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post #21 of 30

Someone on the April DDC had said the one their midwife offered had aluminum in it. That's why I figured they all did. So, yeah, I would definitely check on what ingredients are in there at the very least. I have heard that the amount of Vitamin K given whether orally or through the shot is in excess of what baby needs typically and could be damaging for that reason. So, I'd definitely recommend at least looking into that more. 

 

Oh, and don't just take their word for it as the woman in the April DDC's midwife said it was based in something else and she only found out it was in aluminum when she asked to look at it and read the label. 

post #22 of 30

Just an FYI that vitamin K supplementation is actually blocked by the placenta, so regardless of how much you boost up your baby is not getting an extra dose that way. They DO get a hefty dose from your own body fluids (which become super colonized prior to labour) and your colostrum, but it can take quite some time to colonize (10-14 days, I believe? Don't quote me on that). It's a one in a million chance that you'll have a baby with that problem, tbh, and it does suck... however, you can always get it done in the days following birth if you don't want to do it right away and muck about with bonding.

 

We've never done it. May do it this time several days later, not sure yet. The procedure here has changed quite a bit from what it was some years back and it's much less invasive. If we do choose to do it, I'd do shot over oral: oral is a MASSIVE dose and if I'm giving my kid something unnecessary I'd rather give them a small dose of something unnecessary, rather than 10x the dose... IMHO there's probably a reason babies are born with a low reserve, and the placenta blocks it, even considering those one in a million cases.

post #23 of 30

I think some interventions are a good idea. This is one of them, IMHO. Esp if I deliver early!

post #24 of 30
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Originally Posted by littleteapot View Post

IMHO there's probably a reason babies are born with a low reserve, and the placenta blocks it, even considering those one in a million cases.



Good to know. I'd have to agree with the above.

 

I'm supplementing my Vit. K for me - since it is supposed to help with clotting and preventing hemmorage but also I figure that it'll be in my system to feed it to baby in the right amounts through my breastmilk. 

post #25 of 30

As I understand it, the need for vitamin K started because of babies being fed formula instead of breastfeeding. I do plan to breastfeed my baby, but need to do more research before I make any final decisions about the shot.

post #26 of 30
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I did some more research, and now I'm inclined to go with this product:

http://neo-ceuticals.co.uk/neokayCaps.html

 

The shot does seem like an excessive dose (and painful).

 

A few large studies from Denmark have shown that 2mg orally at birth followed by 1mg weekly for a few months provides as much effectiveness as the shot. For example:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12892158

 

Now I just need to figure out where I can get some. Anyone know?

 



we got a prescription from the pediatrician after the birth and filled it at the hospital pharmacy. i think i was told any compounding pharmacy could do it. i know there's some brand online that people order as well.

but again, this discussion is reminding me that i have to look into these things. i had always thought the oral dose was wither lower or the same. ugh! gotta get moving

post #27 of 30

I always thought oral dose was lower as well, but I brought it up at my midwife appointment yesterday and the dose (here, anyway) in the shot is 1 mg; the oral dose is 3 doses of 2 mg.  My first baby had the one oral dose and never got any more; I'm not 100% sure whether the second guy even got the first dose (I don't remember, and don't know exactly where I put my copy of my birth record!).  There is no oral formulation approved for use in Canada, so they get the same thing in the shot,and my midwife says it is bitter tasting...she said there is a German product that is intended for oral use and when she used that, babies took it happily, but not so much the Canadian-approved stuff.

 

So knowing all that, I am kind of back at the drawing board this time around.  We might do the shot - less of a megadose, over fast, and no worries about shoving something in baby's mouth that will cause any oral aversions.  But the idea of a shot so soon after birth doesn't appeal to me a whole lot, either. 

post #28 of 30

One thing to keep in mind is that a big part of the oral dose isn't absorbed.. I'm guessing that they set the dosage so that the effective dose (i.e. what makes it to the bloodstream) of oral vs. injected is roughly equivalent.

post #29 of 30

I went the oral route with my first.  He had no aversion to the taste.  I gave him 3 drops every other day until the bottle was empty.  Maybe 3 months or so. It was amazingly hard to remember to do! I literally had to buy a dry erase calendar simply to keep track of the vit k doses!! 

I think I am going to check with the midwife as to the allum. levels in her shot and prob just go with that.  I am so scattered brain right now and have so much on my plate. I'm going for easy.  I feel crazy for saying it but its honest.  I also really trust my midwife.  She is a little more medical based on things than I am but is def not one for un-needed procedures etc.  She is constantly updating herself and staff with the most up do date information from a natural and medical stand point.

post #30 of 30
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Good to know. I'd have to agree with the above.

 

I'm supplementing my Vit. K for me - since it is supposed to help with clotting and preventing hemmorage but also I figure that it'll be in my system to feed it to baby in the right amounts through my breastmilk. 



That's my approach too.  I'm boosting my Vit K rich foods now since I hemmoraged a lot last time.  Definately not doing shot or oral for baby.

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