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post #21 of 45

Hi,

 

I saw your post from last year and like your approach as you seem to have a situation similar to mine. My husband has Aspergers but fairly mild (I suppose) similar to your husbands. Because of this, I can't identify with those who have a much worse situation and would rather remain positive and try to work on our relationship difficulties cause by his Aspergers.

 

I have a 3 year old and 5 year old (both very happy-go-lucky, playful, social, and loving so I am not sure if they have Aspergers at this stage although my daughter is very energetic and often overbearing (sometimes relentless).

 

Our main arguments at this stage are often about me feeling that my husband lacks common sense safety skills with our children. He doesn't like to have calm discussion to agree on safety methods so often the most mundane issues become big screaming matches where I am trying to explain every small detail (which I feel should be obvious but isn't to him) and he just wants to walk away.

 

I feel if we can have better conversations and I could feel heard, then our relationship would be more "normal."

 

Can you offer any advice?

 

Thanks in advance!

post #22 of 45
Thread Starter 

I have the same issue with my husband. I don't know what to do about it other than just keep a close eye on him when he is with the kids. One day I came out to see him putting our four-year-old daughter in the car in the front seat - no car seat - saying that he was only going to go right down the road. I about freaked out.

 

I found that if I'm nonconfrontational about it it goes over better. That's the only advice I can give. I even asked my husband now what he thought and what advice he could give and he said "none." :-)
 

post #23 of 45

Hello:  I am new here and older than most of you, but wanted to share my experience with being married for 40 years to a man I never could understand.  To make it quick, our youngest son (30) has diagnosed Asperger's.  He was born too young to benefit from any special training, as Aspergers wasn't even known about when he was in school -- he just had such a difficult time.  Anyway, over all these years, I have never been able to understand my husband's inability to emotionally connect with me (or with anybody).  It sounds like I am dense not to think about him having Aspergers, too, but like I said, this diagnosis wasn't even around until recent years.  So...I have literally spent 40 years trying to understand why my extremely sweet and kind husband was so cold emotionally.  He is different from most of these posts I have read, as I am honest in saying that in 40 years, he really has never even shown extreme anger (despite my trying to get him to react in desperate ways) :-)  I was always busy working as a nurse and just found emotional connections with my friends, etc.  However, I retired recently and have had so much time to think about what is wrong with our lack of an emotional (and intimate) connection and it is only recently that I realize that he is definitely Aspergers, too (as was his father, I think).  I don't have any advice for all of you, but to say that if you really feel shut out emotionally, you should seek some help with your marriage.  I am sad that we never did this (however, recently while at a counselor's office with our son, the counselor responded to me when I said "I think my husband has it, too" -- she said, "yes...I agree with you."  However, at this stage in our life, it is just not feasible that we could seek or afford the amount of therapy which would help our connection.  And, even though I do not really mean to be negative...if you are young and feeling emotionally shut out...it will probably not get better if your spouse really does have Asperger's.  Despite all the good traits my spouse has (and he really does have so many), his lacking the ability to share his feelings in any way has left a longing in me which will never be filled.  Just wishing all of you a more fulfilling life -- do anything you can to fixl the void the connection with your spouse now. 

post #24 of 45
I have been married for 34 years to my husband who I suspect has Aspergers. I have just recently came to this conclusion. I have known for years that something is just not normal about him. He as many men with Aspergers has been very successful in his career, very accomplished in his hobby/obsession golf. An outside person looking in would never suspect that anything is wrong with him. He has been successful in his job and sports because he can do very direct communication. What he can't do is carry on just a normal conversation. He is horrible in social situations, intimacy, empathy, constantly correcting me and others, I could go on and on. Why am I still here? In the beginning I was more than willing to take on the blame for his lack of intimacy, lack of communication, anger at me etc. If I could only do it, whatever that might be, better he wouldn't act the way he does. It took me 20 years to figure out with the help of counseling that it wasn't me who was the problem but him. That nothing I would ever do was enough to fix things because I wasn't the problem to begin with. That was the most freeing revelation I have ever had. It released me from so much pain. I was 20 years into my marriage by the time I figured that out. I did not want to leave my marriage at that point. For me the financial security was more important than the intimacy. I have chosen to be happy with my life and accept the way it is and to look for the good things in my life and dwell on those things not on his many flaws. I know that he is simply incapable of being any different than he is. I actually feel sorry for him, it must be hard going through life always struggling to connect with people. Ironically he is just crazy about dogs. At times I think he loves the dog more than me. He NEVER expresses any emotion about me , but if I go to my Mother's for a week and take the dog with me he will state he misses the dog??? Lol. I know that my husband loves me but is completely incapable of showing it. There were anger issues early on and I finally drew the line in the sand and told him it was unacceptable to treat me that way. He still angers easily but it is no longer directed at me. I am retired now and I fill my life with a beautiful, successful daughter (she has ADD), my mother who I adore. They both provide the emotional intimacy I need. I am very lucky to have a wonderful group of girlfriends (I do not share with them that my husband has Aspergers). my friends and family just all think that my husband is odd and quiet, not very social (that's an understatement). In conclusion, the sad parts are many, I will never have the marriage I so envy of others, it is many times very frustrating and lonely, I basically live figuratively "by myself", I have a roomate. I have chosen to stay, therefore I have chosen to make the best of my situation and be happy with the many blessings that I do have. Not always easy but I do. If as it sounds many of you want to stay in your marriage, you will have to accept that you will never have the marriage you dreamed of, he won't change, your life will be devoid of intimacy. You will have to choose to be happy and accept all that comes with living with someone who has Aspergers and not mourn all that you don't have. I would like to say that had I realized the problem 5 years into my marriage as opposed to 20 years I would have left him, but would I have really? Best advice is to dwell on all the good things in your life not on what you don't have. Easier said than done but it CAN be done.
post #25 of 45
Thread Starter 

It depends a lot on your personality, too. Some partners just really need intimacy and closeness. Others are okay or more comfortable without it. My husband has AS and this has been the most wonderful 12 years with him. It's like you describe: more like having a roommate than a lover, but it works great for us. I could never have a man who was super intimate. My ex was like that and he ended up cheating on me a lot. A LOT. All. The. Time. Of course, not all men who are intimate are like that, but it just turned me off of guys with that kind of personality. I left him after 5 years together off and on and after that, I was just done with guys like him. My husband fits in my new comfort level. We're really happy. Having kids made a lot of it better for me because I get my touch and closeness from them. Also, having the diagnosis was wonderful. I used to think that my husband was just sort of a jerk. Now we know what's going on with him.

 

It would be wonderful if all partners could know beforehand that their lover had AS. It could potentially prevent a lot of marriage problems and possible divorce.
 

post #26 of 45

My own father didn't get his aspergers dx until he was in his 40's and my mom was in her 50's.  He had CBT and has made ENORMOUS strides in his ability to read and connect with people.  Unfortunately my mother died in 2005 and at that time i don't think she felt "enough" headway had been made, but his progress has continued and i really wish/hope he will find someone to be with now because he has made so many discoveries about himself in the last decade which would help in personal relationships.

 

It is never "too late" to begin therapies to help with aspergers, if that is what the individual wants.  My own partner has no formal dx and i feel is borderline, with many aspie traits which affect his everyday life, but not EVERY "typical" sign.  Physically he seems very standoffish and "numb" to touch, but i know, because i touch him anyway, that it his external reactions which vary from the norm, not his internal feelings about it.  He doesn't communicate, with his body language, how he is feeling, but he IS feeling and i can find out how he is feeling if i try.  There are a million ways to communicate, i would urge anyone who wants to seek greater intimacy in their relationship to get help with it and keep trying.  You may need to take the road less travelled to get somewhere, it might take longer and feel harder, but anything is possible, if you both want it.

post #27 of 45
I know this thread is old but I am at my wits end and I need help I am currently pregnant about to give birth soon the baby's father has aspergers and I just need someone to help me understand what is going on and when should I say enough is enough he an I aren't together and getting any info from his family the only answer I get is be paticent my friends think I should just walk away and so do some times i am just really confused and to people who think I should have had a kid with him I didn't know until after we broke up that he had this condition
post #28 of 45
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Originally Posted by Gabby8812 View Post

I know this thread is old but I am at my wits end and I need help I am currently pregnant about to give birth soon the baby's father has aspergers and I just need someone to help me understand what is going on and when should I say enough is enough he an I aren't together and getting any info from his family the only answer I get is be paticent my friends think I should just walk away and so do some times i am just really confused and to people who think I should have had a kid with him I didn't know until after we broke up that he had this condition

 

 

Welcome.gifhi and welcome to mothering. I have a teenage daughter with Asperger's, and I'm pretty sure my husband would be diagnosed as well if he had an evaluation.

 

I'm having trouble reading your post because of the lack of punctuation. I know some people can read things like this, but I can't. Mothering is a really supportive community and there are a lot of mommas here with experience with all sorts of things, but I think you might get more helpful responses if your posts are easier to read and include things like periods, commas, and capitals.

 

The general thing I can say about being in a relationship with someone with Asperger's is that they sometimes need to be taught things that come naturally to other people. My DH is very dedicated to our relationship, but learning to communicate with me about emotional things took real work for him. We did that work through marriage counseling. I don't think that having Asperger's or ADD or anything else is an excuse in a relationship to not be a real partner. Part of whether or not a relationship can work depends on whether the other person is willing to do the work necessary, and part of it is being patient with them while they do that work. I don't think being patient means giving the other person a license to not deal with their own issues and grow into what the relationship requires.

 

Good luck.


Edited by Linda on the move - 9/15/12 at 11:24am
post #29 of 45
Thread Starter 

Being with someone with Asperger's is different from being with someone neurotypical, so it really depends on you and whether this is a type of relationship you want to pursue. If you don't want to live this way, that's okay, but if you want to give it a try and work hard at it, then it can be a wonderful experience.

 

All aspies (people with Asperger) are different, but there are some things that are fairly typical:

-general inability to feel empathy or exhibit emotion

-general desire to not be touched or offer loving touch in return

-general inability to handle stressful or even just out-of-the-ordinary situations

-general inability to deal with others' emotional needs

 

Keep in mind that it's possible that a relationship may mean (depending on his type) that he will never be romantic or loving towards you or that he may never seem interested in you or his child/children.

 

Aspies can be super sweet in their own way. If you choose to pursue a relationship with an aspie, it's important to be very, very patient and realize that the issues he is dealing with are not something that he can just fix. It is an actual difference in his brain from normal people. Couples' therapy sessions may not help at all and he's never going to change. Not completely. There are some things that he can try to work at, but he will never be able to offer you everything you may need emotionally.

 

It doesn't mean he's a bad person or a bad father, just that he's a different kind of lover or a different kind of father. Just because he doesn't show interest or gets frustrated does not necessarily mean that he is not interested in being a part of your lives.

 

First, talk to him and give him space and ask him what he wants. Does he want to be with you? Does he want to be involved as a father? It is difficult for aspies to be emotionally attached to people. In general, they don't understand social cues or social situations the same way others do. It isn't their fault. You can't get mad about it. It's just how they are. If you are a very emotional person, it may make it incredibly difficult to talk to him. Aspies usually do not understand emotion. For example, he may see that you are upset, but may not understand why or what to do about it or how to react. He may see that you are sad, but not understand that you need to be comforted. The same is true with children. He may see his child cry, but not be able to go to the child and hold and comfort them.

 

It's totally okay that he is this way. He can't help it. If he doesn't want to be part of your lives, you can explain to your child when they are older how he is and why and it can be a totally okay thing. It can be really hard on an aspie if their partner isn't understanding of their inability to empathize. My husband gets SO much negativity from his ex (the mother of his first child) because she feels that he doesn't care about his daughter because he can't express emotion. It's horrible for him how she accuses him of being a terrible person and not caring. It's not true. He does care, he just has no ability to show it the way a normal person would.

 

It's hard being married to an aspie, but after 12 years, I'm used to it. I used to do a lot of crying, but we have a wonderful relationship now that I know why he is the way he is. It's difficult in some ways and so wonderful in others. Have you tried looking on YouTube for videos about Asperger Syndrome? There is a lot of wonderful info out there.
 

post #30 of 45
Thread Starter 

Also, what problems are you having specifically?

post #31 of 45

jnpsmommy- Please avoid personal attacks.  If you have an issue with another poster, take it to PM. 


Edited by QueenOfTheMeadow - 9/15/12 at 10:36am
post #32 of 45

This is directed at several of you: Just because you know one person with Asperger's does not mean that you know all about Asperger's.  I know a lot of people on the spectrum and we are all as different as night and day.  I have undiagnosed AS, and I LOVE being touched.  I am starved for it.  Because of drama in my life, I don't have any close relationships.  I am withering away wanting to be touched.  But I have high standards for myself and others.  I need people that thrive in a relationship of high intensity.  I'm very proud and feel that I've never met my equal.  Everyone around me will be tested mercilessly and many will fail.  But I WANT someone to pass the test. 

post #33 of 45
Thread Starter 

Of course, E! :) Just like anyone, all aspies are different, it's just that touch is a common issue. I hope it didn't seem as if we were saying that all aspies are like this.
 

post #34 of 45
My question is to the moms married 10+ years to men with Aspergers:

Is it worth the heartache, loneliness and carrying the full load during the hard times?
Does it get easier?
How come when I know in my head why my husband does the things he does I still get mad and hurt?

My husband was diagnosed with Aspergers 2 years ago. We have an 8 month old baby who was pre-planned and the pregnancy was very high risk. For the last year and a half he has gotten progressively more angry and blames me for every hard thing and change in our life. He has completely withdrawn emotionally. I have to carry the financial, domestic and relationship load 100% by myself. We have decided to take a 6 month break so that I can decide if I have the strength, skills and emotional capacity to be his partner and so that he can cool down and decide if he wants to stay together.

I am devastated and need real life help from women who have faced this situation. Although others may offer ideas and hope, I am really just looking for advice from the women who have lived this life already and who can help me make an informed decision.

Because it is harder than anyone who has not lived it will ever really know.

Please, help.
post #35 of 45
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Dice2mad View Post

My question is to the moms married 10+ years to men with Aspergers:
Is it worth the heartache, loneliness and carrying the full load during the hard times?
Does it get easier?
How come when I know in my head why my husband does the things he does I still get mad and hurt?
My husband was diagnosed with Aspergers 2 years ago. We have an 8 month old baby who was pre-planned and the pregnancy was very high risk. For the last year and a half he has gotten progressively more angry and blames me for every hard thing and change in our life. He has completely withdrawn emotionally. I have to carry the financial, domestic and relationship load 100% by myself. We have decided to take a 6 month break so that I can decide if I have the strength, skills and emotional capacity to be his partner and so that he can cool down and decide if he wants to stay together.
I am devastated and need real life help from women who have faced this situation. Although others may offer ideas and hope, I am really just looking for advice from the women who have lived this life already and who can help me make an informed decision.
Because it is harder than anyone who has not lived it will ever really know.
Please, help.

 

Oh, goodness, yes! DH and I just celebrated our 10th anniversary last month and we have lived together for 13 years.

 

I don't think everyone is the same, but for us, it is so, so, SO worth it. My husband is my soulmate. I just don't think I could ever be happy with someone else. He's perfect for me. It took me a long time to figure it out, but I understand him now and he understands me. It has gotten easier for us. Like breathing. There is a flow I think we both have learned and everything works so well for us now.

 

You'll still feel mad and hurt when he does some things, but that's a normal part of relationships. You'll ALWAYS feel mad and hurt when you have a disagreement with your partner, no matter who it is. The good thing about Asperger is you know why it is happening and while you'll still get angry, I at least feel as though it makes it a lot easier to make up afterward once you get past the knee-jerk anger stage.

 

I know exactly how we (I) made it work, but I have no idea if this will work in every situation or even if it has anything to do with being with an Aspie partner. All I know is that I don't cry anymore. I never feel sad. I'm always happy, my husband is always happy, and we almost never fight at all now. The negativity is all gone and I feel like we could never be apart. I'm thrilled to be with him. This is all I know, so it's the only advice I can give.

 

First, I had to figure out a way to separate our domestic duties into something we could both handle. My husband was too overwhelmed trying to be a dad. He just can't do it. He doesn't like children and he's no good at it. This stressed him out and made him yell all the time. So we began a traditional, old-fashioned marriage. I know it's not right for everyone, but it works for us. My husband is the breadwinner. He has the job. He is the one who works. He makes the money, pays the bills and handles the finances. That's it. He doesn't do housework and he doesn't look after the children.

 

I quit working to take care of the kids full-time. I'm always here. He never has the kids. I also do pretty much all of the housework, though DH sometimes helps with things like carrying the laundry basket down the stairs so I don't trip with the baby, etc. He also mows the lawn and does any other job that would typically be considered "the man's" job.

 

This created a problem for us in one way: money. I was freaked out by finances. I had always handled my own finances and we had always both worked and finances were the #1 reason for upset in our marriage. I would get mad at DH's purchases. I would get so pissed at the way he would have four or five overdrafts for something as stupid as a pack of gum or a gallon of milk. I would be simply outraged by it.

 

I came to the conclusion that I either needed to just not care or we were going to get a divorce. I didn't want a divorce, so I stopped caring. I don't mean that in a negative way like I stopped caring about DH or our marriage. I mean that I stopped caring about money. It was SO HARD. It took almost a year before I was completely and entirely uncaring about money. At this point, if my husband came home and told me he had spent everything we had on a brand new car and then wrecked it on the way home with no insurance, I'd just shrug and say "meh." I totally do. Not. Care. And that has been what has saved our marriage. Whatever it is we would fight about, I do. Not. Care. He makes the money, he spends it how he wants to. I opened up a little craft business on the side and I take the money I earn on Etsy and use it to buy things for the kids.

 

Let me put it in perspective. We are poor. Really poor. Poor like you cannot believe. We have been homeless (before we had kids). We lived in a tent for a year. We rented a one-room efficiency when I had DD where the living room was the kitchen was the bedroom. Right now we are living in an abandoned house (which is actually not at all what it sounds like - it's a very, very nice house and we happen to have the approval of the previous owners who just abandoned it hoping the bank would take over though they never did). Still, we can't pay rent. We have to have welfare to survive and I could not care less. We are happy. My children are well cared for, my marriage is fantastic, we don't fight and I'm happy. Truly happy. I'm so happy every day. No amount of money is worth that.

 

Some women say they "have" to work, but you really don't. If you can find ways to just let go of the things you think are important that really are not, you'll find you're just happy all the time. Maybe it will only work for me in my particular marriage, but it might work for someone else, too.

 

Can you look at the things that really upset you and let them go? Whatever it is that gets you feeling tense like money or working or living in a certain situation and find a way to let it go? Just give it up? Yeah, you might have to be dirt-poor but is your marriage worth it? Is it worth it to just be happy? Giving up a second job and living like that seems unthinkable at first, but happiness is worth everything to me.

post #36 of 45

Hello AmberSkyFire, 

 

I've been with my AS husband (Dx'd 2 yrs ago) for 10+ years and have a 7yo  who was Dx'd with Aspergers about a year and a half ago. 

 

I am feeling the same exact thing you are tonight and came onto this thread to not feel so lonely. Because it has been a very lonely ride. 

 

I've come to understand that it does not get easier. It is a lot of work. That this is how it will be with him. I understand what you mean about your spouse's anger and verbal abuse. We went through a DV incident when our son was just 2 months old. I didn't want to risk him raising our child in any capacity w/o me around - so I have stayed to protect my son as well as wanting to give this marriage my all. My 1 request that could not be broken  in order for me to stay was that he get therapy once a week. He has complied and is on medication to help him "stop to think." In addition to his Aspergers he also has ODD which is something that I have researched and come to find usually goes hand in hand with Asperger Syndrome. He has done very well on this medication and we have had a pretty non-confrontational last 2 years since he began to take it. I don't attribute the medication for helping this out 100% but it has been a great factor. 

 

I've 100% taken over the finances as he has proven to not be able to - even though he is so very successful in the business world and at one point was going to be a financial advisor! SMH. Early on, I made quite the sacrifice by taking on his debt to try and maneuver some financial burdens. After the birth of my son, I was Dx with Autoimmune diseases, later I had to quit working - we then made a decision for -me- to file bankruptcy since he was the breadwinner of the family. It is quite the sore spot for me as I took very good care of my finances prior to meeting him. He made so many promises of this or that coming in financially over the years that only put us in worse debt because those promises never came through or didn't come through when he said they would. So, even though it was a huge stress for me to take on the finances - it was the best thing for us/me. We, at this point, are pretty stable after almost 2 years.  

 

Even though he fully understands my disability I still do majority of the domestic chores. And yes, as you do - 100% of the relationship load. I've figured out over the years how to speak to him in a certain way that he will understand - because there is a certain pattern that has to be followed in order for someone with Aspergers to understand and for me to gain a little bit of empathy - as much as one with AS can give. I've had to do all the research and foot work to help our son (and him as we didn't know until about 2 years ago that my husband has AS). I of course involve my husband in decision makings and it feels like I'm reporting to the CEO. There is no philosophical conversations and no bouncing off of ideas or more in depth conversations about our son or anything in general. It's reporting of facts and making the best decisions from there. 

 

I've gone about my life since marrying him trying to figure out everything through research, trial and error, for all 3 of us. It's tiring, lonely, frustrating but I am determined to try and provide the best environment for my son. I still get mad even though I fully understand WHY he does what he does - because it seems so unfair to get the short end of the stick most of the time. The rewards don't coincide with the work put in - and no amount of understanding will make the human need to feel supported and loved go away in the long run.  His measure of success in life is how much he makes and how well we're doing financially. I understand his logic - I wish he'd fully understand mine.

 

If you're still pondering what to do - it means you still have hope. Hope is a must to get through to acceptance (either way you decide to go) and acceptance is peace. It's a calmer dialog within yourself when this happens, though it doesn't mean never getting mad or not feeling hurt. Surround yourself with people who can support the interests that aren't common b/t the two of you and do for your self at least once a week, even if it means giving yourself the "day off". It's so easy to forget to do this even though we're self aware - but it's justified, needed, and empowering. 

 

I wish you and your little one all the best. 

post #37 of 45

Sorry, I meant to reply to Dice2Mad above. 

post #38 of 45
Dear AmberSkyFire and Life As It Is 456,

You both sound like incredibly remarkable and strong people. You have each offered me a lot to think about. Thank you very, very much for such thoughtful advice. I will be thinking about it a great deal in the next while.

I am definitely trying to tweeze out the pieces that I can drop because he and our family are more important to me. But I am so incredibly hurt and angry that the dramatic change over the last years has led to so much loneliness. I am also scared of living with a man who often is 'not around', even if his body is in the room (does that make sense?). It is so strange to not 'feel' him emotionally. It has gotten harder and harder to only talk about the things he is interested in, and then have no reciprocity in the conversations. And so many, many more things. It is a very different type of relationship than I have ever experienced.

That said, even with all the difficulties, I still love him with all my heart. I really do hope things will work, but I also know he is just as frustrated with me and he has to want to make things work too.

We both really need time and help and hope.

Thank you again. So much.
post #39 of 45
Thread Starter 

And remember to always think of the positive things about being with him. It helps me. I list the reasons why my husband is so great so I don't focus on only the negatives.

 

-he would never lie to me

-he would never cheat on me (he's terrified of people, LOL!)

-he works hard and makes a living to support us

-he would never leave me because of an argument

-he doesn't take things personally so he is easy to make up with

-he loves me more than anything else in the world

 

And I list the little ways that he's able to show me that he loves me. Today, he brought home cheesecake from the grocery store!

post #40 of 45
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Originally Posted by amberskyfire View Post

 

Oh, goodness, yes! DH and I just celebrated our 10th anniversary last month and we have lived together for 13 years.

 

I don't think everyone is the same, but for us, it is so, so, SO worth it. My husband is my soulmate. I just don't think I could ever be happy with someone else. He's perfect for me. It took me a long time to figure it out, but I understand him now and he understands me. It has gotten easier for us. Like breathing. There is a flow I think we both have learned and everything works so well for us now.

 

You'll still feel mad and hurt when he does some things, but that's a normal part of relationships. You'll ALWAYS feel mad and hurt when you have a disagreement with your partner, no matter who it is. The good thing about Asperger is you know why it is happening and while you'll still get angry, I at least feel as though it makes it a lot easier to make up afterward once you get past the knee-jerk anger stage.

 

I know exactly how we (I) made it work, but I have no idea if this will work in every situation or even if it has anything to do with being with an Aspie partner. All I know is that I don't cry anymore. I never feel sad. I'm always happy, my husband is always happy, and we almost never fight at all now. The negativity is all gone and I feel like we could never be apart. I'm thrilled to be with him. This is all I know, so it's the only advice I can give.

 

First, I had to figure out a way to separate our domestic duties into something we could both handle. My husband was too overwhelmed trying to be a dad. He just can't do it. He doesn't like children and he's no good at it. This stressed him out and made him yell all the time. So we began a traditional, old-fashioned marriage. I know it's not right for everyone, but it works for us. My husband is the breadwinner. He has the job. He is the one who works. He makes the money, pays the bills and handles the finances. That's it. He doesn't do housework and he doesn't look after the children.

 

I quit working to take care of the kids full-time. I'm always here. He never has the kids. I also do pretty much all of the housework, though DH sometimes helps with things like carrying the laundry basket down the stairs so I don't trip with the baby, etc. He also mows the lawn and does any other job that would typically be considered "the man's" job.

 

This created a problem for us in one way: money. I was freaked out by finances. I had always handled my own finances and we had always both worked and finances were the #1 reason for upset in our marriage. I would get mad at DH's purchases. I would get so pissed at the way he would have four or five overdrafts for something as stupid as a pack of gum or a gallon of milk. I would be simply outraged by it.

 

I came to the conclusion that I either needed to just not care or we were going to get a divorce. I didn't want a divorce, so I stopped caring. I don't mean that in a negative way like I stopped caring about DH or our marriage. I mean that I stopped caring about money. It was SO HARD. It took almost a year before I was completely and entirely uncaring about money. At this point, if my husband came home and told me he had spent everything we had on a brand new car and then wrecked it on the way home with no insurance, I'd just shrug and say "meh." I totally do. Not. Care. And that has been what has saved our marriage. Whatever it is we would fight about, I do. Not. Care. He makes the money, he spends it how he wants to. I opened up a little craft business on the side and I take the money I earn on Etsy and use it to buy things for the kids.

 

Let me put it in perspective. We are poor. Really poor. Poor like you cannot believe. We have been homeless (before we had kids). We lived in a tent for a year. We rented a one-room efficiency when I had DD where the living room was the kitchen was the bedroom. Right now we are living in an abandoned house (which is actually not at all what it sounds like - it's a very, very nice house and we happen to have the approval of the previous owners who just abandoned it hoping the bank would take over though they never did). Still, we can't pay rent. We have to have welfare to survive and I could not care less. We are happy. My children are well cared for, my marriage is fantastic, we don't fight and I'm happy. Truly happy. I'm so happy every day. No amount of money is worth that.

 

Some women say they "have" to work, but you really don't. If you can find ways to just let go of the things you think are important that really are not, you'll find you're just happy all the time. Maybe it will only work for me in my particular marriage, but it might work for someone else, too.

 

Can you look at the things that really upset you and let them go? Whatever it is that gets you feeling tense like money or working or living in a certain situation and find a way to let it go? Just give it up? Yeah, you might have to be dirt-poor but is your marriage worth it? Is it worth it to just be happy? Giving up a second job and living like that seems unthinkable at first, but happiness is worth everything to me.

 

I read this, and it reminded me *so* much of DF and I. So much so I asked him to read it (hope you don't mind. Sorry), because it seems like at least most of your setup would work perfectly for us. He read it, and while some of it he said upset him (the part that parenting is especially stressful, he said while that's true, it makes him feel like a bad dad. I told him that it doesn't mean he's a bad dad, that there are some aspects of parenting that come easier for him, and some stuff that comes easier to me, and some stuff that's harder for me, and some stuff that's harder for him, and most of that compliments each other for us), that he thinks that that arrangement would probably be a really good idea for us, too.

 

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Originally Posted by amberskyfire View Post

And remember to always think of the positive things about being with him. It helps me. I list the reasons why my husband is so great so I don't focus on only the negatives.

 

-he would never lie to me

-he would never cheat on me (he's terrified of people, LOL!)

-he works hard and makes a living to support us

-he would never leave me because of an argument

-he doesn't take things personally so he is easy to make up with

-he loves me more than anything else in the world

 

And I list the little ways that he's able to show me that he loves me. Today, he brought home cheesecake from the grocery store!

 

I do that quite often. He lets me sleep extra, or does a load of laundry if he knows I'm not feeling well. heartbeat.gif

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