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post #21 of 31
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Originally Posted by LacieD View Post

I'm gearing up to start my GBS elimination regimen on Saturday (32 weeks), and was wondering if anyone else is doing or planning on doing the same?  

 

Here's what I've got lined up: 

 

Supplements - 

Vit. C with bioflavonoids - 500mg 2x/day

Cranberry extract pills

Garlic pills - 1000mg 2x/day

Acidophilus - 4 billion cells 2x/day

Vitamin D - 2000 IU daily (have been doing this since start of 2nd tri)

Echinacea - won't start this until 1-2 weeks before test, so 34-35 weeks

 

Other stuff - 

Colloidal Silver - hold 3 tsp. in mouth for a few minutes before swallowing, 1x/day

Tea tree oil tampons - 4 hours/day for the week leading up to the test

 

I'm also researching grapefruit seed extract - wondering if the capsules are as effective as the tincture.  

 

If anyone else is doing this, what are you doing?  

 


The bolded is what my MW had me take for the 2 weeks prior to having the testing done...I only did this with my 3rd pregnancy, but have never tested positive for GBS.  I will probably do the same regimen again this time.  I am all ready taking Vit D, 10,000-15,000 IU's daily and Vitamin C, 4,000-5,000mg daily plus a bunch of other supplements that have been helpful for different things.

 

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Edited by maotmsmi - 5/21/11 at 10:05am
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Originally Posted by lovebeingamomma View Post

but getting it doesn't automatically mean harm to the baby.
 

It's the number one cause of life-threatening infections in newborns, and kills 2000 babies per year.

 

It is possible that mother can be GBP+ and not pass it on to her baby.  But if she does, the results are really bad.

 

http://www.childbirth.org/articles/GBS.html
 

 

post #24 of 31

you can believe what you want everyone has to do their own research.  see I can quote websites in my favor too: http://www.lifes-little-blessings.com/group_b_strep_and_screening.htm.  So how do people come to a good decision when there are different numbers posted everywhere?  A lot more research then just looking on one website.   
 

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It's the number one cause of life-threatening infections in newborns, and kills 2000 babies per year.

 

It is possible that mother can be GBP+ and not pass it on to her baby.  But if she does, the results are really bad.

 

http://www.childbirth.org/articles/GBS.html
 

 



 


Edited by lovebeingamomma - 3/13/11 at 7:03am
post #25 of 31

 

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Originally Posted by lovebeingamomma View Post

you can believe what you want everyone has to do their own research.  see I can quote websites in my favor too: http://www.lifes-little-blessings.com/group_b_strep_and_screening.htm.  So how do people come to a good decision when there are different numbers posted everywhere?  A lot more research then just looking on one website.   

You have to look critically, and realize that not all webpages are legit sources.  The one you posted is someone's personal blog, and what she posted are opinions and not facts.  

 

If you want to risk having a GBP baby, that's your right, but I really think you need to go into it knowing the actual facts, and no, garlic won't help.

 

post #26 of 31

I would encourage everyone to take a deep breath and respond respectfully to each other.  I believe the OP was asking *if* anyone else was doing a regimen, and if so, what exactly they are doing, not necessarily debating the merits of each facet of her regimen.  Thank you!  thumb.gif

post #27 of 31
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Originally Posted by MsFortune View Post

 

You have to look critically, and realize that not all webpages are legit sources.  The one you posted is someone's personal blog, and what she posted are opinions and not facts.  

 

If you want to risk having a GBP baby, that's your right, but I really think you need to go into it knowing the actual facts, and no, garlic won't help.

 

Given that the screening isn't perfect - i.e. you can screen negative on the day of the swab, but since GBS can start to thrive at any point after that (or babies can pick it up from a source other than mom), one could argue that everyone should have antibiotics in labour.  That is not how it's approached, though, because you have to balance risks and benefits, at the population level (if you're a health care provider) or individually (when making decisions for yourself).

 

I always refer to the CDC site on this issue, because although it is written kind of alarmingly, you can't argue with numbers.  And they do say right on there (http://www.cdc.gov/groupbstrep/about/newborns-pregnant.html) that "only 4-6% of babies with group B strep infections die."  That doesn't mean we shouldn't worry about it, and it also doesn't include babies who have long-term health issues as a result of infection, or the stress on babies and parents even when baby makes it through without residual issues.  But the number the PP cited wasn't wrong.

 

Also from the CDC site "A pregnant woman who tests positive for group B strep and gets antibiotics during labor has only a 1 in 4,000 chance of delivering a baby with group B strep disease, compared to a 1 in 200 chance if she does not get antibiotics during labor."  Many will focus on the reduction in risk by using antibiotics; others will see that the risk of infection is still pretty low (0.5%) even in GBS positive mothers.  To each their own, IMHO.  Everyone makes their decisions and lives with risks...and not just on this issue, there are lots of things other pregnant moms decide that I might not be comfortable with personally, and vice versa. 

 

Edited to add:  The number cited in that childbirth.org site about 2000 deaths per year would correspond to a total of over 33,000 cases per year (assuming 6% mortality).  The Centre for Disease control says the average number of newborn (under 1 week) infections per year is 1200, which would correspond with an estimated 72 deaths per year (http://www.cdc.gov/groupbstrep/about/newborns-pregnant.html).  I'm not sure what numbers that other site is quoting, perhaps all infections over the first year of life (or all infections recorded in the general population)?  It's not really accurate to lump them all together, because antibiotics received in labour are not going to prevent a GBS infection in a baby a week or 3 months or a year after the birth.  They don't provide a reference so it's hard to fact check their numbers.


Edited by clutterbug - 3/13/11 at 3:43pm
post #28 of 31
Thread Starter 

Yes, please don't start a flame war in here - I'm already in the middle of one on a mainstream board because I'm daring to ingest metal and shove antiseptics up my tootie, which cannot possibly be safe, despite my research to the contrary.  

 

I started all the supplements last night, or at least tried to - note to self, when taking 4 large pills, leave the expensive probiotic for last in case of puking.  

 

post #29 of 31
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Originally Posted by LacieD View Post

Yes, please don't start a flame war in here -

 

My thoughts exactly!   In the end, every woman has to make the decisions that are right for *her* and for *her family*.  I encourage people to seek out high-quality factual information, and make the best choice they can based on both the available information AND their own feelings/intuition.  Don't just look at the statistics, but dig deeper to find out what those numbers 'mean' in terms of relative risk. Explore your personal risk factors, history, and comfort levels. Take a look at the mainstream sources like the CDC, SOGC, ACOG  Take a look at broader sources like the WHO; the works of respected authors like Sarah Buckley & Henci Goer; the Cochrane Collaboration; Midwifery Today Summer 2010 issue.  Make the best choice you can, for the circumstances you're in, and accept that each choice comes with its own potential outcomes (both good & bad).
 

 

post #30 of 31
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Originally Posted by Fluga View Post

They dont test for this at all here in Finland.  They will consider the antibiotics only if you have risk factors.


And what are the risk factors?  I've never tested positive for this before, but had a up/uc my last two births so had no tests at all then.  I'm feeling a little more paranoid this time around for some reason and would love more info, thanks!
 

 

post #31 of 31

water broken for a long time (18 hours plus?), if you have a fever, if you're giving birth before 37 weeks, if you've had a previous baby that's caught GBS. 
 

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Originally Posted by love4acr View Post




And what are the risk factors?  I've never tested positive for this before, but had a up/uc my last two births so had no tests at all then.  I'm feeling a little more paranoid this time around for some reason and would love more info, thanks!
 

 



 

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