http://www.artfire.com/users/resweater

post #53 of 129
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Originally Posted by Hykue View Post

I second Tank's question.  Can someone explain what longies are and how they're used for us newbies? . . . and in case people didn't see Tank's question because it was at the bottom of a page, do they have to be wool?



Longies are just pants knitted or crocheted (or felted and sewn, I guess) in a wool or wool blend.  Should be no less than 70% wool, and can't be "superwash" wool.   You use them over fitted or prefold diapers (diapers that need a cover) as they are water resistant and naturally anti-microbial.  You only need wash them every few weeks or if they get poo on them (pee is ok - just let it dry out between changes).

 

To help w/ their water repellant-ness, you have to lanolize them (replace natural oils in wool) every few weeks (I always combined w/ washing).  You can google that for instructions, but it's very easy - just use the lansinoh you have on hand for sore nipples.

post #54 of 129

longies and soakers are pretty easy to make with felted sweaters. also lots of patterns out there to knit or crochet your own. I'm planning to make some wool leggings for DD (who is currently 22m) for springtime playing-- she is about 90-95% using the potty but for the ocassional misses... but also just for playing outside in the damp spring weather! And thinking while I'm at it I'll probably make a few longies/wraps/soakers whatever strikes my fancy in smaller sizes.

 

I did dry pail, no sprayer or anything. Throw in some baking soda or washing soda to keep smells down, white vinegar in the rinse cycle. With DS I used the Imse Vimse flushable liners (they are great- you can wash and reuse over and over for pee, but just dump and flush for poo). With DD we started EC at 2m, and she almost never pooped in a diaper after that, so I never bothered with liners or anything for her.

post #55 of 129
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I second Tank's question.  Can someone explain what longies are and how they're used for us newbies? . . . and in case people didn't see Tank's question because it was at the bottom of a page, do they have to be wool?

 

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Longies are pants that are used as a diaper cover (over a prefold, flat, fitted.. any diaper that requires a cover). They are usually made of wool or fleece. Both materials are moisture-resistant, and wool absorbs the moisture as well. Wool longies (or shorties or soakers) need to be lanolized. Lanolin then reacts with the urine to create a sort of soap. I never have stanky wool. I just let it air dry in between uses (or it getting damp). And I wash when they get dirty - either dirt or poo. You do need to wash knit covers by hand in cool water and lay flat to dry. I have some interlock wool that I just put right into the washer on cold and hang to dry - with no shrinking or felting. Fleece should be washed in between uses, and I have heard using a fabric softener on them will help with their moisture-resistant qualities.



 

post #56 of 129

Omg, thank you for explaining! I love to craft with wool, so I think I will get into making longies and shorties... lol. yeah, too fun!

post #57 of 129

 

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Originally Posted by lifeguard View Post

akayerich - thanks for the links. I have looked & looked & looked at second hand stores over the past couple years & not been able to find ANY wool sweaters. Lots of polyester blends but real wool is apparently incredibly hard to come by around here.



That Born To Love pattern is what we used, and we got a bag full of 100% wool sweaters for $2-$5 each at Value Village in TO. If you ever make the five hour trip west, we went to the VV on Bloor West near Lansdowne.

post #58 of 129

Sigh, I'm on the fence about this.  I'm sure this thread is a good place to get a push in the right direction. ;)

 

We CD'ed DD for about 8 months.  Eventually we switched to sposies when my MIL became our daytime caregiver and she didn't want to deal with the cloth.

 

I never minded the laundry - actually I far preferred it to big stinky trash bags - but really the sposies worked so much better.  I tried a number of different cloth options and unfortunately the sposies just ruled them all in terms of comfort for baby (feeling dry, not leaving marks on the skin, and not heating up too much - we used PUL covers and really if you stuck your finger in the baby's diaper it was always way too warm in there).   Also we had leaks with all the CDs we tried - it got somewhat better over time but honestly I think I just got used to dealing with the occasional leak.  But the sposies never leaked.  Like, ever.  There was a tendency to be rashier in cloth as well I think, though it wasn't a huge difference.

 

I really can't stand the environmental impact of the sposies though.  I get a little sick every time I take a bag of dirty sposies out the door.  But I also have a hard time with the idea that I should just let baby be uncomfortable so I can save the planet.

 

I am toying with the idea of buying some newborn prefolds and trying them out, maybe coverless most of the time?  We never did try prefolds - I wanted the stay-dry surface for the comfort factor so most of the diapers I tried had synthetic inners.  I no longer think that's a good idea because, combined with the PUL outer, I think it contributed to the overheating issue.  Also I hear prefolds are better at containing leaks than the more 'designer' diapers (I would probably still do PUL covers when out of the house).

 

I dunno.  I think I'm done trying out different kinds of diapers though.  If I do the prefold thing it will be my last hurrah for diaper experimentation. 

post #59 of 129
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Originally Posted by mambera View Post

Sigh, I'm on the fence about this.  I'm sure this thread is a good place to get a push in the right direction. ;)

 

We CD'ed DD for about 8 months.  Eventually we switched to sposies when my MIL became our daytime caregiver and she didn't want to deal with the cloth.

 

I never minded the laundry - actually I far preferred it to big stinky trash bags - but really the sposies worked so much better.  I tried a number of different cloth options and unfortunately the sposies just ruled them all in terms of comfort for baby (feeling dry, not leaving marks on the skin, and not heating up too much - we used PUL covers and really if you stuck your finger in the baby's diaper it was always way too warm in there).   Also we had leaks with all the CDs we tried - it got somewhat better over time but honestly I think I just got used to dealing with the occasional leak.  But the sposies never leaked.  Like, ever.  There was a tendency to be rashier in cloth as well I think, though it wasn't a huge difference.

 

I really can't stand the environmental impact of the sposies though.  I get a little sick every time I take a bag of dirty sposies out the door.  But I also have a hard time with the idea that I should just let baby be uncomfortable so I can save the planet.

 

I am toying with the idea of buying some newborn prefolds and trying them out, maybe coverless most of the time?  We never did try prefolds - I wanted the stay-dry surface for the comfort factor so most of the diapers I tried had synthetic inners.  I no longer think that's a good idea because, combined with the PUL outer, I think it contributed to the overheating issue.  Also I hear prefolds are better at containing leaks than the more 'designer' diapers (I would probably still do PUL covers when out of the house).

 

I dunno.  I think I'm done trying out different kinds of diapers though.  If I do the prefold thing it will be my last hurrah for diaper experimentation. 


I can completely understand your feelings on this. I'm terrified of forking out a ton of money for cloth diapers and then having a kid with a permenantly rashy bum, and having to switch to disposable.

I'm wondering if i'll maybe do some of both-cloth at home, sposies while out...I don't know.

 

Any other thoughts on this?
 

 

post #60 of 129
Thread Starter 

PUL doesn't breathe, so I would assume that's why baby's bum got so hot. You may have much better luck with a natural material - like a prefold, or even a fitted. And wool is a wonderful cover for that purpose as well. It breathes, so baby doesn't get too hot - or, strangely enough, too cold. Wool is also WONDERFUL at preventing leaks. It can hold soemthing like 30% of its weight in moisture. You can use a piece of fleece as a stay dry inner - just lay it inside the diaper. You may have better luck when it comes to comfort with the prefolds as well, as there's no elastic to irritate baby. Also, some materials (and detergents) just don't work for some babies.

 

I think, for most, cloth diaper can be a trial and error sort of thing. I know I started out with pockets, went to fitteds with wool and now am back to loving the pockets on my almost 2 year old. And I have changed detergents many times as well.

 

HTH!

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