where do you get sodium ascorbate?

[nukuspot]

We just went through a pertussis scare (DD does not have it, the PCR test from the hospital just came back negative and her cough is getting better not worse after 2 weeks) but it really scared me for awhile.  DH and I are still coughing.  It was just a horrible flu but it made me think as a mom of an unvaxxed kid in a community where pertussis is a real threat...Next time it could be pertussis and I want to be ready with SA in the house.

But I've never seen it?  Is it a pill?  A powder?  What brands make it?  Can I get it at super supplements or mail order?  How much do I give?  Is it dosed by age or weight?

Thanks in advance for your help!

[Emmeline II]

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NutriBiotic, Sodium Ascorbate Crystalline Powder, 16 oz (454 g) - iHerb.com

[sleeveless]

What is sodium ascorbate? How does it work? What else besides lessening the severity of pertussis can it be used for? TIA

[miriam]

Sodium Ascorbate is vitamin C in a base of sodium.  It is not as acid as ascorbic acid which can damage your teeth if you are not careful.  This is the way Dr. Linus Pauling took his vitamin C.

www.bronsonvitamins.com

1-800-235-3200

items number 50A and 50B, $22.98, $49.98, respectively. 

I have done business with this company for over 40 years.  They are excellent to deal with.  

[onetrumpeter]

This is what I've got in my cabinet, as we're not vax'd here.  I've used it minimally for a cold once and thought it was likely effective.  It reminds me of baking soda, honestly, in that I dissolve it in water and the water tastes a bit salty.  I've never hit bowel tolerance with it.  If I understand correctly, you're supposed to give just under the amount to get to BT for someone dealing w/ pertussis.

Originally Posted by Emmeline II 

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[Lovemy3girls]

I would love to have some of this around the house. We've been dealing with a nasty bug in my family this past week too - lots of coughing too. What exactly is "bowel tolerance"? Does that mean you take as much as you can handle until you know?

[mattemma04]

I used to get NOW brand SA from Vitaglo. I don't like vitaglo due to missing items/over charge,but the NOW SA  is good.

[onetrumpeter]

there's some reason in the back of my head that SA is to be used pretty judiciously; I'm mostly saving it for the possiblility of pertussis.  have to check it's shelf date, I guess, lol.  but I can't remember why that'd be true.  And I have used it for something for myself once and it seemed sort of effective.

yes, that's my understanding of bowel tolerance.  I've never "known" so I guess I never took more than enough, but not sure I took enough, either, if that makes sense.

lastly, IIRC I went w/ the Nutribiotic brand b/c it was the only one mentioning being from non-GMO corn.

I've got acerola berry powder that is a whole foods sort of form of vit C, I think.  always feel a bit clueless w/ vitamins, like I'm rather haphazardly taking them.  it's just hard for me to keep it all straight. 

 

Originally Posted by Lovemy3girls 

I would love to have some of this around the house. We've been dealing with a nasty bug in my family this past week too - lots of coughing too. What exactly is "bowel tolerance"? Does that mean you take as much as you can handle until you know?

[Otto]

Originally Posted by sleeveless 

How does it work?

An excellent question.

[mama1803]

Originally Posted by mattemma04 

I used to get NOW brand SA from Vitaglo. I don't like vitaglo due to missing items/over charge,but the NOW SA  is good.

We used to use the NOW brand and loved it till we found out it was made from GMO corn.

[mama1803]

Originally Posted by sleeveless 

What is sodium ascorbate? How does it work? What else besides lessening the severity of pertussis can it be used for? TIA

We use it at the first sign of illness--colds, flu, coughing, sore throat,  etc.  Vitamin C is also a natural anti-histimine so it works great for respitory allergy flare-ups.

[Emmeline II]

Originally Posted by mama1803 

We use it at the first sign of illness--colds, flu, coughing, sore throat,  etc.  Vitamin C is also a natural anti-histimine so it works great for respitory allergy flare-ups.

[miriam]

Originally Posted by Otto 

An excellent question.

Do you know how it works?

[onetrumpeter]

I'm not certain!  I just have read it enough times and enough places that I felt better stocking it.  My really shaky understanding is that the troubles w/ pertussis are caused by a toxin created by the bacteria in the lungs and supposedly vit C, especially in a buffered form like SA (?) can help the body deal with the toxin.    would love to hear others' thoughts!

 

Originally Posted by miriam 

Do you know how it works?

[Otto]

Originally Posted by onetrumpeter 

I'm not certain!  I just have read it enough times and enough places that I felt better stocking it.  My really shaky understanding is that the troubles w/ pertussis are caused by a toxin created by the bacteria in the lungs and supposedly vit C, especially in a buffered form like SA (?) can help the body deal with the toxin.    would love to hear others' thoughts!

The published evidence base comes down to some equivocal studies from the 1930s--Otani, Ormerod, and Gairdner looked at it (the only link I have handy is Gairdner, but you may be able to turn up the others). As I recall, there were a couple of negative results in the '40s, and by the 1950s it seems to faded to a few non-English articles that I haven't seen. You're basically looking at gauging the persuasiveness of the anecdotal evidence.

[miriam]

Linus Pauling, twice a Nobel Prize winning scientist on his own, did some research on ascorbic acid.  That is hardly anecdotal. 

[Otto]

Originally Posted by miriam 

Linus Pauling, twice a Nobel Prize winning scientist on his own, did some research on ascorbic acid.  That is hardly anecdotal. 

And what was his pertussis research? It's not even indexed in How to Live Longer and Feel Better.

[joanna0707]

For anyone interested in learning more about Vit C I highly recommend this thread

www.mothering.com/community/forum/thread/353318/sodium-ascorbate  (you need to paste the link, for some strange reason I can't copy and paste on MDC)

[miriam]

Linus Pauling's research involved the cold virus in particular and to some extent cancer.  

In general, his research suggested that ascorbic acid would improve the immune system, which would help the body fight off infections of all kinds, bacterial and viral, including then, pertussis bordetella.  You may consider this a stretch, but I would prefer giving my child oral supplements of vitamin C over an injection of neurologically toxic pertussis toxin coupled with diphtheria and tetanus anyday.