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Bitter Sushi Ladies, April 2011

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heartbeat.gif Welcome to the April Thread heartbeat.gif

 

 

This is a thread for those who have been TTC for a long time, whether 6 months, 12 months, or more. At this point many of us are at or past 1 or 2 years, many have had losses, many are dealing with various forms of infertility, and some are just in a waiting period until they can TTC again.

 

The name? Well, all things considered we tend to be a little bitter sometimes. So read with care. And due to everything, our emotions run a little raw like sushi. Too many cycles of BFN and CD1 sushi & sake to console ourselves. This TTC business is something that seems to "just happen" for so many...but we just can't seem to get it right. So this is where we can be together, share and express anything.

 

 

Current Bitter Sushi Ladies

 

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33, and DH (36), TTC (his #2, my #1) off-and-on since November 2006

~AA~

Trying with DH since Feb 2008, on Clomid

AGreenMum10

Trying since Nov 2009 , 1 ectopic - down a tube (may 2010), 2 Losses (Aug 2010 & Jan 2011)

amo4piano

TTC #1 since Jan 2010, one m/c at 10.5 weeks

Attached2Elijah

Hoping for #3 for 4 years and 3 months with 6 months hard TTC (charting, etc) after previous unexplained secondary infertility.BFPChart2.gif

blueyezz4

TTC #1 (technically #4-long story) since 2006; Moving on to our first FET after 5 failed IUI's and 1 IVF

borobaby

TTC #2 for 7 months

collieflower

TTC #2 for 2 years, with 4 m/c (and another before DC#1)

enigo

Has one beautiful son, trying to conceive after three losses

grahnola mum

TTC #2 since December 2008, with 7 losses, 8 weeks pg and hoping that it will stick.

InWaiting

TTC #1 since 04/2009 with one ectopic (11/09), one missed miscarriage (11/10),

Hypothyroidism and compound heterozygous MTHFR mutation. Current regimen is 5 mg of Femara on CD 3-7.

indianagirl

36, TTC for a little over two years onto IUI and clomid

jenger

Mama to DD (4/07) TTC #2 since August 2009. BFPChart2.gif

jennabella

TTC #2 since July 2009, with a loss in February 2010 and a loss in July 2010

justhinkn

TTC #2 since summer 2009, just starting IF testing with DH

keria

TTC #1 since October 2008.

kgulbransen

TTC since April 2010, 5 IUIs & 1 at home with frozen, all using HCG trigger; 5 at home insems with fresh donor, latest one Jan (try#11). Short luteal phase, otherwise all clear, have tried Femara and Clomid with no success. On to IVF in April??

kinza

TTC #1 since November 2008, with PCOS and Male Factor BFPChart2.gif

kparker

TTC #1 since 9/08 with male factor, IUI #3 with donor sperm April 2011

Kyamo

TTC#1 since Jan 2010 with PCOS BFPChart2.gif

laggie

TTC #1 since Fall 2009 with male factor issues

lapis

TTC #1 since August 2008. Living in a new country with a calmer lifestyle and trying not to get sucked into the TTC vacuum

lilmom

35, ttc #2 for a year and a half with pcos and rarely ovulating

littlest birds

TTC for 16+ months after VR BFPChart2.gif

luminesce

TTC #2 since 4/2010 after 3 years of unexplained infertility with #1

Milk8shake

Jayde (27) - TTC #1 since 4/09. Battling endo, uterine abnormality and recurrent pregnancy loss. Hoping for a take-home baby in 2011.

MommyMatsumoto

TTC #2 since 3/2010 BFPChart2.gif

monkeyscience

27, TTC #1 with PCOS since 6/10 

mrs.nap515

TTC #1 with DH. Hormone deficiencies and hypothalmic amenorrhea.

Objet_Trouve

TTC #1 since Jan 2010 with PCOS BFPChart2.gif

Rachel88

Rachel (29) and DH (30) TTC #1 since March 2010. One loss Aug. 2010 at 12 weeks.

rcr

TTC #2 since 12/2007, one loss in September 2010, one failed IVF in February 2011 BFPChart2.gif

silverbird

ttc #1 since June 2010, after a two year delay for illness.  Waiting for IVF. 

SimplyRochelle

TTC #1 on and off since 5/2007, m/c at 12 weeks 9/08.

Smilesarefree

36 year old mom of one wonderful dd trying for another since April 2010

Sweet.Bee

TTC #2 with late ovulation and an overworked husband BFPChart2.gif

sweetest77

38 y/o, TTC #3 since May 09, after VR

tara2

TTC #4 (#2 for DH) since October 2009, DH with low count

TTC3Years

TTC #1 for since December of ‘06

ZanneMom

TTC#2 for more than 12 months

 

 

hug2.gif In our thoughts, on hold, and/or waiting hug2.gif

 

BelovedK

Mama of 2 (15yo DS, 10yo DD). Wife to one incredible man. Residing in Central VA. TTC someone new since November 2008 with 2 m/c (Feb/09 and Jul/09). An avid bellydancer and firedancer, who works part time doing hair, and who is giving her loving energy nowadays more toward her DH than TTC

mi_dawn

lost baby William (born still 4/09) and two m/c in 09.

 

 

 

dust.gif BSL BFPs!!! Stick little babies, stick, stick, stick... dust.gif

 

lavatea - due 12/2011 stork-suprise.gif

miriam bat avraham - due 12/2011 stork-suprise.gif stork-suprise.gif

MahnaMahna - due 11/2011 stork-suprise.gif

Jane - due 10/3/2011 stork-suprise.gif

Tear78 - due 8/4/2011 stork-girl.gif

Maurine - due 8/2/2011 stork-boy.gif

CLH_X3 - due 7/13/11 stork-suprise.gif

slylives - due 6/2011 stork-suprise.gif

xtara2003x - due 5/5/10 stork-suprise.gif

kalamos23 - due 4/2011 stork-boy.gif

babygrey - due 4/2011 with twins! stork-boy.gif stork-girl.gif

 

 

2whistle.gif Waiting on an update... 2whistle.gif

grapesbunch - due 1/13/11 stork-girl.gif

rachwms - Due 11/10 stork-suprise.gif

 

 

joy.gif BSL BABIES joy.gif

 

jenniferadurham - Ryan born 3/28/11!

Nanette56 - Tristan and Cael born 3/18/11!

finnegansmom - Henry born 2/11!

jessica_s - Asher Kingston 1/20/11 

QBear'sMama - Jack Everett 12/17/10!

BarefootGirl - DS 11/20/10!

kellyttc#1 - Hilary & Charlotte 11/11/10!

YummyYumYumMama - Kieran 10/27/10!

lyndzies - Cadence James 10/15/10!

Carlyle - Maggie 10/9/10!

aidanraynesmom - Sloan Phoenix 9/10!

MaerynPearl - Maeryn Jean 9/27/10!

colorbywords - Emery Oaklynn 8/03/10!

LZP - Anna Veronica 7/18/10!

Pinoikoi - Ursula Marisol 6/23/10!

Lisko15 - Caleb Benjamin 6/24/10!

 

LINK to our graduates thread - Spring 2011 Edition!

 

Please let the threadkeeper know if your info needs to be updated.

 

New ladies are always welcome, but please join with care.

 

Please put all notes for changes or additions to this post in bold! Thank you!!


Edited by Kyamo - 4/26/11 at 4:20am
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Thanks for the new thread.  I've been quiet lately, but I have been reading.  I'm still progressing through a series of testing - some results have been good and others not, but I won't have a clear picture until all testing is complete.   It's a bit of a rollercoaster ride.

 

LessTraveledBy - OPKs don't measure ovulation at all.  They measure the surge of LH (luteinizing hormone) which is meant to precede (and possibly trigger?  I forget...) ovulation.  You can have a + OPK and not actually end up ovulating, so I imagine the reason you are not getting truly positive OPKs has something to do with your LH levels.  But then you do ovulate, as confirmed by temps.  I have no idea if the LH can indicate anything about the actual egg or not.   It sounds like you are using the ones where you have to scrutinize the lines to determine whether you get a positive... if it were me I would try using the digitals for a month to see whether you a positive there, because there is less subjectivity involved and it might give you a clearer picture.  (I partly say this as someone who only uses the Clear Blue Easy digitals because you either get a smiley face or you don't - makes it so easy and I never have to wonder if it's almost positive or not.)  I forget whether you have the RE appt for June?  If that is right, you could mention that you have concerns about not getting a positive OPK and they may be able to test your LH levels.  I don't know for sure, because that is not a test I am having, but they seem to have tests for just about everything...maybe someone else will know if they have one for LH.

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Thanks, Jennabella. Yes, I have an appointment in June but I have already had LH labs done months ago. The result was supposedly ok. I am really having all these "out there" thoughts, grasping at anything, as there is no reason so far, that we can think of. Dh will be tested in a couple of weeks and then we will just have to wait, I suppose.

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I might have had a two year old today if I hadn't miscarried. I really hate april fool's day for this reason. Just a cruel reminder of what I'm still no closer to getting.

 

And most of the ladies I got to know so well during that pregnancy are already pregnant with their second or have another baby already. Just feeling kinda low today. And it's super ugly outside with rain and clouds which never helps. I go straight from lecture to my nanny job where I'll love all over that sweet toddler but it's so bittersweet. 

 

I'm 4dpo today which is just so boring. Not a single thing to obsess about yet.

 

Thanks for letting me mope.

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Still lurking Sheepish.gif *Hugs* for you SimplyRochelle!

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Kyamo - Thanks for the new thread!

 

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I might have had a two year old today if I hadn't miscarried. I really hate april fool's day for this reason. Just a cruel reminder of what I'm still no closer to getting.

 

And most of the ladies I got to know so well during that pregnancy are already pregnant with their second or have another baby already. Just feeling kinda low today. And it's super ugly outside with rain and clouds which never helps. I go straight from lecture to my nanny job where I'll love all over that sweet toddler but it's so bittersweet. 

 

I'm 4dpo today which is just so boring. Not a single thing to obsess about yet.

 

Thanks for letting me mope.


Sorry you are having a crappy day, mope away, that's what we're here for!!!

 

AFM - It's now CD75 and I think that I may be ovulating?????  Some aches in the ovary and cm starting to pick up so maybe, although this is not the first time that I have thought that I was ovulating since af went on a break and so far I have been wrong, but I will assume that I am and take full advantage of it!!!!
 

 

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I finally got to tell my sister I'm sorry for her loss. I decided to leave it at that since I didn't want to risk saying something inappropriate, or even just remind her of our conversation about jealousy and feeling bitter. I'm not the best person to talk to about this with her right now.

I also lost a friend over the circumcision stuff today. She started bullying and using personal attacks against me and I just can't handle it anymore. She started calling me anti-semitic and saying I just wouldn't understand because I'm not Jewish, and that her being jewish is reason enough that it should be legal, and how dare I insinuate that it shouldn't be. She even started attacking my former religious views, which I'm not terribly sensitive about, but the way she did it just killed me (if any of you remember me mentioning it, it was forced on me and abusive in nature, and I followed mostly because I was afraid I would get hurt if I didn't). I wouldn't be so mad, but she wasn't even trying to tell me I was wrong about the science and reason based arguments, she just said I should be ok with it just because her religion requires it. She also got really mad about the links I sent her, even though I said I was unqualified to talk religion with her. Sure enough, I don't really understand the difference between orthodox and reform, and the links I sent her was whichever one she isn't (I'm still really confused about that, and not sure I care anymore, not if she's going to get that angry about it). I shouldn't have been blindsided like I was, I knew she was superior and uncaring about the feelings of others (think I realized that when her and her husband heard I was having problems with my husband and they just laughed and told me I should leave him or scream at him or both and acted like they're a perfect couple because they don't have those problems...they also didn't seem to care when I learned he was having psychological problems that were mostly to blame), I should have expected it. I feel stupid.

So I'm exhausted from staying up all night upset about this, and just really needing to feel like people care about things outside of themselves, placing people above disagreements, religious practices and the need to be right/need to be assumed to be right.
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Objet Trouve, I'm sorry, I hope your day gets better. hug2.gif I have a hard time with the circ stuff too, I ran into a post on here yesterday where a woman was saying she and her husband hope they don't have a boy because they are anti-circ, but they feel it's not optional because of their religion. I managed not to respond but I really, really wanted to just shake her, yk? You aren't stupid, you are standing up for what you believe in and that takes a lot of courage. It sucks to lose a friend, but I could never respect anybody who defends circ, so those friends would drop off my radar anyway.

 

Anyway, sorry ladies, I guess that is way OT. Here's to April showers bringing May BFP's? Or something... April BFP's would be great too, just that I'm on the pill until May 2nd. At least I won't be having any pretend pregnancy symptoms this month!

 

 

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Edited by miriam_bat_avraham - 4/21/13 at 7:13pm
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Kyamo, thanks for the new thread!

 

Rochelle--I'm so sorry.  hug.gif

 

LessTraveledBy:  I am not Catholic, so I don't know the answer to this, and please don't be offended if it's something I shouldn't say.  If sperm is retrieved with a needle from your husband's testicles, would an IUI be possible?  I know you haven't had the semen analysis done yet, but I didn't know if that was an option, if it looks like it would be helpful.  Does the Church object to IUI's, as well as IVF?  When we do our IVF, DH's sperm has to be aspirated, which I didn't even know was a treatment option.  Anyway, I have wondered this a time or two, when reading your posts, and I thought I'd go ahead and ask.  Please don't be upset by my ignorance!

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You guys, I'm so sorry... I haven't been posting as much lately and it didn't occur tO me that duh, it's April now and time for a new thread... So I just disappeared from the March thread and thank you, Kyamo, for taking over! sorry I dropped the ball greensad.gif

I'm going to do some hardcore personals when I get back home (we're away for the weekend at an out of town wedding) and have my computer in front of me because there are some of you who I want to post longer replies to.


Hey, no problem at all.  It was already arranged for me to do April, and there was only one update left over from March, and that was just yesterday.  You have an excellent excuse not to be here much anymore!  winky.gif  

 

Have fun at the wedding!

 

Smiles - hopefully you're right and you are ovulating.  Get busy!

 

Objet - I'm sorry it caused such a rift.  It's amazing how people can still be so strongly pro-circ.  It's not stupid to stand up for your beliefs.  

 

AFM - Day 3 US was Wednesday, everything looks good to go.  I've started the letrozole now, next US is Sunday. fingersx.gif  

 

 

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I guess I feel more stupid for thinking she would be someone who would care enough to dialogue with, or at least be polite and not jump into the personal attacks. I'm used to people coming against me for my beliefs on things, I just didn't expect it from her, and didn't expect her to be so obnoxious about it. And I feel stupid for it because I've actually seen her be flippant and laugh at other people's concerns while acting like hers are the only valid concerns in the world. I just should have expected her to be like this, and I feel stupid for believing she could be better than that right to the very end.

It is better late than never though, it's good that I'm standing up to her now, instead of letting it get really out of hand.
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So today was last day of clomid this cycle, and IUI might be as soon as Monday. Only I just acquired 2 feral kittens and have extra litter to clean /facepalm

 

Can my blurb be edited to say IUI#3 in April? :D

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Originally Posted by Kinza View PostDoes the Church object to IUI's, as well as IVF?


Yes, the short answer is that nothing outside of BD may be done. In other words, Clomid and such are ok, but that's basically it. No problem whatsoever. :) I think it is always nice when people ask, rather than assume.

 

 

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I guess I feel more stupid for thinking she would be someone who would care enough to dialogue with, or at least be polite and not jump into the personal attacks. I'm used to people coming against me for my beliefs on things, I just didn't expect it from her, and didn't expect her to be so obnoxious about it. And I feel stupid for it because I've actually seen her be flippant and laugh at other people's concerns while acting like hers are the only valid concerns in the world. I just should have expected her to be like this, and I feel stupid for believing she could be better than that right to the very end.

 

I am so sorry that all this happened to you. However, I think it is also good to find honesty in a friendship. If a person acts in a not nice way, then I suppose there would have been something going wrong, sooner or later. If not this, then something else. As a religious person, I would not be offended by articles or whatever explaining a different point of view. It seems a bit strange not to just calmly say that she is not able to agree with the articles, or whatever.

 

We just went to a meeting having to do with inner healing. It was really interesting. Many people were there, thinking of things that had taken place in their earliest years. I was thinking, instead, of all the grief I have lived with in the past 4 years. As it is, there is no complete way out. I just have to keep living to see if the situation will ever change. There were a lot of people there from one of the countries from which we could adopt. It was interesting to see all these people, living in this country, and to think our son or daughter could look like them. However, at least at this point dh's gut feeling is that he does not want to adopt from said country, although we are in many ways what they would be looking for. (This is the only country I really think would "want" us, as we fit their requirements well.) So... Whatever happens, I just have to keep waiting and, meanwhile, try to live my life.

 

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So today was last day of clomid this cycle, and IUI might be as soon as Monday. Only I just acquired 2 feral kittens and have extra litter to clean /facepalm

 

Can my blurb be edited to say IUI#3 in April? :D



I skimmed past the part where you asked to have your blurb edited, then my brain told me a few seconds later after I scrolled to the next post, "HEY you are the one who is supposed to do that!".  LOL.   Done!

 

Good luck with your IUI.  I am also heading for IUI#3, probably about a week after yours.  

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I think seeing this thread so much makes me crave sushi! Dh and I have had sushi at least twice in the past month or so... and I had it by myself once, too. This compared to, like... once in the previous 6 months? Also, I have discovered that apparently I *can* eat raw-fish sushi (I had a previous bad experience and usually go for vegetarian or cooked), but that it really does nothing flavor-enhancing for me. Is there enough omega-3 in sushi to justify eating it on that grounds??

 

Anyway, here's to hoping April will be a fertile month for this thread!

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And also... April Fool's baby jokes are just not as funny to me as they might have been before. Luckily, I missed the ultrasound picture one of my dear friend's dh put up on Facebook until this morning, so I was sure it was a joke. But I was still sort of rankled by the "haha, of course this is a joke, we're newlyweds" thing - like it would be totally absurd to be pregnant when you've been married for 3.5 months. Sigh. Must get over my own personal issues! And then, of course, there was my (really) pregnant friend posting about entering her 3rd trimester right below that.

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I might have had a two year old today if I hadn't miscarried. I really hate april fool's day for this reason. Just a cruel reminder of what I'm still no closer to getting.

 

And most of the ladies I got to know so well during that pregnancy are already pregnant with their second or have another baby already. Just feeling kinda low today. And it's super ugly outside with rain and clouds which never helps. I go straight from lecture to my nanny job where I'll love all over that sweet toddler but it's so bittersweet. 

 

I'm 4dpo today which is just so boring. Not a single thing to obsess about yet.

 

Thanks for letting me mope.



Me too. I don't dislike April Fools, I pretty much ignore it. But I am reminded by the littlest thing that I had a baby once (mmph, twice) and now I don't. I see toddlers and quickly do the math in my head for how old mine would be now. Sigh. All we can do is keep moving forward, and keep trying for that successful pregnancy. Hugs! And hey, you're not alone, we haven't all gone on to parenthood.

 

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simplyrochelle - sorry. Hugs to you.

I should be having a baby any day now. My due date was April 11. Aries, like me.
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