I want to repeat that I never said that skin to skin contact and all that wonderful stuff was somehow bad, in fact that would be awesome if it could be done more often (which is what I said originally as well). Reducing trauma for both mother and baby is amazing, let's do more of that. ... but this won't be possible in emergencies, which was my point. This is a technique designed to cater to a market of 99% elective, non-emergency, not necessary cesareans. I'm not looking to "punish women to prove a point" (seriously??!), I'd be the last person in the room saying, "No I think the mom actually SHOULDN'T touch her baby for the next 10 hours. That would be best for everyone... evil laugh!". What I'm talking about is on a much larger scale of simply not making elective, dangerous, life threatening surgery glamorous. Please note the key word "elective" in this. Remember, as I said, I am a mom who had a cesarean. Having more time and contact (read: ANY time or contact) with my son while he was still alive would have literally made the difference in the severity and depth of my grief to this day, but that is an entirely different world than what they're talking about up there.
For whatever dumb reason, they decided at that hospital that I didn't have that option. Was it true? Heck no. It was simply bad policy: their policy was to never, ever, ever deliver a breech vaginally. Was it based on facts and life saving research? Nope. Does that matter? Unfortunately not. By law at that time, a labouring woman was "not of their right mind" and they could overrule my decisions, my choices, and my rights to body integrity with a sweep of the hand. Which brings me to my next point...
There isn't "always a choice"... in theory or in practice. I didn't have one. I was forced against my will. Lots of women are. Sometimes it's not as obvious as my case is/was, but being forced by way of lies, manipulation, coercion, blackmail, threat of legal action, threat of CPS or lack of support all count as losing your choice. Before I had my experience I also thought it was as easy as simply saying "no", and then I was knocked unconscious while begging for a vaginal birth and realized it's not always so black and white. :( Check out some of the stories coming out of Florida, they're ATROCIOUS!! Women jailed and their other children taken away by CPS because they refused an unnecessary cesarean when faced with threats and lies. It's horrific.
And no, other poster whose name I've forgotten who asked if I missed their post, I didn't - I just think you've misunderstood what "emergency" means in the context that I'm using it. And in this context it means you don't have the luxury of taking 15+ extra minutes, therefore these kinds of "natural cesareans" or "woman centered cesareans" (you're not the only one who bristles at that term) would be a life threatening waste of precious, precious moments.
Also, and I'm not trying to be a prat, but simply CYAing:
"Elective Cesarean" :
, "Caesarean delivery on maternal request (CDMR), is medically unnecessary caesarean section, where the conduct of a childbirth via a caesarean section (CS, or c-section) is requested by the pregnant patient." (emphasis mine)
, "...After all, the word "elective" simply means there is no medical justification" (emphasis mine)
This is the primary definition for the term, which is the context in which I was using it.