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post #81 of 311

A whole foods approach is excellent at this time.  We are using lots of supplemental measures as well.  Again though, if any significant fallout lands here, kelp tablets won't provide enough iodine to block out radioactive iodine in the environment.  No amount of whole foods nourishment can compete with the completely unnatural form of radioactivity that is released from nuclear fission.  Our planet did not evolve along those lines.  

 

Thank you for the jet stream link!

post #82 of 311

On the note of whole foods/healthy eating to prepare for/counteract radiation (or, for that matter, EMFs...)  what are you making for dinner tonight?  I'm thinking of cabbage salad, artichokes, trying to figure out how to lace food with kelp powder :).  Would love to hear your ideas/recipes! 

post #83 of 311
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No amount of whole foods nourishment can compete with the completely unnatural form of radioactivity that is released from nuclear fission.  Our planet did not evolve along those lines.  


The Oklo reactor seems to have been plenty natural.

post #84 of 311
So I'm wondering (Pat... whistling.gif), are we going to have to worry about contaminated seaweed and fish if this gets worse? I mean, I know it's always a concern but will it be more so? Anything high in iodine will be prime for contamination, right? Or am I thinking about this all wrong? Will we need to be careful about where we get out bones for bone broth, especially due to the long half-life of strontium-90, which has a propensity to get stored in the bones.
post #85 of 311

I dont believe North America will get it as bad as surrounding Chernobyl. It has to cross an entire ocean before it gets here, and getting more and more dilute with time. The distance does provide some buffer. If you were close, like in Japan for instance, you would take large amounts of potassium iodide. I am not comfortable doing this as its just a guessing game right now and you could do more harm than good.

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A whole foods approach is excellent at this time.  We are using lots of supplemental measures as well.  Again though, if any significant fallout lands here, kelp tablets won't provide enough iodine to block out radioactive iodine in the environment.  No amount of whole foods nourishment can compete with the completely unnatural form of radioactivity that is released from nuclear fission.  Our planet did not evolve along those lines.  

 

Thank you for the jet stream link!



 

post #86 of 311

Adequate Calcium levels keep about 80% (iirc) of the strontium-90 from being absorbed into bone tissue. [Farmer's could feed calcium to their animals, for instance.]  But, animal (& human) milk is the highest source of radioactivity exposure. So, yes, potentially, bones from an area highly contaminated by radioactive fallout could be an issue if making bone broth. We choose local, 100% grass-fed beef bones and organic chicken bones. [There are alternative sources of minerals, of course.]

 

For perspective: "In the 1986 Chernobyl disaster, radioactive material from a raging fire spread across much of Europe and was detected on the clothing of Swedish workers, which first alerted the world to the disaster that Soviet authorities tried to keep quiet.

That calamity, the world's worst nuclear disaster, resulted in the deaths of 32 workers who tried to put out the fire at the Ukrainian plant. A 20-year study released last year by the U.N. Scientific Committee on the Effects of Atomic Radiation found that there were about 6,000 cases of thyroid cancer in children from Ukraine and Belarus who drank milk with elevated levels of radioactive iodine from cows in the area. Treated correctly, thyroid cancer has a survival rate above 90 percent.

Radiation levels were not high enough to harm others in the former Soviet Union and Europe who lived in the area where the cesium-137, iodine-131 and other radioactive materials drifted for hundreds of miles, the study found."


http://www.mercurynews.com/science/ci_17613753?source=most_emailed&nclick_check=1

Japan's Radiation Exposure: How Serious Is It?: http://ecocentric.blogs.time.com/2011/03/12/japans-radiation-exposure-how-serious-is-it/

"National Radiation Map, depicting environmental radiation levels across the USA, updated in real time every minute. This is the first web site where the average citizen (or anyone in the world) can see what radiation levels are anywhere in the USA at any time." http://www.radiationnetwork.com/

 

 

"Organic" sea vegetables have restrictions on proximity to pollutants such as industrial or metropolitan run off.  Additionally, one can purchase "heavy metal tested" kelp, for instance. We buy it at Vitacost.com

 

Fish bones, in sardines for instance, might be an interesting thing to examine.  I do not know if larger fish or fattier fish would absorb more radioactivity.

 

 

Pat

 

 

post #87 of 311
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The Oklo reactor seems to have been plenty natural.


Yes, 2 billion years ago. 

post #88 of 311
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I dont believe North America will get it as bad as surrounding Chernobyl. It has to cross an entire ocean before it gets here, and getting more and more dilute with time. The distance does provide some buffer. If you were close, like in Japan for instance, you would take large amounts of potassium iodide. I am not comfortable doing this as its just a guessing game right now and you could do more harm than good.



 



Yes, as distance from radiation decreases its impact exponentially, living within 20 miles of a damaged nuclear plant (we live within 20 miles of TWO nuclear power plants in Charlotte, NC), is WAY different than living  5133 miles from Japan, in California.

 

"DISTANCE

Radiation exposure decreases rapidly as the distance between the worker and the radiation source increases. Maximizing distance represents one the simplest and most effective methods for reducing radiation exposure to workers. For example, distance can be maximized by using long handled tools to keep radioactive materials well away from the body and storing radioactive materials as far from workers as possible.

 

The decrease in exposure from a point source of x or gamma radiation can be calculated by using the inverse square law. This law states that the amount of radiation at a given distance from a point source varies inversely with the square of the distance. For example, doubling the distance from a radiation source will reduce the dose to one-fourth of its original value, and increasing the distance by a factor of three will reduce the dose to one-ninth of its original value. For example, if the dose rate at one foot from a source is 20 mR/hr, then the dose rate at two feet (twice the distance) will be 5 mR/hr."

 

Time and shielding are huge variables too. That is why people within the 20 miles of the nuclear plants are being advised to spend less time outside and to remain inside currently.

 

 

 

Pat

 

post #89 of 311

I am absolutely NOT advocating the use of a full dose of prophylactic KI.  But I seem to be missing something here, because in the Iodine thread here on MDC and in Brownstein's research and according to all my health care people, the amount we are now taking is completely safe to take on a daily basis and is probably very close to what we would need anyway to be fully nutritionally sufficient in iodine.  It is the same amount (13mg for an adult) that Japanese women consume daily.  

post #90 of 311

Thank you for the link, WuWei!!

 

"National Radiation Map, depicting environmental radiation levels across the USA, updated in real time every minute. This is the first web site where the average citizen (or anyone in the world) can see what radiation levels are anywhere in the USA at any time." http://www.radiationnetwork.com/

 

I had no idea we could track the levels. I will be monitoring that closely over the next week.

post #91 of 311
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I am absolutely NOT advocating the use of a full dose of prophylactic KI.  But I seem to be missing something here, because in the Iodine thread here on MDC and in Brownstein's research and according to all my health care people, the amount we are now taking is completely safe to take on a daily basis and is probably very close to what we would need anyway to be fully nutritionally sufficient in iodine.  It is the same amount (13mg for an adult) that Japanese women consume daily.  


I'm finding, by the way, that iodine supplementation in the amount you mentioned, seems to be linked to much, much lower rates of breast cancer. I think Japanese have some of the lowest occurrences of breast cancer b/c of their iodine intake.

post #92 of 311
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Originally Posted by joybird View Post

I am absolutely NOT advocating the use of a full dose of prophylactic KI.  But I seem to be missing something here, because in the Iodine thread here on MDC and in Brownstein's research and according to all my health care people, the amount we are now taking is completely safe to take on a daily basis and is probably very close to what we would need anyway to be fully nutritionally sufficient in iodine.  It is the same amount (13mg for an adult) that Japanese women consume daily.  


This is exactly what I was thinking.

 

post #93 of 311

I have been taking Iodoral daily for many months now and it was time to re-stock. My usual source was sold out, so I ordered some last night, from this place:

 

http://www.aviva.ca/shop/products.asp?itemid=3148&catid=195

 

I got the shipping notice this morning. I think they are a Canadian company, but also ship to the US. 

post #94 of 311
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Yes, 2 billion years ago.


And it ran for hundreds of thousands of years, originating right after (in relative terms) the oxygenation of surface water, which allowed solubilization of U-235 in the first place.

 

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No amount of whole foods nourishment can compete with the completely unnatural form of radioactivity that is released from nuclear fission. Our planet did not evolve along those lines.

 

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 Yes, Iodoral is good - it' s basically Lugol's in tablet form. And you shouldn't need a script for it.

You can order it online if your HFS is out. They still had some at Amazon yesterday but it's going fast.


 

 


Thank you! I'm not sure I feel the need to take it based on this incident (nuclear fallout in Japan), but it coincides with my reading and beginning research for removing toxins and heavy metals from my body anyway.

 

I'm more of a food is medicine girl, but I am not opposed to supplements. I'm just wondering if I can get more iodine through my diet before going to the supplement form.

 

I hope the naturally high iodine in the Japanese diet helps protect them.

 

post #96 of 311

I don't understand why some are rushing to head to the East Coast - if it makes it to the West Coast, it's not so unrealistic to think it will just continue to travel east, is it?  And like one of the PP's said, you're just going to return to a contaminated environment anyway.

 

That's not to say I'm not concerned, because I am, but I can't imagine picking up and visiting the East Coast while watching and waiting for the unknown to possibly happen.  I need to protect my family and will, and they absolutely come first, but my community may need me as well.

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post #98 of 311
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They've abandoned the plant.  Everyone is fleeing.

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/japan/8383978/Japan-earthquake-residents-flee-as-quake-fears-spread.html

 

 The Fukushima 50 are heros.

post #99 of 311

They briefly evacuated the plant, but the 50 have returned.  Residents are fleeing.  Careful reading; that article says they left the 50 there, so it's not a total evacuation. The Fukushima 50 are most definitely heroes.  Most people are getting out of dodge with good reason.

post #100 of 311

...nevermind, it really does look as if it's abandoned.  The previous article said they returned after being evacuated briefly...so now I'm just trying to find the latest news...

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